IS ARR - A FORGOTTEN HERO???

[MADDY]

Hey guys, lets face facts...
1.ARR hasn't had a hit barring "new" in tamil and "saathiya" in hindi for the past 4 years...
2.his music albums also struggle in popular countdowns like MTV123 and suntv countdown....even albums like boys and swades were never no.1....
3.and into international arena- barring Bombay Dreams' success , he hasn't had anything to write home about...
4.and the most diturbing thing in this slide is the fact that ppl. have slowly started to forget him( i recently came to chennai and was shocked to see my frnds scratching their head hard to remember ARR & his albums)....
5.his frequency of appearnace in mags also dipped quite a bit.....

in this rate i wud have to tell my son that there was a gr8 man called ARR.........Is isai puyal stopped by tsunami of failures??i think it is high time for ARR to hit panic button and start churning out chartbusters.......pls prove me wrong guys......

[Jacky]

"pls prove me wrong guys"

pain undertaken.

1. ARR's AE and Boys sold like hotcakes.
Try searching sify or old tfmpage "AE - Return of the king" and "Boys revived the music industry".

2. if he should give Jatin-lalit stuff to be on MTV no 1 then Yeh tara would sound like Mehndi lagakey Rakhna.

3. Wait for LOTR release then you will know if he gets acclaim or brickbats. Don't prejudge.

4. .......

5. He may not be a hot choice for magazine editors but he's always the first choice for top-notch people like Aamir, subhash ghai, Shekar kapoor, Maniratnam, and Ashutosh Gowriker.

[dinesh2002]

yo man,what jacky is telling is 100% ... same situation here...ARR is time u come back like last time!!

[Movies]

Dude Maddy!

SWADES WAS no 1 on MTV countdown for a couple weeks!

Hit albums in tamil ?, here u go>>> NEW, BOYZ, E20U18 were a hit until the movie bombed!

And no hit in 4 years is an exageration, its like stretching beyond the elastic limit! What do u call Lagaan, for instance it wasnt 4 yrs old! thats just an example!

What I feel is that Rahman is running out of luck choosing successful films, he has a terrible luck at the moment! Most of his films fall flat for no reason of ARR! The movies bomb badly. True rahman once lifted movies purely eith its music, but the movies he chooses now arent movies with commercial music!

Boyz would have hit sky high if it wasnt for Shankars perverted screenplay! E20U18 was terrible... the wait inbetween the songs was too agonizing for the movie to make a mark!


I think Rahman is not balancing his projects!

I indeed long to see rahman rock with meaningful music for period films and so, but at the same time he needs to rock tamil films with his peppy stuff like he did a few years ago! He needs to balance out!

At the moment with the 3 tamil films he has at hand... great oppurtunity for him to shut his detractors mouth like MumbaiRamki! But ofcourse i hope the movies dont bomb!

[MADDY]

thank god there r ppl. who still believe in ARR........i think "Movies" hit the nail on the head......ARR has to balance his movies.......u know he used to give movies like Gentleman,Ratchagan in 90's which had a lot of scope of becoming a super-hit.........but of late look at his movies- swades,kannathil Muthamittal,Bose,Zubeida.......these kinda movies will never do well at the Indian box office for another 100 yrs.......he has work with ppl. like lingusamy,selvaraghavan,bala,cheran- u know just to bring out hit movies........see, he can maintain his class with these ppl. also......so he has to really change his partners- and he is going in the rite direction-s.j.suryah,simbu,gautam menon's assistant.......


Nuthin succeeds like success.......

[Arjuna]

Engal Idhaya Deivam Mannin Mainthan Thenpandi Singam Isai Brahma Puratchi Puyal Mozart of Madras Bharat Ratna Dr ARR will rock the TFM again - wait and see..

[Arjuna]

You shouldn't dream of the impossible
So A R Rahman believes

A R Rahman has a flight to catch to London. But before that he has hazaar
interviews to go
through, innumerable phone calls to

attend to and a long line of people to meet. I watch as the tousle-haired
composer copes
patiently with it all, wait for my chance

and finally manage to pin him down for a quick one-on-one.

Q: So Bombay Dreams will finally come to India late this year. Is this something
you've been
asking for?
A: Yes. We urged the producer to stage it here since the play is about India and
they now plan
to take the show several Asian

countries as well. So we will reach out to a far bigger audience. You want the
world to listen
to your music but you think, they

already have great music, they may not be interested in listening to yours. But
I was lucky
that God howed me the way with

Bombay Dreams. And that they accepted my music.

