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Topic started by tiruttakkan (krishnamurthys@epatra.com) (@ 202.56.220.58) on Sat Apr 17 12:16:03 EDT 2004.




±ý À¨Æ ¾¢Ã¢¨Âì ¸¡½Å¢ø¨Ä.Ò¾¢Â ¾¢Ã¢ ¦¾¡¼í¸ì ¸ð¼¡Âô ÀðÎû§Çý.ÁüÈÀÊ «§¾ Á¡¾¢Ã¢ ¸Äì¸ø(¸ÄôÀ¼õ) øÁ¡¸ì ¸Å¢¨¾¸û þÕìÌõ.

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Old responses (http://forumhub.com/poems/19853.8573.12.16.03.html)

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>>¿¢ƒõ ±ôÀÊ þÕìÌõ?
§À¡Ä¢¸Ç¢¼õ ²Á¡óо¡ý ¦¾Ã¢Ô§Á¡? >>

"º¢¨Ä¢ý «ÆÌ ¯¨¼Àð¼ ¸øÄ¢ø þÕ츢ÈÐ" ±ýÀ¡÷¸û. þЧÀ¡Ä ±øÄ¡ þ¼í¨¸Öõ 'ÓÃñ'¾¡ý Å¡úÅ¢ý ƒ£Å¿¡¾Á¡¸ ´Ä¢òÐ즸¡ñÊÕ츢ȧ¾¡?

Å¢Ç츢ÉÊ¢ø ¸Å¢óÐ ¸¢¼ìÌõ þÕû §À¡Ä, ÓÃñ¾¡ý ±íÌõ Ţ¡À¢ò¾¢Õ츢ȧ¾¡? Matter and Anti-Matter - þÂü¨¸ô À¢ÃÀïºò¾¢ý º¡ÃÁ¡¸ þÕôÀÐ §À¡Ä - «¸Å¢Âø À¢ÃÀïºò¾¢ý º¡ÃÓõ ÓÃñ¾¡§É¡?


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¾¢Õò¾õ :

"º¢¨Ä¢ý «ÆÌ ¯¨¼Àð¼ ¸øÄ¢ø þÕ츢ÈÐ" ±ýÀ¡÷¸û.
«Ð§À¡Ä ±øÄ¡ þ¼í¸Ç¢Öõ - 'ÓÃñ'¾¡ý Å¡úÅ¢ý ƒ£Å¿¡¾Á¡¸
´Ä¢òÐ즸¡ñÊÕ츢ȧ¾¡?


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´÷ ³Âõ : þÃñ¼¡ÅÐ ¸Å¢¨¾Â¢ý ¾¨ÄôÒ -
"¯¨È¸ø"¾¡É¡? «øÄÐ "¯¨Ã¸ø"-¬?
- ¯ûÇ¢Îõ§À¡Ð ¾ð¼îÍôÀ¢¨Æ §¿÷ó¾¢Õ츢ÈÐ.


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TT,
«Õ¨ÁÂ¡É ¸Å¢¨¾!!! ÓÃñ¸Ç¢ø «¿¡ºÂÁ¡¸ Å¢¨Ç¡Ê¢Õ츢ȣ÷¸û.
"¿¢ƒõ ±ôÀÊ þÕìÌõ?
§À¡Ä¢¸Ç¢¼õ ²Á¡óо¡ý ¦¾Ã¢Ô§Á¡? " - µ.. ±ùÅÇ× ¬ÆÁ¡É, ¦À¡Õû Ò¨¾ó¾ Å¡÷ò¨¾¸û!

Å¡úóÐ ¾£Ã§ÅñÊ ÅÄ¢,
ÅÊžü¸¡¸§Å ¸ñ½£Ã¡¸ì
¸ñ¸Ç¢ý ¸¨Ã¸¨Çò ¦¾¡ðÎÅ¢ðÎ,
ÅÆ¢ «¨¼ò¾¢ÕôÀ¾¡ø ¾¢ÕõÀÅóÐ,
þ¾Âò¨¾ô À¢¨ºóÐ,¸ºì¸¢ô À¢Æ¢óÐ....

