Some tamil words in world languages

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

There are enough proofs that all world Languages originated from single language.

New words and sounds were produced. New languages were formed. We cannot find out the root of all words existing in all languages.

But we can detect some words of old in nature resemble particularly in all world old classical languages. We can see some of them in this thread.

Tamil - Mirial/milagu Sanskrit- Miricha

Tamil- muthu Sanskrit-muktha

Tamil-aelam Sanskrit-aelam

Tamil-aruvi, Sanskrit-ru/su, Latin-riv-as, English-river, Greek-ruyo

Tamil- alai , Armenian- Alik, Finnish- Allok, Arabic-alija

Tamil-avvai Latin-av-as, Hebrew-eve

Tamil-Aavi Greek-avo

Tamil-erumbu Latin-oiyus, English-iron German-eyarn

Saksan-iyaring, Spanish- eran, Armenian-yarkath

Tamil-eenu English-yean


Tamil- Aar, Latin- aro, Greek-Arogna Lithuvanian-aru

Tamil- Kaan, sanskrit-kna Latin-Know, English- canon, Greek- knony, German - ksun Kothik- kun-an

Tamil-Kone, Mangolean- Kaan Ostiyak- Kone

Tamil-Koll, russian-kolyu English-kill

Tamil-sudu,sudar, Persian- sud-an, Kurdish- soduge-an

Tamil-nei/neithal, sanskrit- na, Latin-neyo, Greek- nekna, Germanian- na-en

Tamil-pala,palgu, finnish-polyo Manchi- fulu, Greek- polu, German- filu, Latin-plus

Tamil-thogu,thogai Italian-thoogi

Tamil-thigiri hebrew-thigris

Tamil-Oorppurathi Hebrew- Youpratis

Tamil-ethen Hebrew- eden(garden)

Tamil-Yongodu Sumeria- yengidu

Tamil-kai, Hebrew-coin

Tamil-Aayar- Hebrew- Aabel(Aabraham)

Tamil-nadu,naduthal, Hebrew- Knaft(english also)

Tamil-suvar, Hebrew- Shoe

Tamil- Thirayar, Greek-Thiriyar

Tamil-akka, ukraniean-yakkan

Tamil-Annai, Finland- Anya

Tamil-Appa, Finland-appi Hangary- eppa

Tamil- Aaththal, Finland-aththa

Tamil-Aam, Laffish- Aam

Tamil-Kel Finland- kulan

Tamil- maram Laffish- mar

(will be continued later on)

f.s.gandhi

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

Dr. R. Mathivanan deciphered the sindhy valley script and found hundreds of words of tamil. He came to the conclusion that the script is ancient tamil script.

Some of the words are

Avvan, Yanan, aranan, sanan, anthan,panan,enappan,kavachan,
kalaiyan etc.

He peculiarly noticed the words of gender difference.

thangan(thangai), nangan(nangai), avvan(avvai), Kannagan(kannagi)

The tamil words (sindhy valley)

saman,thaman,thathan,saththan,nanthan,Eethan, arayan,arasan,
oman,man,manan,Kovan etc. are

now in north paly languages as

samanlal,thaman(sindhi), sunilTHATH,Seit(shetty),nandalal, Eththan(sindhi), rai or rao, raj or raja, oman(malayalam),man, govindhu or gopi respectively.

f.s.gandhi

[RR]

[tscii:ddf5b2b36b]Though I'm not sure which is the original, I have been curious of the words

ºÁ÷òÐ (samarththu) - smart
«Ãì¸Ì½õ (arakka guNam) - arrogant[/tscii:ddf5b2b36b]

* Edited to add Transliteration *

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

Dear RR,

Kindly use English font of your words to make me understand what you said since my computer doesn't have tamil version.

f.s.gandhi

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

Dear RR,

I don't know exacty what is the intension behind your curiosity regarding the words samarthu and arakka kunam.