Q: What other international projects are coming up in 2005 for you?
A: I'm currently composing music with the Finnish folk group Varttina for JRR
Tolkien's theatre
production of Lord of the Rings: The

Musical. We've just completed the basic tunes that make up 40 per cent of the
music. So,
there's loads left to do. It's been a very

refreshing experience, totally different from anything I've done earlier. The
production will
debut on London's West End this year.

And I'm working on my symphony.

Q: You've done a Chinese film, Tian Di Xiong (Warriors of Heaven and Earth),
directed by He
Peng. How difficult was it working in

an alien language?
(smiles) You know something? I love watching Chinese films. After you've done
quite a few films
in regional languages and Hindi

too, you want to broaden your horizons. Please don't misunderstood me, I'm not
saying I've
achieved all there is to here. I just look

on this as taking a step in one more direction, exchanging ideas with new
people. The only
difficulty was learning the language,

but the translator who made me understand the soul of the language solved that
problem.

As for the music, they are out neighbours and there isn't much of a difference
between their
music and ours. Most ofthen they use

Raag Pahari, which is known as Raag Mohanam in Carnatic music. The instruments
they use are
different of course, and I learnt to

play them, so that helped.

Q: Closer home, Swades had great music but the film itself didn't fare too well
at the box
office. What do you think went wrong?
A: There are two kinds of people: those who are focused on commercial success
(nothing wrong in
wanting to make money) and

those who want to make a statement and enjoy commercial success too. Ashutosh
belongs to the
second category. I admit Swades

was a bit slow but its heart was in the right place.

To give another example, Mani Ratnam's films always have a moral. He doesn't
care about their
box office fate. But he's also clear

that he doesn't want to limit himself to an audience that watches only offbeat
films. He wants
his films to be seen by everyone.

That's why he insists on great music, great picturisation and creates excitement
about his
movie.

Q: Did you like the film?
A: Many people liked the film. I liked the script; that's why I scored the music
for it.

Q: Why did you score only two songs for Kisna
A: After I had recorded four songs for Subhash Ghai's Motherland, he changed his
mind and
decided to make an entirely different

film. At that time I was busy with Bombay Dreams, Lord of the Rings: The Musical
and so many
other projects. So, I told Mr. Ghai

that I wouldn't be able to concentrate on his new film right away. But I didn't
want to let go
of the project either. So, I offered to

score two songs for it.

Q: People keep complaining that the quality of Hindi film music is
deteriorating. What do you
think?
A: I don't think it's going down. The music of Devdas, the songs and their
picturisatiion
infused vitality into the product. In Lagaan,

too, there were little gems here and there.

If a producer wants to make a successful film today, he needs to have a very
strong idea to
work on as well as the conviction and

the team to pull the product through. Else he has go for soft porn. And that's
exactly what's
happening today.

Q: Speaking of Devdas, Sanjay Leela Bhansali and you were supposed to work
together. What
happened?
A: I respect Sanjay Leela Bhansali for the incredible work he has done. We were
supposed to
work together on Bajirao Mastani and

I was about to let go of Lord of the Rings for Bajirao.... when he suddenly
announced my name
as music director for Black. I asked

him, "What's going on? This isn't the film I was supposed to do and it has not
songs!" He
explained that there was a slight change

as he wasn't ready for Bajirao Mastani. I promptly sent a fax to the producers
of Lord of the
Rings to say I was on.

Q: You are the only Indian film music director to have tasted success outside
India. Are you
satisfied with what you've achieved

abroad or do you hunger for more?
A: I still yearn for different kinds of work. But I think everything should come
to you
naturally. You shouldn't dream of the

iimpossible; if it doesn't happen that leads to frustration. If God wants the
impossible to
happen, it will. So I don't keep thinking

about it, I wait for opportunity to knock on my door and make full use of it.
And I do work
very hard.

[Music4Ever]

If composing continuous dappanguthu songs for a myriad of typical masala movies being churned out of the K factory is the yardstick, then, yes, ARR is probably a forgotten hero. On the other hand, it was only a year ago that he composed some stunning numbers for S.J.Surya's New. The songs are reminiscent of ARR at his raw best (as opposed to refined best) during the mid-nineties. Every time I listen to this album I have been impressed by the awesome orchestration in each of the songs, probably barring kalayil dhinamum which is a melody and, needless to say, one of the very best in recent times. The spiderman song has superb music. The markandeya song is a delight. And I haven't even touched upon thottal poo malarum, sakkara inikkara sakkara, and the title song.

