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Topic started by vijay prakash (lolluvijay@yahoo.com) (@ 61.11.72.222) on Tue Feb 24 06:06:57 EST 2004.




nee thirumbiya pinnum
ennai parthu sirithana
unathu malligai pookal..

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i like 2 things here... :)

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poda lavade ke ball

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good imagination VIJAY PRAKASH...

AND..

mr.suchi....plz mind ur words. This is poetry section and we welcome only sensible ppl with good posts.

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excellent poem vijay
its really good.

n i agree with shakthi.....
suchi plz mind ur words

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Hi,
HI, this is a very good attempt.
In all modesty, shall I ask every one of us to ponder what is poetry? Is it "intellectual coinage of words"- which just appeases the logic (or)
can there be something in the two lines which you can subjectively feel when you read the verses time and again giving you new perspectives?Can we come out of the beaten track of the infatuation, Kaadal and mundane stuffs like that? Let us discuss.

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most of us here do try to slowly move on from such ordinary subjects to better topics. athu oru natural evolution.

ingey, maranam patriyum (suresh), adultery patriyum (thiruthakkan) kooda ezuthiyirukkanga. but, ennavo, pattinaththar levelukku poi life-i autopsy panna viruppam irukkiradhillai.

my friend used to rightly call this FH Utopia. silarukku Eden. Silarukku college campus. KarmaNyE vAdikarashtey.. neenga aarambinga. We may follow.

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sudhakar,

I wonder hwo u can kaathal, and infatuation mundane stuffs? We all go thro the same at some particular point of time or other.

Poetry is something, where by u express any given situation or thought or irony of the same with good imagination and choice of words....or an entirely a different perspective.

How do u think what subject u write on matters?
This world functions with the same mundane logic of love and infatuations.

U can expect a 16 or 26 year olds or even 36 year olds to write on something which is NOT connected even remotely with love.

If such a subject is mundane, any topic connected with social or environmental or anyohter awareness is equally mudane for them.

thx
shakthi

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Super da maams...

aval thiumbiya pinnum .aval malligai unnai parthu sirithathu ..hek hek hek
Sirika matum than seijithaa ..illai "SERUPPU PINJIDUMNU SOLLICHA"
hehehehe
:pppp:::P

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¯í¸û ¯½÷¨Å, ±ØòÐãÄõ, ÀÊôÀŨà ¯½Ã¨ÅòÐÅ¢ð¼¡ø - «Ð ¸Å¢¨¾...

- «ôÀÊò¾¡§É? þø¨Ä¡ ? :-( ...

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Hello Shakthi,
Let me clarify on what I have said. I have only tried to urge everyone to come out of the "beaten Track" of the Mundane stuff. As Shakthi says, everything is mundane - as we come across them. I am not against the writing of Kaathal, Infatuations.. Only I wanted to come out of the beaten track. FOr ages love ,infatuation are written - BUT the approaches are different.
Death is also mundane as the life itself. But in poetry, if we can approach these mundane stuff differently.

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"¾£ìÌû Å¢Ã¨Ä ¨Åò¾¡ø ¿ó¾Ä¡Ä¡, ¯ý¨Éò ¾£ñÎÁ¢ýÀõ §¾¡ýÚ¾¼¡ ¿ó¾Ä¡Ä¡"
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;¡¸÷ (‚Áí¨¸),

±ý ¸øæâ ¿¡ð¸Ç¢ø, ´Õ Ó¨È, ±ÉÐ §ÀẢâÂ÷ ¯¾¡Ã½í¸û ÜÚõ§À¡Ð ¦º¡ýÉÐ...

´Õ ¬í¸¢Ä ¸Å¢»÷, ÁÃò¾¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ´Õ þ¨ÄîºÕÌ ¸£§Æ Å¢ØŨ¾ô À¡÷òÐ «¨¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾Â¡¸ ÅÊò¾¡÷...

the leaf is falling....

«ùÅÇ×¾¡ý ¸Å¢¨¾§Â... ¬É¡ø «¨¾ «Å÷, ´ù¦Å¡Õ ±Øò¨¾Ôõ ´ýÈý¸£ú ´ýÈ¡¸, «¾¡ÅÐ, ´Õ ºÕÌ §Á§Ä¢ÕóÐ ¸£§Æ Å¢Øõ§À¡Ð ±ôÀÊ Å¢Ø§Á¡ «ôÀÊ, ±Ø¾¢É¡÷. ºÕÌ §¿÷ì §¸¡ðÊø ŢơÐ... °ïºÄ¡Êì ¦¸¡ñ§¼ ŢاÁ «§¾§À¡ø ±Ø¾¢É¡÷. «ì¸Å¢¨¾¨Âô ÀÊô§À¡÷, «ó¾ ºÕÌ Å¢Øõ «Æ¨¸ ¸Å¢»÷ ±ôÀÊ Ãº¢ò¾¢ÕôÀ¡÷ ±ýÀ¨¾ ÒâóРú¢ò¾É÷.

þÐ ±ó¾ Ũ¸ ?

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;¡¸÷ (‚Áí¨¸),

þ¾¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ²¾¡ÅÐ §¸ûÅ¢§¸ðÎ ±ýÉ¢¼õ À¾¢ø ±øÄ¡õ ±¾¢÷À¡÷츾£÷¸û. ¿¡ý «õ§Àø... §¸ûÅ¢¸û ±øÄ¡õ ¿¡ó¾¡ý §¸ð§Àý. ±ÉìÌ §¸ð¸ ÁðÎõ¾¡ý ¦¾Ã¢Ôõ ( ¾¢ÕÅ¢¨Ç¡¼ø À¡÷ò¾£÷¸Ç¡?) :-))



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Hello Suresh,
I also belong to the category that Nagesh says in Thiruvilaiyaadal.. " ezuthi parisil perum pulavarkaLum irukkiRaarkaL. kuRRam kaNtupitiththae vaazum pulavarkaLum irukkiRaarkaL" adiyaen irantaavathu vakai!!!!

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My PG professor( a Cantab) always asks us "to ask intelligent questions"! That means kELvi kEtkavum oru intelligence vENdum!