À¢ÃÁ¡¾õ! þÂì¸ò¾¢ý ÅÄ¢¨Á¨Â, ÅÄ¢¨Â «Æ¸¡¸ì ¸¡ðÊ¢Õ츢ȣ÷¸û. ¦ÅÌ¿¡Ç¡¸¢Å¢ð¼Ð, þôÀÊ Åâ¸¨Ç «ÛÀÅ¢òÐ Å¡º¢òÐ...
¿ýÈ¢ TT
«ýÒ¼ý
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:-)

«ôÀ¡¼¡... ¸Å¢¨¾ ¦¸¡ïºõ Ò⸢ÈÐ. :-)

¿ýÈ¢ ƒ¢§É¡, ‚Áí¨¸.

:-)


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// ÅÊžü¸¡¸§Å ¸ñ½£Ã¡¸ì
¸ñ¸Ç¢ý ¸¨Ã¸¨Çò ¦¾¡ðÎÅ¢ðÎ
ÅÆ¢ «¨¼ò¾¢ÕôÀ¾¡ø ¾¢ÕõÀÅóÐ,
þ¾Âò¨¾ô À¢¨ºóÐ,¸ºì¸¢ô À¢Æ¢óÐ.... // enbathil..

// ÅÆ¢ «¨¼ò¾¢ÕôÀ¾¡ø ¾¢ÕõÀÅóÐ.. // engira vari ungal kavi thiramaikku satchi.

ungallu mattum niraya neram irundhal, innum azagaga niraya ezudhuveergal ena thondrugiradhu. we await with eagerness.

// §À¡Ä¢ìÌ «¨¼Â¡Ç¦ÁýÉ ±ýÚ
¿¡ý §¸ð¼§À¡Ð ´ÕÅý ¦º¡ýÉ¡ý:
‘¿¢ƒò¨¾Å¢¼ «Æ¸¡¸ì ¸¡ðº¢ ¾Õõ’
¿¢ƒõ ±ôÀÊ þÕìÌõ?
§À¡Ä¢¸Ç¢¼õ ²Á¡óо¡ý ¦¾Ã¢Ô§Á¡? // hats off!


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suresh,

that was sarcastic..? between u and me: this jeeno has a knack of finding meanings which were not originally intended(this time he is spot on).u should go by what u understand.my idea is that a poem should be understood straight without a 'parimelazhagar'.

jeeno,

ur comments are classy.thanks for the review.

sudhaakar,

i have taken this style of addressing each one individually from u.thanks for the review.u and jeeno are so regular in assessing others' poems ,it really pleases to post here.

kathir,

seeing u after some time.i will live under the impression that i would have made it real big had i not been this busy.thanks for the evaluation.

tiruttakkan

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:-)

tt,

i had never been sarcastic. i am in the process of learning tamil. i need guidance and i have got it from some good people over here. i dont think anything wrong in that. :-)

// u should go by what u understand.my idea is that a poem should be understood straight without a 'parimelazhagar'. //

- sure.... one day or other, i would write my clear comments on my clear understanding of your poem. but definitely not now. waiting for that day... :-))

i understand geno's poem better than anybody else. kajan's poem has NO CHANCE of me understanding. :-( some of your poems are above my heads, and the above poem is one such. so, pardon me, for riding on others shoulder. :-)

:-)

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suresh,
What I like the most is the candidness with which you make your statements. There is absolutely no issues with your understanding. Poetry is very subjective. What seems like a poem to you may not be of my taste and vice versa.
But, a Parimelazhagar is needed to put new dimensions for understanding and feeling. Otherwise a Thirukural would not be so interesting as it is now.
The styles differ from person to person and the challenge is to appreciate the inner feelings of the poet and the poem.

Your comments are very lively and your padivam type of poetry ( no 11) is an example of your taste..
Anpudan
srimangai

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sudhakar,
>> Poetry is very subjective. What seems like a poem to you may not be of my taste and vice versa. >>

You are correct 100% and for that matter any kind of 'Art' is subjective.

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suresh,

no offence meant.you are one of the few people who have been consistently evaluating my work.so carry on the way you do.with what sudhakar has said, i stand corrected to the extent that there is a joy in understanding a poem straight but surely there is another kind of joy when a parimelazhagar leads you there.NOTHING AT ALL IS WRONG.
for the purpose of evaluation,if you could give your view on the basis of your appreciation or otherwise,that will be a great feedback!THANKS A LOT COMING BACK WITH FRANK RESPONSE.