If GF and other movies to be released this year have songs of such impact, I would be very satisfied that ARR is still there and in total command.

[vijayr]

Q: People keep complaining that the quality of Hindi film music is
deteriorating. What do you
think?
A: I don't think it's going down. The music of Devdas, the songs and their
picturisatiion
infused vitality into the product.

Hmm..on the other hand, look at what Ismail Durbar had to say about ARR a few days back on rediff :-) A tale of two contrasting characters :-)

[kbee]

Just my 2 cents

I sold more than 100 boys CD - probably highest in Tamil CD so far. Next is Chandramukhi - close to 100 - purely due to Super *

I sold more than 200 CDs of Swadesh, next only to Kal Ho Na Ho and Veer Zaara

Other ARR hits in Tamil that we sold well are

Aaiyutha Ezhuthu
Enakku 20 Unakku 18
Kadhal Virus
Kangalal Kaidhu Sei

Surprisingly New CD sales are very low compared to the above, but mainly due to the quality of the movies.

Inspite of this, I think we need a good number from ARR. GF will not be that (I am 100% sure) cuz ARR wont spend time on Ajith / KSR. Hopefully it will be Manirathnam.

It is also very interesting to see how ARR will score when the TFM is at its low grade of taste.

[vincent]

WAT D HELL IS THIS "ISAI PUYAL"AR RAHMAN IS UNFORGETABLE
HE IS A GENIUS. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET A MD WHO GAVE SO MANY GREAT SONGS!!!!
HE'S A UNFORGETABLE HERO!!!! :thumbsup:

[alias]

Dude... I think you have woken up after a long time and found no new albums. I totally understand... ARR is the person who cannot be forgotten. He is ultimate star in the TFM.. who will rule for some more decade to come....

[kbee]

alias

you asked me a while back when is rising coming out. the audio is expected in 3rd week of june. keep your fingers crossed.

[vingem]

Hey kbee, any idea when GF will be coming out ?

[MADDY]

Last week i got to listen to sachin's music- all songs were okk types but when i heard "Vaadi vaadi" song i couldn't help myself dancing to the song........no wonder ppl. love such songs and it was not "in-and-out" dappankuthu........it had touch of class too.......so wat u guys think , shuld ARR also start giving such songs....cos i dunt see any wrong in it.......he is afterall there to give wat ppl. want isn't it??

[Scale]

ARR - forgotten hero va? :lol:

Listen BOSE :roll:

many ppl have forgotten Netaji. Bose music kettathukkappuram thaan neraya perukku ippadi voru alu iruntharunne nyabagam irukku. 20 tracks. mutthi mothina kooda varathu (ex. anniyan). jana gana mana theme version kettingala. who is forgotten?

TLOBS - ivara yaarunnu theritha. yaaruppa forgotten ?

SWADES - LIST ME ANY OTHER MD's WHO HAS GIVEN MORE PATRIOTIC SONGS. India va musicla nimurthu nikka vaikiravara poi forgottena?

wait for one more The RISING to come. mangala mangala mangala.

[svaisn]

Scale

where were u all these days...???

[Scale]

Scale direction a ippathan intha pakkam thiruppi irukken.

late 'a' vanthalum latest 'a' varuven.

I was bit lazy to create a username and pwd to login and post. I was afraid even if i create will i be able to post regularly.

I really enjoyed some of them posting here like MADDY MADDY O O MADDY (MY FAV TOO, kanna eppadi pa alai payuthu, tsunami vendame) i liked yr attitude being completely unbiased. dinesh (guess who i am) ARR top ten list pottu pottu mandaya kolapikkite irru (Duet missed, dont tell anyone if u guessed me rite). C~P, Cinefan, Ferrari, ha :D not to miss rajasaranam(tough a irukkumo), kbee & many others (sorry if i hav missed any).

Last few days i was reading almost many of the posts and i thought its rite time to get in.

Enjoy posting (dishum dishum dishum)

[dinesh2002]

BOSE movie releasin on 13 May!

[irfansong]

Hi Folks,

With some hit directors changing MDs (Example Shankar with Harris Jayraj), it doesnt mean that ARR is forgotten. He is doing great in his boundaries. I hope he'll still give good numbers. If you hear Anniyan songs and compare them with previous Shankar's numbers, you'd really say that ARR is the only option for Shankar.