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±øÄ¡õ º÷¾¡í¸... ±ýÈ §¸ûÅ¢ìÌ þýÛõ À¾¢ø Åø¨Ä§Â? :-))

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Suresh,

//´Õ ¬í¸¢Ä ¸Å¢»÷, ÁÃò¾¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ´Õ þ¨ÄîºÕÌ ¸£§Æ Å¢ØŨ¾ô À¡÷òÐ «¨¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾Â¡¸ ÅÊò¾¡÷...

the leaf is falling.... //---Suresh, my Prof has talked about this too...what a coincidence...but i forgot who the poet is...ungaluku theriyuma??


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¿ñÀ÷ ;¡¸÷ ¦º¡ÄÐ §À¡ýÚ - ¸Å¢¨¾ ÀÊôÀÅÉ¢ý Á§É¡À¡Åò¨¾Ôõ ¾ýÅÂôÀÎòò§ÅñÎõ. ¸¡ðº¢ Å¢ÅâôÒ ±ýÀ§¾¡¼øÄ¡Áø - ¦º¡øÄ ÅÕ¸¢È ¦ºö¾¢Â¢ø ´Õ ÐÇ¢§ÂÛõ Å¡º¸É¢ý ÁÉÅ¡É¢ý ±ø¨Ä¨Â Ţâš츧ÅñÎõ - «øÄÐ Ðñ¼§ÅñÎõ.

«§¾ ºÁÂò¾¢ø ¸¡¾¨Ä ¦º¡øħŠܼ¡Ð ±ý§È¡ - Í «ÛÀÅô À¸¢÷¾ø ܼ¡Ð ±ý§È¡ ¿¡ý ´ôÀÅ¢ø¨Ä.

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" ¿£ ±ý¨Éò ¾£ñ¼¡Å¢Êø ±ýÉ?..
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geno

that was lovely... ¯í¸û ¸Å¢¨¾Â¡¸ þÕó¾¡ø À¡Ã¡ðÎ ¯í¸Ù째... reproduce ¦ºö¾¢Õó¾¡ø... ±Ø¾¢ÂÅ÷ ¦ÀÂ÷ ¦º¡øÄ ÓÊÔÁ¡?

Malligai,

// Suresh, my Prof has talked about this too...what a coincidence...but i forgot who the poet is...ungaluku theriyuma?? //

- by any chance had you been my class mate in PSGCAS, coimbatore ? :-)).... i dont remember the poet's name.sorry.

À.À¢,

«ó¾ì ¸Å¢»÷ «ó¾ ´Õ ¸Å¢¨¾¨Âò¾¡ý «ôÀÊ ±Ø¾¢Â¡¸ì §¸ûÅ¢ôÀð§¼ý. º÷츊 ¦ºöŧ¾ Å¡Ê쨸¡¸ì ¦¸¡ûÇ «Å÷ ´ýÚõ «Ãº¢ÂøÅ¡¾¢ÂøÄ ±ýÚ ¿¢¨É츢§Èý. ±Ø¾¢ÂÅ÷ ¦À¨Ãì ¸ñÎÀ¢Êì¸ ÓÂüº¢ ¦ºö¸¢§Èý... :-)

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±ý¨É À÷ºÉÄ¡¸ì §¸ð¼¡ø, ¸¡Ïõ ¸¡ðº¢¸Ç¢Öõ ¸Å¢¨¾ ¦¾Ã¢¸¢ÈÐ... ÀÊìÌõ ¸Å¢¨¾¸Ç¢ø ¸¡ðº¢¸Ùõ ¦¾Ã¢¸¢ÈÐ... ¬¸, ÀÊôÀÅâý, À¡÷ôÀÅâý ÁÉ¿¢¨Ä¾¡ý Ó츢Âõ ±ýÚ ¸Õи¢§Èý.

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̓¡¾¡Å¢ý ´Õ ¸¨¾ »¡À¸ò¾¢üÌ ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ. «¾¢ø ÅÂÄ¢ø âÁÕóÐ /¯ÃÁÊìÌõ Å¢Á¡Éõ ¾¡Æ, §Á§Ä ÀÈôÀ¨¾ ±ØòÐì¸¨Ç «¨¾ô§À¡Ä§Å ¾¡ÚÁ¡È¡¸ Å⨺ôÀÎò¾¢Â¢ÕôÀ¡÷¸û. ¿¡ÅÖìÌ þÐ ´Õ ¯ò¾¢... ¸Å¢¨¾ìÌ... ???
ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ.! ±ýÉ¡ø ¸Å¢òÐÅÁ¡¸ ²ü¸ÓÊÂÅ¢ø¨Ä. µÕ§Å¨Ç PP ±Ø¾¢ÂЧÀ¡Ä, ú¨É Àò¾¡§¾¡ ±ýɧš?


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Geno,
Thanks for the brilliant explanation.
¸¡¾¨Ä ±ØÐŧ¾ ܼ¡Ð ±ýÀ¾¢ø¨Ä. «¨¾§Â ±Ø¾¢ì¦¸¡ñÊÕôÀÐ , ¿¡õ ÁüÈÅüÈ¢üÌõ sensitive- ¬¸ þø¨Ä ±ýÀ¨¾ ¸¡ðθ¢ÈÐ. Á¨Ä¡Çò¾¢Öõ ¸Å¢¨¾¸¨Çì §¸ðÊÕ츢§Èý. ÁáðÊ¢Öõ ¿¡¼¸õ À¡÷ò¾¢Õ츢§Èý. «ýÈ¡¼ Å¡úÅ¢ý º¢üº¢Ä ¿¢¸ú¸¨Çì ¦¸¡ñÎ «Å÷¸û ±ùÅÇ× àÃõ Áɨ¾ô À¡¾¢òÐŢθ¢È¡÷¸û?!
þÐ pessimism/ comparative criticism «øÄ. ¦À¡ÐÅ¡¸ ¿ÁÐ ¸Å¢¨¾¸û ¸¡¾¨Ä, ¸¡Áò¨¾ò ¾¡ñÊ ÅÕž¢ø¨Ä. Exposure & experience Ó츢Âõ ¸Å¢¨¾ ±Ø¾. - expertise «øÄ.