TIRUTTAKKAN

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tk,

That poetry was like reading a short-story!

Amazing story inside poetic shell...

goodluck

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ÀƦÁ¡Æ¢ Á¡Ú§¾¡? "¬ñ Òò¾¢ À¢ý Òò¾¢"!!!


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TT
´Õ Å¢ÊÂÖ측¸ ÀÃÀÃôÀ¨¾, Å£½¡É ÓÂüº¢¸¨Ç Á£ñÎõ Á£ñÎõ §Áü¦¸¡ûŨ¾
Å¢ÊÔõ §À¡Ð¾¡ý Å¢ÊÔõ
±ýÀ¨¾ «Åý «È¢Â¡¾ÅÉ¡?
É¡Öõ, Ţʠ¨ÅìÌõ
ÓÂüº¢¸¨Ç Å¢¼ ÓÊÔÁ¡?
±É Å÷½¢ôÀÐ ¾í¸û Óò¾¢¨Ã...
¯í¸û ¸Å¢¨¾¸¨Ç §ÁÄ¢ÕóÐ À¡÷ôÀ¾¢ø ¯ûÇ ±Ç¢¨Á , ´Õ ¯û§¿¡ì¸¢ø ºÅ¡Ä¡¸.. ±ó¾ Å¢Ç쨸 ±ÎòÐô §À¡¸¢§È¡§Á¡ «¾ý ´Ç¢ º¢¾ÈÄ¢ø, Åñ½ò¾¢ø ÁðΧÁ ¸¡Ïõ limitation-¸Ç¢ø ÁðΧÁ ¸ðÎôÀÊÅ÷ Å¡º¢ôÀÅ÷.
±ý¨Éô ¦À¡Úò¾ÇÅ¢ø, ¸¨¼º¢ ¿¡ÖÅâ¸Ç¢ø º¢ó¾¢ì¸ ¨ÅòÐÅ¢ðË÷¸û. ¯í¸û ¸Å¢¨¾¸Ç¢ý ¸Õì¸Ç¢ý º¢ìì¨Ä ²§¾¡ µÃ¢Õ Åâ¸Ç¢ø ÍðÊŢθ¢È£÷¸û. «Ð ¦ÀÕõ «ÅŠ¨¾Â¡¸¢ÈÐ. «Ð¾¡ý ¯í¸û ¦ÅüÈ¢.ÁÚÀÊÔõ «ÅŠ¨¾ôÀ¼ ¨ÅòÐÅ¢ðË÷¸û.
Å¡úòÐì¸û.¿ýÈ¢¸û.
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¦ÅÇ¢îºò¾¢üÌ ÅÕžüÌ ÀÎõÀ¡Î ¦Åð¼¦ÅÇ¢îºÁ¡¸¢ÈÐ. Å¢ÊÂÖõ ÁÉõ¨Å츧ÅñΧÁ ±ýÈ ¾Å¢ôÒõ ¦¾Ã¢¸¢ÈÐ. ¯ñ¨Á¾¡ý. «¾ü¸¡Áø ÓÂÄ¡Áø þÕì¸×õÓÊ¡Ð...

«Õ¨Á.

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shakthi,
thanks.did u say i should have posted it in the story section!?
pp,
nothing to celebrate as yet.consolation could be that i don't subscribe to the proverb taking a dig at women!
sudhaakar,
well.we are developing a lot of mutual respect for each other's poems.hope this will not bias our critical acclaim.when u don't like my poem, i am sure u'll say so.
suresh,
thanks.
thiruththakkan

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Hello TT,
I would not hesitate to praise something if it is really good. It is easy to criticize the "so called grey areas" - which actually would be the gap in understanding and feeling what is read and what is written. I would tread with a bit of caution and self introspection when something has not given an impact. Please be assured from me - I would ask for a clarification if I have not felt a poetry in your words. Please keep up the good work. This is one place where one can read REAL poetry... Iam not sure of my contribution - hope I have done something!( no avaiyadakkam.. only a cautious pessimism!)
anpudan
srimangai