Anyway let us know the roots. They are tamil words only.

samarthu= sam+ar+thu

Sam is the root word which I specified in the thread 'clarification', was um-am-sam and means 'ontru seruthal'.

sammanthi- 'ontru seruthal'-mingling of two parents.

samam- equality(mingling of two persons)

Note sama panthi- samathuvam etc.

samar-pore-battle of two persons of equal power

Likewise when an extraordinary behaviour mingles with one person with equal foot, that is called SAMARTHU.

samarthiasali is from the same root.

ARAKKA KUNAM- Kunam every body knows.

Arakkam-root is 'aram' (small ra in tamil alphabet) ; means red.

Arabia,the word, formed from this root. Arabian people are reddish.

When any person turns red he becomes angry and fights with others without considering the outcome.

All foolish fighters are having 'arakka kunam'

Mars a planet for no. 9 people in nemerology is having red in colour.

All over the world red is considered as fighting tendency.

f.s.gandhi

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

(continuation)


Tamil-payaru
malayalam- payar
kannada- Pesar
Telugu- Pesara

Greek- Fesayalas

Tamil- From 'el','nei' is taken. So Ennai.
Malayalam-El
Telugu-Enma

Greek- elaya

Tamil-kuthurai
Kannada-kudura
Telugh-Kurramu

Greek-katairas

Tamil-piti-Old name for elephant
Asirian and Babylon- Pieru
Arabic-feel
Parsian-Pieru
sanskrit-Feelu

[RR]

Thanks for the explanation. Interesting to know that.

[ramraghav]

Ever noticed, words we use everyday.........

1. vettri (Tamil) --> victory (English)
2. arisi --> rice
3. parisu --> prize
4. idhara --> other
5. sarkkarai --> sugar --> sucre (French)

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

(continuation)

Tamil-Pa, pathi
Sanskrit- pathi,pithir,pithru,pitthar
Greek-pathir
Latin-paththar
Kothik-Fadar

Tamil-pa
English-paw(hand)

Tamil- pathukavar English- Father

Tamil-pai,pasai,pasu Sanskrit - pas Latin-pekas Kothik- paizu
German-payag

Tamil-param Sanskrit - parththa,parya,Prathar

tamil-thui Sanskrit-thugi

Fortune god in english and French

Tamil- parthi udayath thaivam - fortune hu-ju-se die e-e

f.s.gandhi

[Badri]

When they said kal thondri mann thonra kaalathu mun thonRiya mozhi, they were not joking pa.

Thanks Gandhi Vandyar for the loads of info you are giving us.

I happened to read some articles written by the Paramacharya of Kanchi - Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswati Swamigal. He too was a linguist of high order and derived great joy in tracing words and their roots. He too traces many words back to Tamil and says how old the language is.

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

Thank you :) Mr.badri.

Hindu religion is tamil religion. And in the process of finding out the truth behind 'upanishaths'meanings Kanchi paramachariar sri chandrasekara swamigal would have found the roots of tamil.

(continuation of words)

Tamil- palai Arabic- na-pali

Tamil-Aaru,nun Sumerian- naru,nun

Tamil -karaithunithal-karai pilavupadal-land diversion
Aserian-karathuniyash

Tamil-parima-horse/ass
Semiththiyan-purimu

Tamil-kalai, sanskrit-kala Arabic-kila

Tamil-maravan Arabic-marwan

Tamil-mariyanar-mari(horse)-horse driver
Midanni-Mariyanni

Tamil-kramam- village Midanni-Karkkamish

Tamil- kappal,punai,kaniyan respectively as Fonnish- kappun,puniyath,kanani

Tamil-arul Hiththiam-arunas midanni-uruvana

Tamil-yan(me), Aam, chol, appan,annai respectively as Amerik-ene,Aave, kal, appath, innath

Tamil-kedu Ellamiyam-kedu

Tamil- Aa Hebrew- yaw

Tamil-maruthu,ill(veedu) respectively as Babylonian-Marthuk, ilu

Tamil-manam Greek-mna Sanskrit- mana Latin- mina
Hebrew-manae Egytian-Mn Akkadian-mana