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þôÀÊò¾¡ý þÕì¸ §ÅñÎõ ... þôÀÊ þÕ츧Šܼ¡Ð ±ýÈ ±ñ½í¸¨Ç ¾ûÇ¢ ¨ÅòÐÅ¢ðÎ, µ þôÀÊìܼ ÓÊÔõ§À¡ø ¦¾Ã¢¸¢È§¾ ±ýÈ ÌÆó¨¾ô À¡÷¨Å À¡÷ò¾¡ø, ±øÄ¡Åü¨ÈÔõ ú¢ì¸Ä¡õ. ÓÊ¡Р?

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ÓÊÔõ. ¬É¡ø ú¢ôÀ¨Å ±øÄ¡õ ¸Å¢¨¾Â¡¸¢Å¢¼ ÓÊ¡¾øÄÅ¡?!


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¾¡ý ú¢ò¾ «üÀ Å¢„Âò¨¾Ôõ "¬†¡!" ±ýÚ ÀÊôÀÅ÷ Å¢ÂìÌõ Åñ½õ ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀÎò¾ò ¦¾Ã¢ó¾Åý ¸Å¢»ý!


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«ó¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾ ¿¡ý ±Ø¾¢Âо¡ý! (À¢ýÉ! Áñ¼ÀòÐÄ Â¡Ã¡ÅÐ ±Ø¾¢ì ¦¸¡ÎòÐ «¨¾ ¿¡ý þí§¸ ÅóÐ §À¡ð§¼ýÛ ¦¿Éí¸Ç¡??!!!! :-))))

;¡¸Ã¢ý ¸Õò§¾¡Î ±ÉìÌ µÃÇ× ¯¼ýÀ¡Î ¯ñÎ. ¬É¡ø, Üξġ¸ º¢ÄÅü¨È §Àº Å¢¨Æ¸¢§Èý.

ÁÃÒì¸Å¢¨¾ - þÄ츽ìÜñÊø «¨¼ì¸ôÀðÊÕó¾§À¡Ð - ÌÈ¢ôÀ¡¸ þ¨¼ì¸¡Äí¸Ç¢ø (ºí¸¸¡Äò¾¢ø «ýÚ) - ¦ÀÕõÀ¡Öõ ¦ºöÔû¸Å¢¨¾¸û - ÁýÉ÷¸Ç¢ý 'Á¡Å£Ãò¨¾Ôõ' - 'áƒÌľ¢Ä¸' Àá«ì¸¢ÃÁí¸¨ÇÔõ, «Å÷¸Ç¢ý '«ó¾ôÒÃ' øº¢Âí¸¨ÇÔ§Á - À¡ÎžüÌô ÀÂýÀÎò¾ôÀðÊÕ츢ÈÐ.

º¢§Ä¨¼Ôõ, º¢Õí¸¡ÃÓ§Á ¦ÀÕõÀ¡ý¨Áî ¦ºöÔû ¦ÅñÀ¡ì¸Ç¢Öõ, ¸ð¼¨Çì¸Ä¢òШȸǢÖõ ¦¸¡Ö Å£üÈ¢Õó¾¢Õ츢ÈÐ.

þÕÀ¾¡õ áüÈ¡ñÊý À¢üÀ̾¢Â¢ø¾¡ý - 'ÒÐì¸Å¢¨¾'Ô¸õ þó¾ ¦ºöÔû Å¢üÀýÉ÷¸Ç¢ý ¨¸Â¢Ä¢ÕóÐ - ¦Á¡Æ¢¨Â, ¦Á¡Æ¢ôÀ¨¼ôÀ¢ý ¯îºÁ¡É ¸Å¢¨¾¨Â- ¨¸ôÀüÈ¢ - º¡¾¡Ã½ ¦ÅÌºÉ ÅÊÅÁ¡¸ - ¯¨ÆìÌõ Áì¸Ç¢ý ÌÃÄ¡¸ - ¾É¢ÁÉ¢¾Ûì¸¡É ´Ä¢ôÀ¡É¡¸ Á¡üÈ¢ÂÐ.

þó¾ 'ºÉ¿¡Â¸ò¾ý¨Á' ¾Á¢¨Æ ÅÇôÀÎò¾¢ÔÁ¢Õ츢ÈÐ; «§¾ ºÁÂò¾¢ø - ¯ûÇ£¼üÈ 'À¨¼ôÒì¸û' ±Æì ¸¡Ã½Á¡¸×õ þÕó¾¢Õ츢ÈÐ.

¿õ ÓýÉ¡ø þÕ츢ýÈ §¸ûÅ¢ - ÒÐì¸Å¢¨¾ìÌ(«øÄÐ ±ó¾ ´Õ ¸Å¢¨¾ìÌõ) - À¡Î¦À¡Õû ÌÈ¢òРŨÃÂ¨È ¦ºö¾ø ÀüÈ¢ÂøÄ - Á¡È¡¸ - ¦º¡øÄôÀθ¢È - ÅÊÅõ, ¦¾¡É¢, ¸ð¼¨ÁôÒ, ¯ð¸¢¨¼(implication) - ±ùÅ¡Ú «¨Á¾ø §ÅñÎõ ±ýÀо¡ý.

þ¨¾ ӾĢø ¦¾Ç¢Å¡¸ô ÒâóÐ ¦¸¡ûÇ §ÅñÎõ.

±ó¾ ´Õ À¨¼ôÒ§Á - Å¡º¸¨É «øÄÐ ÀÊôÀÅ¨É ¦ºØ¨ÁôÀÎò¾ò¾¡ý «øÄÐ ¯Â÷ò¾ò¾¡ý - «Å¨É Óý§É¡ì¸¢ µÃÊ¡ÅÐ þðÎøÄò¾¡ý ±ý¸¢È ¦ºùÅ¢ÂøÅ¡¾õ ¿£ñ¼ ¸¡ÄÁ¡¸ ¿¢ÄÅ¢ ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ.