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«Åû ¨¸ ÀüÈ¡¾ §À¡¦¾øÄ¡õ ±ý ¨¸ ¿ÎíÌÅÐ ÌǢâø¾¡§É?
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«Åû þ¾ú ®Ãõ þøÄ¡¾ §À¡Ð ±ý þ¾ú ¯Ä÷ÅÐ ¾¡¸ó¾¡§É?
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±ý¨Éô À¡÷òÐì ¸¡¾ø Àð¼¡Â¡ ±ýÈ¡§Ç?
±ý ¿¡Å¢ø §ÅÚ ¦ÀÂ÷ Åá¾Ð ±ý ¸øÅ¢ì ̨Ⱦ¡§É?
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Á¢ýÉ¢ÂÐõ «¨½ò§¾§É !«îºô ÀÎÅ¡§Ç ±ýÚ¾¡§É?
«Åû ¸ñ º¢Á¢ð¼×õ «¨½ò§¾§É! Á¢ýÛ¸¢È§¾ þÊì̧Á
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«Åû Üó¾¨Ä Ó¸÷óÐ §ÀýÈ¢ þÕ󧾧É!
«Ð þÂü¨¸ Á½Á¡ ±ýÈ Ã¡ö¾¡§É?
«Åû š¢ý §Áø Å¡ö ¨ÅòÐ ¯È¢ïº¢ÂÐ
«Åû Å¡÷ò¨¾ ¿Âõ ±ÉìÌõ ÅÕ§Á¡ ±ýÈ ºÀÄõ¾¡§É?
þýÚ «Åû À¢Ã¢ó¾ §¿Ãõ ãýÈ¢ ¿¡ý ƒ¼Á¡É§¾ý ?
«Åû àÃî ¦ºýÈ §¿Ãõ ÐÊôÀ¢ýÈ¢ ¦¿ïºõ ¿¢ýȧ¾ý?
«Åû ¿¢¨É× ¯Â¢Ã¡É§¾ý?«Åû ¦¿Õì¸õ ÁðÎõ Å¡úšɧ¾ý?
¸¡¾§Ä¡ ±ýÚ þýÚ ³ÂÁ¡É§¾ ¯¼ÖìÌ.
¯Â¢¨Ãò ¾ÕÅ¡Ç¡ ? ¸¡¾Ä¢ì¸ §ÅñÎõ!!!

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vazakkam pOl viraka thaapam enRu thaLLivida mudiyaatha aLavu ovvoru muRaiyum oru puthukk kONam. "viraga vEnthar" enRu pattam kOdukkalaam enRaal 'pattam koduthE' pEr vaangupavar enRu yaarEnum eLLak koodum.

kaN ketta pin soorya namaskaaramah?! aLLathu kaN ketta pin thaan, anRu kaNdathu sooriyanai thaan enRu purinthathaa?!
udalaal kaathalithu vittu, inRu udal mattum kaathalikkavillai enRu uNarntheera?!
ungaL uyir thEdalil 'mozivanmai' vazakkam pOl minnugirathu.

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akil,

thanks.as this is not my personal experience,i have not answered your questions.as for my hero's experience , you understand the whole story afterall!
pp,
thanks.
tiruttakkan

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tk,

«Åû ¿¢¨É× ¯Â¢Ã¡É§¾ý?«Åû ¦¿Õì¸õ ÁðÎõ Å¡úšɧ¾ý?
¸¡¾§Ä¡ ±ýÚ þýÚ ³ÂÁ¡É§¾ ¯¼ÖìÌ.
¯Â¢¨Ãò ¾ÕÅ¡Ç¡ ? ¸¡¾Ä¢ì¸ §ÅñÎõ!!!
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¸¨¼º¢Â¢ø ´òЦ¸¡ñ¼¡÷ ¦À¡Ä! ¸¡¾Ä¡ þø¨Ä¡ ±ýÈ º÷¢§Ä§Â ¸¡Äõ ¸¼óРŢθ¢È§¾¡?

±ÉìÌ ´Õ ºó§¾¸õ....

¸¡¾Ä¢ý «Øò¾Óõ, ¬ÆÓõ, §º÷¾Ä¢ø «¾¢¸õ ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀθ¢È¾¡?
À¢Ã¢Å¢ø «¾¢¸õ ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀθ¢È¾¡?