Tamil-maccham Sanskrit- mathsya Jent-masya Latin- pissis
Kothik-fishk Irish-kiyask English-fish

Tamil- mani Sanskrit-mani Jent-minu Greek-mannos Latin-monile Akkadian-minas

Tamil-pakavan sanskrit- pagvan jent-fugash

Tamil-suriyan sanskrit-surya Jent-suryash

Tamil-elli jent-helios

Tamil-vari/vaari (kadal-sea) Latin-mara Kothik-mari Lithuvanian- maarey Irish-meyur Greek- Ampi-maras

Tamil-akadu Semian-akkadu Greek-arkkaft

Tamil-anali Jent-An

f.s.gandhi

[sundararaj]

Excellent info vandayar avargale. Mikavum nandri.

[thamizhvaanan]

Great info F.S Gandhi vandayar. Can you please validate the following info:

I remember reading long back, that some of the greek words have no roots in greek language itself, and that they point towards tamil for their origin. Some popular greek words that I remember...

terra - land - Tharai (தரை)
Aqua - Water - Akkam (அக்கம்)
Tele - distant - tholai (தொலை)

And it seems the word Rice also owes its origin to Tamil. See the link below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Tamil_origin

The English word rice is borrowed from the Greek word "oruza" ((μαγειρ.) ὄρύζα) which is similar to the Tamil word அரிசி arici and telugu word Vari referring to paddy . This strongly indicates trade between ancient Greeks and ancient Indians in region of Southern India. The OED's etymological analysis, for example, is now well over a century old and the field has advanced a good bit since then. In relation to the etymology of rice, linguists in the 1920s categorically ruled out the possibility of a Tamil origin arguing, inter alia, that there was no direct contact between the South of India and the Greek-speaking world in the 4th century BC (see e.g. Jules Bloch's "Le nom du riz", printed in Etudes Asiatique, L'ecole Francaise d'extreme orient, 1925). Of late, it is well established that there were in fact significant trade links between India and Greece at that time, and several newer scholars take it for granted that the word entered Greek from Tamil (e.g. John Thorley's 1969 piece "The development of trade between the Roman Empire and the East under Augustus", printed in Greece & Rome, 16:2 at pp. 222).

[NVK Ashraf]

[tscii:949b4c2a20]The Arabic word "Waaris" (وارث) means “Heir”. I have always wondered if the Tamil word "வாரிசு" (Waarisu) came from that! Well, may be the case, if the word is not found in ancient Tamil literatures dated prior to 10th century AD.

The word "Aelam" (عالم) in Arabic which means “World or Universe”. Sounds very similar to Tamil world "ஞாலம்" (Jnaalam) which also means “World or Universe”. This word finds a place in Tirukkural which means it was is use in Tamil Nadu even before the arrival of Arabic. It will be worth finding out the occurrence of equivalent words in other languages, especially other Semitic languages. [/tscii:949b4c2a20]

[F.S.Gandhi vandayar]

After Some time, may write about Arabic words which have direct & shrinked roots of tamil.

Many scholars are taking care about only direct words. They always fit tamil grammar into the word evolution and word comparison which shall not fundamentally suit in word archeology. They can only find direct words.

But, naturally dialect shrinkages & phonetical aspects only help new language formation.

Dear Tamizhvanan,

Greek & Latin words-most of them have only tamilroots. Most of the present English words roots through greek / Latin can be traced to tamil.

Thiru. Gnanakiri Nadar's book on tamil roots in Greek & Latin shall give some light.

NVK Asraf have mentioned some words. But I find most of the Arabic words have tamil roots.