þø¨Ä, þø¨Ä - ¦ºØ¨Á§Â¡ ¦Åí¸¡Â§Á¡ - Å¡º¸ý ¦ºöÐ ¦¸¡ûÇðÎõ - ´Õ ¦À¡Õû ÌÈ¢òÐ «ÅÛû ¸ÕòРŢš¾õ ¯ûéà ¿¼ò¾î ¦ºöÐÅ¢ð¼¡§Ä §À¡Ðõ - «¾ý ±¾¢÷Å¢¨É¸¨Ç Å¡º¸ý ÓÊ× ¦ºöÐ ¦¸¡ûÇðÎõ ±ýÀÐ ´Õ ¾¡÷ò¾Å¡¾õ.

þùÅ¢¾Á¡É þÃñÎ ¾Ãô¨ÀÔõ Ü÷óÐ §¿¡ì¸¢É¡ø, þÕÅÕõ ´ôÒ즸¡ûÅÐ - 'À¨¼ôÒ' Å¡º¸¨É ²¾¡ÅÐ ´ÕÅ¢¾ò¾¢ø À¡¾¢ì¸ §ÅñÎõ. ÌÇò¾¢ø ¸ø¦ÄÈ¢ó¾¡ø ²üÀÎÅÐ §À¡ýÚ ´Õ º¢Ú «¨Ä¡ÅÐ ²üÀ¼§ÅñÎõ «ÅÛûÇò¾¢ø ±ýÀо¡ý «Ð.

'À¨¼ôÒ' - ÀÊôÀŨÉÔõ ´Õ Å¢¾ò¾¢ø À¨¼ôÀ¡Ç¢Â¡ì¸§ÅñÎõ - À¨¼ôÀ¢ø þÕì¸¢È Å¢„Âò¨¾Ôõ ¾¡ñÊ - ÀÊôÀÅ¨É ¸üÀ¨É, ¸É× ¦ºöÐ - ¸¡ðº¢ô ÀÎò¾¢ô À¡÷òÐì ¦¸¡ûÇ - «Å¨Éò àñ¼ §ÅñÎõ.

¿¢ü¸....ÒÐì¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý 'ºÉ¿¡Â¸ò¾ý¨Á' Ò¾¢Â ¸Å¢¸¨Ç ¯ÕÅ¡Ìžý ãÄõ - ¦Á¡Æ¢§Â¡Î «Å÷¸ÙìÌñ¼¡É '¯È¨Å' ¯Ú¾¢Â¡ìÌÅÐõ ´ÕŨ¸Â¢ø ¯ñ¨Á¾¡ý. ±É§Å hard and fast rules §À¡Ä ¦¾Ã¢Â¡Áø - «§¾ºÁÂõ À¨¼ôÀ¢ý ¦ÁÕ¨¸ì Üð¼§ÅñÊ «Åº¢Âò¨¾ - ¿¡õ ÍðÊ측ð¼Ä¡õ. :-)


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Hello Geno,
Thanks for the nice explanation.

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Geno¨Åò ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ...
¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ø beaten track³ Å¢ðÎ ±ôÀÊ Á¡ÈÓÊÔõ ±ýÀ¾üÌ «À¢Â¢ý "¦ÁÇÉò¾¢ý ¿¡×¸û" ´Õ ±ÎòÐ측ðÎ. ¸¡Áò¨¾ "§À¡ §À¡ áôÀ¢î¨ºì¸¡Ã§É" ±ýÚ ÅÕ½¢ì¸¢È¡÷.
±òШ½Â¢ÊÛõ ¿¢ÃõÀ¡¾
¯ý µð¨¼ôÀ¡ò¾¢Ã ¿¡üÈò¾¢ø
±ý ÍÅ¡ºí¸û Ü͸¢ýÈÉ"

" º¢Ä§Ã º¨Áò¾¾¢ø ¯ÉìÌô ÀíÌ ¾Õ¸¢È¡÷¸û.
ÀÄÕõ ¯É측¸§Å º¨Á츢ȡ÷¸û"
ÅûÙÅý, Å¡òŠÂ¡Âý Ó¾ø ¨ÅÃÓòРŨà ±øÄ¡Õõ À¡÷ò¾ Å¢¾ò¾¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ±ôÀÊ Á¡üÈõ ÅóòâÕ츢ÈÐ?!
«¾ü¸¡¸ ÀðÊÉò¾¡÷ range-ìÌô §À¡¸§Åñʾ¢ø¨Ä. «Ð×õ ´Õ beaten track-¾¡§É.