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well shakthi! when it comes to writing a poem you can presume one point of view and just go ahead with that.otherwise, generalising anything like feelings arising out of a phenomenally subjective matter like love ...difficult..eh?
separation pains-separation heels.proximity bonds-proximity bores.anything is possible...?!!!
tiruttakkan

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TT,
§¸ûÅ¢¸Ùõ, «¾ë§¼ À¾¢ø¸ÙÁ¡É í¸û ¸Å¢¨¾ Óò¾¢¨Ã ¿ýÈ¡¸ Åó¾¢Õ츢ÈÐ. ¬Â¢Ûõ something is missing... «Øò¾Á¡,«ýÈ¢ «Äºø¸ÙìÌ ¾¡í¸û §¸ûÅ¢ì ÌÈ¢¦ÂýÈ àñÊø¸Ç¢ø ¾Õõ þ¨Ã¸Ç¡¦ÅÉ ¦¾Ç¢Å¡¸ò ¦¾Ã¢ÂÅ¢ø¨Ä.
´Õ§Å¨Ç ¯í¸ÇÐ ±øÄ¡ì¸Å¢¨¾¸Ç¢Öõ ´§ÃÁ¡¾¢Ã¢Â¡É Ţɡ츨Çò §¾Î¸¢§È§É¡ ±ýɧš?
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separation pains-separation heels.proximity bonds-proximity bores.anything is possible...?!!!

seperation never heals tk.
If u are in love with any person (i mean anyy.. like mom, dad friend etc.) it never HEALS.

May be if its seperation needed from someone who is torturing us or boring us.. it does not happen until we HEEL ;) :P Just kidding :))

Proximity again never bores, if its the question of someone we love. Here we are talkin bout ppl who love.

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TT sir.. that poem doesn't cohesively express whatever feeling it was intended to portray.. but such confused moments are possible in love. unga hero-vin nilai appadi. :))

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thanks sudhakar,thanks kathir,

thanks for the critical evaluation!

shakti,

well! absolute love-absolute detachment...something in between....what to discuss...?
i liked the pun on heel/heal(typo was pointed out pretty well)

tiruttakkan

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¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý,

¿øÄ ¸Å¢¨¾¸û. º¢Ã¢ì¸¨ÅòÐ º¢ó¾¢ì¸¨ÅìÌõ Ũ¸Â¡¸ þøÄ¡Áø, ӾĢø º¢ó¾¢ì¸¨ÅòÐ À¢ÈÌ º¢Ã¢ì¸¨ÅòÐ Á£ñÎõ º¢ó¾¢ì¸¨Åò¾Ð.

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lol tk good twists.

I guess the second kavithai is for me :))

I enjoyed the last one esp..

I remember in some movie..

the dialogues goes this way..

A:"I know I can never be wrong"
B:"Lol, U have never changed"
A:"Yeah! why should u change something which is already perfect!"

:)

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100ÅÐ þ¼ò¾¢ø¾¡ý þÕ츢§Èý
±ýÚ ¦¾Ã¢Â¡¾ÅÉ¡ ±ýÉ?
99 þ¼í¸û §Á§Ä ¿¢ÃõÀ¡Áø
¸¢¼ôÀÐ ±ý ÌüÈÁ¡?

- Simply superb. What a humility!! Eppadi vara mudiyum? There is no space between the upper margin and your name ! :))


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thanks surEsh!

thanks shakthi!

kathir-please don't consider any one of my poems as my personal opinion or experience.see it as a kavithai.i am not that conceited . though modesty is not a trait i am generally associatd with, i know my inadequacies to a fair degree.i am happy the way i am,but by no stretch of imagination i deserve your exaggerated appreciation!

tiruttakkan

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pp,

thanks!

¾ýÉõÀ¢ì¨¸-¾¨Äì ¸Éõ,ÁÉ ¯Ú¾¢-À¢ÊÅ¡¾õ,Å¢ðÎì ¦¸¡Îò¾ø-¾¢¼Á¢ý¨Á,¦Áý¨Á-ÅÄ¢¨Á¢ý¨Á,ÀìÌÅõ-¦Áò¾Éõ.. .. ..
þôÀÊî ¦º¡øÄ¢ô §À¡¸Ä¡õ.¦ÅüÈ¢ ¦ÀüÈÅ÷¸û ¦Áò¾ô ÀÊò¾Å÷¸û.¦ÅüÈ¢ ¦ÀÈ¡¾Å÷¸û ²ðÎî ͨÃ측ö¸û!Ó¾ø øõ ¸¼×û Àì¾÷¸û-þÃñ¼¡ÅÐ À¡º¡íÌì ¸¡Ã÷¸û.