For example,

frequenetly used words of Arabs :

English-Arabic-tamil pattern :

I know- 'Ana arif' - Naan Ariva

Your box - Intha santhuk - Unthen chanthu (petti)

Come - ThaaZh - Vaa / Thaa

100 percent true - Miya Miya - Mey mey /Norukku nooru

Throw - Ermi - Eari

Tight - rakkap - Thiruku / Irukku

Beat - Aththeen - Adi

top - Foke, alae, Arapha - pokku, Alai , Appal / Appa

Waste way - kalli Vazhi - Kazhi Vazhi (Kazhi Vazhi turned 'kai veli' -a place for wastes in chennai tamil)

And goes on. I may write about this after some time.

f.s.gandhi

[aanaa]

interesting
thodaravum

[salem.saravanan]

Tamil Maaganam pradesam
Thai makkan pradse
so many relation between indian language and thai language :idea: :idea: :idea: :idea: :D

[salem.saravanan]

ஆனால் cஏன மொழிஉடன் எந்த தொடர்பும் இருபதாக எனக்கு தோன்ரவில்லை :D

[Sudhaama]

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. FRENCH Word THAE ( தே ).. meaning SWEET.

..originated from TAMIL.

.Quote: தே மதுர தமிழ்-ஓசை உலகம் எலாம் பரவும் வகை செய்தல் வேண்டும் - மகா கவி பாரதியார்.


"Thae Madhura Thamizh-Osai Ulaham ellaam paravum Vahai seydhal vaendum - Bharathi


. TEA. (French Word... pronounced as "THAE" / தே )

..meaning as SWEET... also used for the Name of the Beverage named as TEA...

..Pronounced as TEE ( டீ ) in English... but THAE / தே ... in French
.

[sar]

FRENCH Word THAE ( தே ).. meaning SWEET.

தே (tae) என்பது SWEET(honey) tea!!! என்று சொல்லாமல் சொல்லி விட்டீர்கள்...

[jaaze]

sugar and the word sakkarai derived from the arab word 'shagar'

[bis_mala]

sugar and the word sakkarai derived from the arab word 'shagar'

இது உண்மையன்று.

இந்தியரே பழங்காலந்தொட்டு இனிப்பு எடுக்க அறிந்திருந்தனர்.
இந்தியரிடமிருந்து அரேபியர் அறிந்து பின் அதை மேலை நாடுகளில் பரப்பினர் என அறிகிறோம்.

சர்க்கரை அல்லது சருக்கரை என்பது தமிழ்தான்.

[Sudhaama]

sugar and the word sakkarai derived from the arab word 'shagar'

இது உண்மையன்று.

இந்தியரே பழங்காலந்தொட்டு இனிப்பு எடுக்க அறிந்திருந்தனர்.
இந்தியரிடமிருந்து அரேபியர் அறிந்து பின் அதை மேலை நாடுகளில் பரப்பினர் என அறிகிறோம்.

சர்க்கரை அல்லது சருக்கரை என்பது தமிழ்தான்.

Is there any Historical proof for this information.?

Or can it be substantiated by our Tamil-Literature.?

If I am correct... the English word SUGAR... has developed from the Arabic word SHAKKAR... which is also the Urdu and Hindi word too.

In India Sugar was introduced by Phillippines... where the Sugarcane growth was abudant and comparatively very cheap...

...and so Sugar was manufactured at a place named ASKA in Phillippines.

Hence when the Britishers imported it from Phillippines... it was called as ASKA SAKKARAI...initially...

Later on... in Tamil.. it got named as SAKKARAI.

During the previous days... Indians knew only VELLAM (GURH) and the powdered Vellam.

Because the process of manufacturing Sugar was totally new to Indians.

...which knowhow was imported later to India.

So the Words SAKKAR OR SUGAR cannot have the Origin from Tamil... or any other Indian Language.

Initially Chinese used to import and sell Sugar in India... and so the Commoners used to call Sugar as...CHEENI.

There is one Tamil Word in our ancient Tamil-Literature as... AKKAARAM... for Sugar or Shakkar, which can in no way be related with SHAKKAR or SARKKARAI...

..which words are the subsequent introductions to Tamil.
.

[levoeg]

hi all

can anyone tell me the word"GENOME" in tamil

thanks in advance

[bis_mala]

Please see my post on July 17, 2009 6.13 p.m.in the thread: "Unique Language Tamil - How" and further posts in thread: Tamil Word Development. The matter seems to have been dispersed into several threads unfortunately.