ÀÂí¸Ãò¨¾ô À¡÷òÐ «Æ¦¸ýÈ¡ý À¡Ã¾¢. «ÅÉÐ "°Æ¢ìÜòÐ" ÀÊòÐÀÀ¡Õí¸û. ¸Å¢òÐÅò¾¢ý Áü¦È¡Õ ÀâÁ¡½õ ¦¾Ã¢Ôõ.
¿¢¨È ¦Äìº÷ «ÊòÐÅ¢ð§¼ý...§À¡ÃÊòÐÅ¢ð¼¡ø ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ.
«ýÒ¼ý
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"¿¢¨È ¦Äìº÷ «ÊòÐÅ¢ð§¼ý"- þо¡§É §Å½¡í¸ÈÐ!!!
þýÛõ ¿¢¨È §ÀÕìÌ ¦¾Ç¢×õ, ¯Ú¾¢Ôõ, ¿£û§¿¡ìÌõ, ¸Õò¾¡ÆÓõ ¨¸ÅçÅñÎõ ±ýÚ §ÀÃÅ¡ ¦¸¡ñÊÕìÌõ §Å¨Ç¢ø þÕÅÕõ ÜȢ «Øò¾Á¡É ¸ÕòÐì¸û «Õ¨Á!
Å¡÷ò¨¾ƒ¡Äò¾¢ø Å¡ºõ ¦ºöž¢ø¨Ä ¸Å¢¨¾, Å¡úÅ¢Âø ¸ñ§½¡ð¼õ «¾ý ÍÅ¡ºÁ¡¸ þÕó¾¡ø Üξø ͨÅ!
¸Å¢¨¾ìÌõ ¯¨Ã¿¨¼ìÌ ¯ûÇ §ÅÚÀ¡Î- ´§Ã Å¢„Âò¨¾ ¯¨Ã¿¨¼ ¦ºö¾¢§À¡ø ¾ÕŨ¾, ¯ûÇòÐ ¯½÷׸¨Ç Á£ðÊ Å¡º¢ò¾Å÷ º¢ó¨¾Â¢ø ´Õ º¢È¢Â/¦Àâ ¾¡ì¸ò¨¾ ²üÀÎòÐÅÐ ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý þÂøÒ.
¯¾¡Ã½Á¡¸ ºÁ£Àò¾¢ø "¯Ä¸õ" ¾¢Ã¢Â¢ø À¾¢× ¦ºöÂôÀð¼ ¨ÅÃÓòÐÅ¢ý Ţź¡Â¢ ¸Å¢¨¾. Ţź¡Â¢Â¢ý Å¢¨Çîºø ±¾¢÷À¡Ã¡¾ Å¢¾Á¡¸ ÒØò¾¡ì̾¾¡ø À¡¾¢ì¸ôÀð¼Ð, «¾É¡ø ¿‰¼Óõ Áɸ‰¼Óõ §¿÷ó¾Ð ±ýÈ ¯¨Ã¿¨¼ ¦ºö¾¢Â¢ø ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀ¼¡¾ «ÅÄò¨¾ º¢Ú¸ º¢Ú¸ ±Ç¢¨ÁÂ¡É Å¢¾ò¾¢ø Á¢¸ ¾¡÷ò¾Á¡¸ ÁñÅ¡º¨É§Â¡Î Ţź¡Â¢Â¢ý ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢§Ä§Â Å÷½¢òÐ ÀÊôÀÊ¡¸ «Åý ±¾¢÷À¡÷ôÒ¸û ÅÇ÷󾨾, «¨Å Áñ½¡ö §À¡É ¦¸¡Î¨Á¨Â þ¨Æ þ¨Æ¡ö À¢ýÉ¢ Áɨ¾ À¢Æ¢óРŢð¼Ð ¿øÄ ¸Å¢¨¾¦ÂýÀ¾üÌ º¢Èó¾ º¡ýÚ.


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¯ñ¨Á¾¡ý pp «Å÷¸§Ç

«ó¾ 'Ţź¡Â¢' ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢Ä¢Õó¾ ±Ç¢¨ÁÂ¡É ¬É¡ø «¼÷ò¾¢Â¡É ¯ñ¨Á, ¿¢¾Ã¢ºÉõ - À¡¨È §À¡ø ¾¡ì¸¢ÂÐ.

;¡¸÷,

«ó¾ «À¢Â¢ý ¸Å¢¨¾ «À¡Ãõ. Ò¾¢Â§¸¡½õ¾¡ý. ¿¢¨È§Š¯ñ¨ÁÔõ ܼ!!! ;-)


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¦Ã¡õÀ ¿¡ð¸Ç¡¸¢ÈÐ ¸Å¢¨¾ ¿ñÀ÷¸¨Ç ¾Ã¢º¢òÐ!

"À¸ø §À¡÷ì¸Çõ; þÃ×¾¡ý ºÁ¡¾¡Éõ" - ±ýÚ ´Õ Åâ ÀÊò¾ ¿¢¨É× ÅÕ¸¢ÈÐ.

þó¾ ÁýÈò¾¢ø - ÁüÈ ¾Çí¸Ç¢ý ¦ÅôÀò¨¾ - þó¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾ô Àì¸í¸û¾¡õ ¾½¢ì¸¢ýÈÉ!

¿¡ý ú¢ò¾ º¢Ä ¸Å¢¨¾ / À¡¼ø Åâ¸¨Ç þí§¸ ¾Õ¸¢§Èý :


1. ¸¡¾Ä¢Â¢ý ¸ñ¸û ¸¡¾Ä¨É ÁÂì̸¢ýÈÉ :

" ¯ý ¸ñ¨Á¢ø ¾¡ÉÊ
þÃ× ¯ÕÅ¡ÉÐ"


2. ¸¡¾ø þ¾Âò¨¾§Â ¸Å¢¨¾ì - ¸ÇÁ¡¸ Á¡üȢŢθ¢ÈÐ! :

"±ý þ¾Âõ ´Õ
¦Åû¨Çò¾¡û
«¾¢ø
¯ý ¦À¨à ÁðΧÁ
±Ø¾¢Â¢Õ츢§Èý"


3. þÃñÎ ¸¡¾Ä÷¸û - þÃÅ¢ø ºó¾¢òÐì ¦¸¡û¸¢È¡÷¸û :

"þó¾ þÃÅ¢ø
þÃñÎ ¿ðºò¾¢Ãí¸û
âÁ¢Â¢ø
ºó¾¢òÐì ¦¸¡û¸¢ýÈÉ"


4. ¸¡¾Ä¨Éô À¢Ã¢ó¾ ¸¡¾Ä¢ - ºýɧġÃò¾¢ø Á¨Æ¨Âô À¡÷òÐì ¦¸¡ñ§¼ «ØÐ ¦¸¡ñÊÕ¸¢È¡û :

"þýÚ âÁ¢Â¢ø
þÃñÎ Á¨Æ
Å¢ñ½¢ø þÕóÐ ´Õ Á¨Æ
þÅû
¸ñ½¢ø þÕóÐ ÁÚÁ¨Æ!"

- þ¨Å ¿¡ýÌõ º¢Ä þó¾¢ô À¡¼ø-Åâ¸Ç¢ý ¾Á¢Æ¡ì¸õ


5 . Á¡¨Ä ÁÂí¸¢ÂÀ¢ ºó¾¢ìÌõ ¸¡¾Ä÷¸ÙìÌ - þÂü¨¸§Â ÁÈóÐŢθ¢ÈÐ! :

"þÃÅ¢ý ¸¼Ä¢ø
¿£Ôõ ¿¡Ûõ
¿ðºò¾¢Ãô À¼Ì¸Ç¢ø ºÅ¡Ã¢...."