ARR had said that he'll do music only with Indian instruments here after. This is after swadesh's hit. Lets see if he gives more swedeshi numbers.

[Scale]

Hi Folks,
ARR had said that he'll do music only with Indian instruments here after. This is after swadesh's hit. Lets see if he gives more swedeshi numbers.

IRFAN!

IS THIS TRUE :roll: ? DID ARR SAID THIS REALLY :roll: ?? I DONT THINK SO.

THIS IS ABSURD. AGAIN WHY HC-IR FANS WANT ARR TO FOLLOW THE SAME TREND WHEN IR WAS DOING FOR DECADES..... LISTEN TO IRUVAR, KC, SANGAMAM, MEENAXI & SWADES WHICH PROVES HOW VERSATILE AND EXPERIMENTAL IS ARR.

IF USING ONLY INDIAN INSTRUMENTS & COMPOSING ONLY FOLK SONGS IS CALLED DESAPATRU THEN I REALLY HATE THIS MENTALITY.....

[MADDY]

DUNT MISS SWADES ON STAR GOLD AT 1:00 PM ON 15TH OF AUGUST......DO YOU HAVE A MOHAN BHARGAV IN YOU????

i was just watching making of swades programme on Star gold.......yeh jo des hai tera is being constantly flashed in that channel.....wonder,if they had done half of the publicity when the movie had released and SRK had shown a little more interest in it than veer-zara then movie wud have been a gr8 hit..........

ARR has a big heart really- to see a song like "yeh jo des hai tera" going to the drains :cry: :cry: :cry: ....

[nilavupriyan]

no maddy...............arr is not forgotten.but he is down a bit.but he is still number 1 at present.

the thing is he is not as high as he was in later 90's.

its similar to sachin's form.sachin may not play well for 2 or 3 matches ...but he is still best batsman in the world.............in fact people have the mentality to say arr songs were good even if they sound bad

[alias]

Nilavupriyan, I think you forgot Alai payudhey, KK, Boys, KM, KKS, Swades, Lagaan, Legend of Bhagat singh, Meenaxi, Bose.....(the list goes on) released after 2000. So saying ARR is down is saying IR was down in 80s.

[nilavupriyan]

Nilavupriyan, I think you forgot Alai payudhey, KK, Boys, KM, KKS, Swades, Lagaan, Legend of Bhagat singh, Meenaxi, Bose.....(the list goes on) released after 2000. So saying ARR is down is saying IR was down in 80s.

in last five years you can hardly mention only 10 films for arr.........but i can mention 50-60 hits for ir 80-85.

that too in boys,km,kks,meenaxi were flops.......u must not say music director cant make a film run..........then how did ir made all mohan films and ramarajan films run.

do u think just giving 9-10 hits for half a decade is a great achievement?

[alias]

Dude, the reason that I mentioned 10 films is that, he has scored only that many numbers of films and IR has scored hundreds of films and all u can give is 50-60. Wow that clearly shows how ARR is way ahead of IR even in his peak period.

[nilavupriyan]

Dude, the reason that I mentioned 10 films is that, he has scored only that many numbers of films and IR has scored hundreds of films and all u can give is 50-60. Wow that clearly shows how ARR is way ahead of IR even in his peak period.

what do u mean..........why cant arr compose those many number of films?did anyone catch his hand?

even someone will compose wonderful music just for one film and say that he has got 100% success as all his movies are superb(1 film)

similarly arr had done only few films as if he try to do so many films as ir he would fail

[lancelot]

Last week i got to listen to sachin's music- all songs were okk types but when i heard "Vaadi vaadi" song i couldn't help myself dancing to the song........no wonder ppl. love such songs and it was not "in-and-out" dappankuthu........it had touch of class too.......so wat u guys think , shuld ARR also start giving such songs....cos i dunt see any wrong in it.......he is afterall there to give wat ppl. want isn't it??

u r correct.... Vaadi Caadi song was nice.. it had some dppankuthu with a mix of class.
i think ARR should giv songs like that.... hold on ....... i dont mean songs like Vaadi Vaadi or Manmadarasa.....
Can u guys remember Kathalan... i bet u can.... thaose songs had a kind of dappankuththu mixed with some unbelevable class only ARR can com up with....
i think it's time ARR comes out with somthin like Kathalan

jus my comments....
remember that am one hell of a ARR fan
hehe
:D