6. ¸¡¾Ä¢Â¢¼õ - ¸¡¾ÄÉ¢ý §Á¡¸ ÅÕ½¨É :

"¸¼§Ä¡Ã «¨Ä¸¦ÇøÄ¡õ
¯ý ¸¡ø¸ÙìÌî
º¢ÄõÒ¸û ¬¸ðΧÁ"

- þ¨Å þÃñÎõ º¢Ä Á¨ÄÂ¡Ç ¾¢¨ÃôÀ¡¼ø Åâ¸Ç¢ý ¾Á¢Æ¡ì¸õ


7. "¸¢Ä¢Â¡ò Á¨ÄîºÃ¢Å¢§Ä
þÈí¸¢ ÅÕ¸¢ýÈ
¦ÅûÇ¡ðÎ Áó¨¾ §À¡ø
§¾¡ýÚõ
¿¢ý Üó¾ø"

-¸¡¾Ä¢Â¢ý Üó¾ø ÅÕ½¨É, ¨ÀÀ¢û ¸¨¾¸Ç¢Ä¢ÕóÐ


8. "ÌÊôÀÅÛ즸øÄ¡õ
¦º¡÷ì¸Á¢ø¨Ä ±ýÈ¡ø
«Ð
±ý ¯ûÇí¨¸¨Âô §À¡Ä§Å
¸¡Ä¢Â¡Â¢Õó¾¢ÕìÌõ!"

- '¯Á÷¸ö¡õ' ±Ø¾¢Âô À¡Ãº£¸ì ¸Å¢¨¾ Åâ þÐ.

¯Á÷¸ö¡õ º¼í̸¨Çô ¦À⾡¸ ¿¢¨É측¾ Å¡úÅ¢Âø ¾òÐÅ »¡É¢ ±ýÈ- À¢ýÒÄò¾¢Ä¢ÕóÐ À¡÷ò¾¡ø - «ÅÃÐ þó¾ ¨¿Â¡ñÊ ÒâÔõ!...


9. "¸ÕÁ¡¾¢ì¸¡¸
«Å¢ì¸ôÀð¼
ÒÄ¡ø
¸ø¡½ §Á¨ºÂ¢ø
ÀâÁ¡ÈôÀθ¢È§¾¡?"

- þÐ §„ìŠÀ¢Ââý '§†õ¦Äð' ¿¡¼¸ò¾¢ý Åâ¸û

§†õ¦ÄðÊý ¾ó¨¾ þÈóЧÀ¡ÉÀ¢ýÒ, «ÅÕ¨¼Â þÈó¾ Ðì¸ò¨¾ Å¢º¡Ã¢ì¸ Åó¾ - ¦ÅÇ¢¿¡ðÎô À¢ÃÒì¸û - «ôÀʧ §†õ¦ÄðÊý ¾¡Â¢ý ÁÚÁ½ ŢơŢÖõ ¸ÄóÐ ¦¸¡û¸¢È¡÷¸û.

þó¾ Ìåà ¿¢ƒõ ¾¡ì¸¢Â¾¢ø, §†õ¦Äð þùÅ¡Ú Å¢Ãì¾¢ ¸Äó¾ ²ÇÉÁ¡¸ô §À͸¢È¡ý.



10. þÐ ºü§È º¢Õí¸¡ÃÁ¡É Åâ¸û! ÒÐÁ½ò¾õÀ¾¢¸Ç¢ý ¸ÄŢ¢ý Óò¾¡öôÀ¡¸ - þó¾ ¾¢¨ÃôÀ¡¼ø Åâ -

"þÃñÎ ¿¾¢¸û -
þ¨½óÐ ¿¼ìÌõ
Ò¾¢Â «¨Ä¸û
¸¨Ã¨Â ¯¨¼ìÌõ!"

«À¡Ãõ!!! :=)

þÐ ¨ÅÃÓòÐÅ¢ý Åâ¸û.

'¾¨Ä¨Âì ÌÉ¢Ôõ ¾¡Á¨Ã§Â' À¡¼Ä¢ø ÅÕõ Åâ¸Ç¢¨Å (À¼õ : "´Õ µ¨¼ ¿¾¢Â¡¸¢ÈÐ" ).

¿ñÀ÷¸Ùõ þЧÀ¡ø ú¢ò¾ Åâ¸¨Ç ±Ø¾Ä¡§Á!


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kathir, sudhakar et al???

yaarum varliyaa???

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ÒÐÍ
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À¨¼ôÒì ¸¼×û ¾¡Ê ¦º¡È¢óÐ
Àì¸õ þÕó¾ º¸¡Å¢¼õ ¦º¡ýÉ¡÷
'ÒÐÍ ´ñÏ. §ÅÊ쨸 À¡Õõ'.

¾Å¨Ç þ¨Ãîºø ±Øó¾ ÌÇòÐò
¾ñ½£÷ô ÀÃôÀ¢ø ¿¢Æø¾¼õ À¾¢òÐ
þ¨ºóÐ §À¡ÉÐ Àð¼¡õ â.

ÝâÂî ÝÎõ ÑÉ¢ôÒø §¾Ûõ
þȸ¢ø ¾í¸ò ຢÔõ ¦¸¡ñÎ
±ùÅ¢ô ÀÈóÐ §Áü§¸ §À¡¸î
º¢ýÉì ¸£üÈ¡öô Àɢ¢ý àÅø.

¦Åû¨Ç ¯Îò¾ â ¾ý¨É
¯ýɾÁ¡¸ ¯½Ãò ¦¾¡¼í¸¢ì
¸£§Æ À¡÷ì¸î º¢È¢Í¸û º¢ÄÐ.

'±ØóÐ Åÿ¡ý ¬¨½ ±È¢óÐ
±ØÀ¨Å ¾Å¢Ã ÁüÈ ±¾üÌõ
§À¡ìÌ ÅÃòÐ ¯Ã¢¨Á þø¨Ä'.

±õÀ¢ì ̾¢ò¾ â ¾ÉÐ
þÈ쨸 þÃñÎõ ¸ÆüÈ¢ ¯¾¢÷òÐò
¾Å¨Çì ÌÇò¾¢ø ³ì¸¢ÂÁ¡¸¢ô
Ò¾¢Â ¾Å¨Ç¡ö, þÄ츽î Íò¾Á¡ö.

â¨Âô À¡¾¢Â¢ø ¾Å¨Ç¡츢ɡø
Ä¡ƒ¢ì þÊì̧¾ - º¸¡× §¸ð¼¡÷.
¾Å¨Ç¸û ¦º¡øÀʾ¡ý þÐ À¨¼ò§¾ý -
¾¡Å¢ì ̾¢òÐì ¸¼×û ¿¸÷ó¾¡÷.

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;¡¸÷! þó¾ì ¸Å¢¨¾ ¿¡õ §Àº ¬ÃõÀ¢ò¾ ¾¨ÄôÒìÌ ¦¿Õì¸Á¡¸ þÕ󾾡ø - þí§¸ ¯ûÇ¢ð§¼ý. :=)


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:-)

geno,

// (À¢ýÉ! Áñ¼ÀòÐÄ Â¡Ã¡ÅÐ ±Ø¾¢ì ¦¸¡ÎòÐ «¨¾ ¿¡ý þí§¸ ÅóÐ §À¡ð§¼ýÛ ¦¿Éí¸Ç¡??!!!! :-)))) //

- :-)), «ôÀÊ¢ø¨Ä. ¿£í¸û quote ¦ºöÔõ ¸Å¢¨¾¸Ç¢¨¼§Â, ¯í¸Ù¨¼Â¨¾Ôõ «ûÇ¢ò¦¾Ç¢òÐ ¦ºø¸¢È£÷¸Ç¡, «¾¡ý ÌÆõÀ¢ð§¼ý. :-)), «Õ¨Á.

// "¸ÕÁ¡¾¢ì¸¡¸
«Å¢ì¸ôÀð¼
ÒÄ¡ø
¸ø¡½ §Á¨ºÂ¢ø
ÀâÁ¡ÈôÀθ¢È§¾¡?" //

- ¸Äì¸øŠ... :-)

:-)



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¾¢Ã¢¸û ¯Â¢÷ò¾¾¢ø Á¢ì¸ Á¸¢ú.. Á¢ýº¡Ãõ §À¡öÅ¢ðÎò ¾¢ÕõÀ¢ ÅÕõ§À¡Ð «ó¾ Ó¾ø ´Õ ¿¢Á¢¼ò¾¢ý ¿¢õÁ¾¢, Á¢ýÅ¢º¢È¢Â¢ý ÍÆüÈÄ¢ø «¨½ó¾ ¦ÁØÌÅ÷ò¾¢Â¢ý º¢Ú Ò¨¸Â¢ý Å¡º¨É §À¡Ä þÕ츢ÈÐ, þó¾ò ¾¢Ã¢¸û ¾¢ÕõÀ¢Åó¾Ð.


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þò¾¢Ã¢¸û ¯Â¢÷ ¦ÀüȾ¢ø ±ÉìÌõ ¦ÀÕÁ¸¢ú×. ¿£í¸ ±øÄ¡õ ±ØÐŨ¾ô À¡÷òÐô ÀÊò¾ À¢ÃÁ¢ôÒ þýÛõ ¿£í¸¡¾ ¿¢¨Ä¢ø ±ýÉ ±Ø¾ ¿¡ý? þÕôÀ¢Ûõ ÅÕ¸¢§Èý.. ¸ü¸Å¡ÅÐ, µÃ¢Õ ¾¢Éí¸Ç¢ø.


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Hello Geno,
Á¢¸ «Õ¨ÁÂ¡É ¯¾¡Ã½í¸û.Geno!!!! ´ù¦Å¡Õ ¸Å¢¨¾ò ÐÇ¢Ôõ ¦À¡ðÊø «Êò¾Á¡¾¢Ã¢Â¡É ±ÎòÐ측ðÎ. Á¢¸×õ ú¢ò§¾ý ¯í¸û §¾÷׸Ǣý «Õ¨ÁÂ¡É ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀ¡ðʨÉ. À¡Ã¡ðÎì¸û Geno.
PS. þá.Óոɢý ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý À¡¾¢ôÒ ¦ÅÌ¿¡û ±ÉìÌ þÕìÌõ....¿ýÈ¢ Geno. þó¾ «Äºø¸û Á¢¸ ¿ýÈ¡¸ô §À¡ö즸¡ñÊÕ츢ÈÐ. PP Madam, kathir, gajan, shakthi, suresh, malligai... ±í§¸ §À¡Â¢ðËí¸?


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"²§¾¡¦Å¡Õ Å¢¨¼¨Â
±ýÛû Å¡í¸¢Â¾¡ø
±ò¾¨É§Â¡ Ţɡì¸ÙìÌò ¾¡Â¡§Éý.."
«ó¾ Ţɡì¸Ç¢ý ãÄõ §¾Êô §À¡ö즸¡ñÊÕ츢§Èý
(±ý ¦º¡ó¾î §º¡¾¨É¨Ä¨Â §¿¡ì¸¢ -- «À¢)
«¨ÉÅâý §¾¼ø¸Ùõ ´Õ§Å¨Ç þо¡§É¡?


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¬†¡! Å¢¨¼¨Â ¯û Å¡í¸¢Â¡¾¡ø ¯¾¢ìÌõ ÀÄ §¸ûÅ¢¸û!þ¨Èì¸ þ¨Èì¸ °Úõ §¸½¢ §À¡Ä §¸ð¸ì §¸ð¸ ÅÇÕõ »¡É §ÅûÅ¢!


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>> "²§¾¡¦Å¡Õ Å¢¨¼¨Â
±ýÛû Å¡í¸¢Â¾¡ø
±ò¾¨É§Â¡ Ţɡì¸ÙìÌò ¾¡Â¡§Éý..
«ó¾ Ţɡì¸Ç¢ý ãÄõ §¾Êô §À¡ö즸¡ñÊÕ츢§Èý "

«¨ÉÅâý §¾¼ø¸Ùõ ´Õ§Å¨Ç þо¡§É¡? >>

«Õ¨Á¡öî ¦º¡ýÉ£÷¸û! §¸ûÅ¢¸¨Çò §¾Ê¨ÄÔõ À¾¢Ä¸Ùõ,
À¾¢ø¸ÇüÈ §¸ûÅ¢¸Ùõ - ¿¢¨Èó¾ §¾¼ø¸û¾¡ý ÁÉ¢¾Å¡ú쨸¢ý Ìȣ£¼¡¸¢ô§À¡ÉÐ!


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ÌȢ£θÙõ ÀÊÁ¡Éí¸Ùõ ÁðΧÁ þÕ츢Ȧ¾ýÈ¡ø ´Õ¨ÁÂ¡É ¯ñ¨Á ±ýÀÐõ ÌȢ£ξ¡§É?§¾Î¾Öõ §¾¼ôÀÎÅÐõ, §¾ÎÀÅÛõ ÌȢ£¼¡¸¢ÈÐ ±ýÈ¡ø,«¾¨É ¯½÷ÅÐ ÁðΧÁ ¯ñ¨Á¡¸¢ÈÐ There is no objectivity and only subjectivity is the reality - that too is subjective. ( ÌÆõÀ¢ô§À¡ö- ±øÄ¡¨ÃÔõ ÌÆôÒ¸¢§Èý!!! ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ.). þÐ º¡÷ò¾Ã¢ý Existentialism(being and nothingness) Àü颃 º¡ÃÁ¡Ì§Á¡? «È¢ó¾Å÷¸û ¦º¡øÄÄ¡§Á?
Geno þ¨¾ìÌÈ¢òÐ ¯í¸û Å¢Çì¸ò¨¾ ±¾¢÷À¡÷츢§Èý ( ÅÆì¸õ §À¡Ä «Õ¨Á¡ý ¯¾¡Ã½í¸Ù¼ý!!!)


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;¡¸÷!

¿£í¸û ¦º¡øÅÐ ¬úóÐ º¢ó¾¢ì¸ §ÅñÊ Ţ¼Âõ! ¿¢¨È "º¢ó¾¨Éò àñÊø¸û" §¾¨ÅôÀθ¢ÈÐõ ܼ!

«Õ¨Á¡¸ - ¬ÆÁ¡¸ - §Â¡º¨É¨Âò àñÊ¢Õ츢ýÈ£÷¸û!

¦¸¡ïºõ ¸¡Äõ §¾¨ÅôÀÎõ §À¡Ä! :=))


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Sudhakarrr!!!

//There is no objectivity and only subjectivity is the reality - that too is subjective. ( ÌÆõÀ¢ô§À¡ö- ±øÄ¡¨ÃÔõ ÌÆôÒ¸¢§Èý!!! ÁýÉ¢ì¸×õ.). þÐ º¡÷ò¾Ã¢ý Existentialism(being and nothingness) Àü颃 º¡ÃÁ¡Ì§Á¡? //

--mmm..normal ÌÆôÀòÐìÌ ÁýÉ¢ôÒ ¯ñÎ...¬É þó¾ «Ç×ìÌ ÌÆôÀ¢É¡, ¯í¸ÙìÌ ÁýÉ¢ô§À ¸¢¨¼Â¡Ð!!..«Ð×õ 'Existentialism'??..no chance!!

:))


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«¾¡ý ÁýÉ¢ôÒ §¸ð§¼É¢øÄ... Å¢ðÎÕí¸ ¾¡Â£... ¦¾Ã¢Â¡ò¾ÉÁ¡ º¡÷ò¾¨ÃôÀüÈ¢ §Àº¢ð§¼ý. geno ±Ø¾¢É ¸Å¢¨¾Ä Å÷à ±§¾¡¦Å¡Õ À¢û¨Ç¡÷ ÓýÉ¡Ä §¾¡ôÒì¸Ã½õ §À¡ðÎ츧Èý. §À¡ÐÁ¡!


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I have read in Introduction to Being and Nothingness.. The Descartes principle " I think ,therefore I am " is actually " I am aware that I think, therefore I am" as it can be proved that one has to be aware of his/her existence to be aware of anything. Thus any consciousness is basically self consciousness.. This is the basis on which "The Being " is approached in Sartre.
This logic works well for the subjectivity of the statement.
But then what is objective? Even if I do not think of the existence of the moon - it exists. Hence there has to be something apart from the consciousness of an object...
( §º... ¦Ã¡õÀ ÌÆôÒ¸¢ÈÐ.!!!!)
þ¨¾ §Àº¡Áø §Å¦È¡Õ ¾¢Ã¢Â¡¸ þ𼡦ÄýÉ? ´Õò¾Õõ ¾ôÀ¢ò¾ÅÈ¢ô§À¡öìܼ ±ðÊôÀ¡÷ì¸Á¡ð¼¡÷¸û!!


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//þ¨¾ §Àº¡Áø §Å¦È¡Õ ¾¢Ã¢Â¡¸ þ𼡦ÄýÉ? ´Õò¾Õõ ¾ôÀ¢ò¾ÅÈ¢ô§À¡öìܼ ±ðÊôÀ¡÷ì¸Á¡ð¼¡÷¸û!!//

hahaha...what a great idea!! :))

but i atleast learned a new word 'Existentialism'..)





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test

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anthe malligai pookkalukkum un kavithaiyai pidittirukkirathu polum. athanaal thaan unnai paartu sirikkindrane... nice kavithai! vaaltukkal!!!

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SURESH ,TT and Geno,
the discussions we have in other threads have inspired me to write on the poetry on this thread which we had been doing some time ago.
TT had rightly said that the poetry has to be straight and simple. Infact it is the most difficult thing to do... It has tobe spontaneous flow from the heart and it requies a perfect combination of words and emotions.
Kuiryeedu and Padimam can be challenging and it is possible to write on them with some level of expertise. How one can have expertise on spontaneity?

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This reminds me of an english poem
have read this small poem in a Quotable Quotes book
"Jenny Kissed me....
springing from a wooden chair...

Time , you thief
who would like to snatch everything...

say I am wary
say I am sad,
say health and wealth have missed me
but add...
Jenny kissed me

such a small and simple poem - straight from the heart - having a profound impact on those who read.
very similar to the poem by Pablo Neruda 'thanking a lady who spun a pair of socks for him.
Sorry for the english in this... My tamil fonts have really not working...
with regards
Srimangai

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sudhakar!

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