selvam,

¾í¸û ÅÃ× ¿øÅÚ̸!¯í¸û À¡Ã¡ðÎìÌ ¿ýÈ¢.¿£í¸û ;¡¸Ã¢ý ¾¢Ã¢¦Â¡ýÈ¢ø þðÎûÇ (ÅÄ¢ô Òò¾¸õ) À¡Ã¡ðÎìÌõ, ¨Å츢ý ¾¢Ã¢Â¢ø ¾óÐûÇ þÄì¸½î §º¨Åì¸¡É À¡Ã¡ðÎìÌõ ¿ýÈ¢.

Á£ñÎõ ºó¾¢ô§À¡õ!!!

¾¢Õò¾ì¸ý


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TT sir. What I meant to say was, in the list of top-10 or top-5,whatever it might be, u r at the top and none of us can easily wriggle into the space above ur name. I am of the opinion u deserve to be held in high esteem by us all and u r being unduly modest. I am sad about the confusion. :(

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TT,
I am impressed by the questioning power of yours.. It has an enviable depth and challenging. I look at it as an individual's challenge to grapple with his own's queries and his awareness of his self...( the last poem ).
Good ones TT.
anpudan
srimangai

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well kathir! u have been uniformly good to me.thanks!
´Õ ÌÆôÒÓõ þø¨Ä! sweet words galore! i am delighted to be in the company of all of you!

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þó¾ò ¾¢Ã¢ôÀì¸ò¨¾ô À¡Õí¸û :

"thirumbiya pinnum" -
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OH TT!!!
what a depth .. what a poem?!!!!¦Á¡Æ¢¦ÀÂ÷ôÀ¢ø «ºò¾¢Å¢ðË÷¸û.. ¸ƒø¸Ç¢ø þó¾ ÅÄ¢¸Ç¢ý ¬Æí¸¨Ç «ÛÀÅ¢òÐû§Çý.. ±ý Á¨ÉŢ¢¼õ ÀÄÓ¨È ¦º¡øĢ¢Õ츢§Èý.. "þó¾ì¸Å¢¨¾¸¨Ç ¾Á¢Æ¢ø ¦Á¡Æ¢¦ÀÂ÷ôÀÐ «ùÅÇ× ÍÄÀÁøÄ..ºÃ¢Â¡¸ ¦Á¡Æ¢¦ÀÂ÷ì¸ôÀð¼¡ø ±ùÅÇ× «üÒ¾Á¡¸ þÕìÌõ?!" ±ýÚ. ±ÉÐ «í¸Ä¡öôÒ¸ÙìÌ ´Õ «¨½¸ðÊ Å¢ðË÷¸û.. Á¢ì¸ ¿ýÈ¢ «ö¡!!! ¦ÅÌ ¿¡û¸ÙìÌô À¢ý ¸ñ½£÷Áø¸ ´Õ ¸Å¢¨¾ ÀÊì¸ò¾ó¾¾üÌ...
§ÁÖõ þЧÀ¡ýÈ ¸Å¢¨¾¸¨Ç ¦Á¡Æ¢¦ÀÂ÷òÐò ¾¡Õí¸û
"À¢È ¿¡ðÎ ¿øÄÈ¢ï»÷ º¡ò¾¢Ãí¸û ¾Á¢ú ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø ¦ÀÂ÷¾ø §ÅñÎõ"
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geno,

well!you stand vindicated!
thanks for the review(kaNNeeril line is mine and not a part of the moolam).

sudhakar,

thanks ! i'll attempt some more thazuval.

tiruttakkan

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¦Á¡Æ¢¦ÀÂ÷ôÀ¢§Ä§Â þò¾¨É «ÆÌ!! 1, 3 «üÒ¾õ. We'd all be happy to find more of it here..


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thanks kathir!

tiruttakkan

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:-)

just to prevent from getting into archives...:-)

:-)

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thanks suresh!

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well! dministration...?

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admistration please!

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..

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Please continue the discussion everyone. Let us hope the admins soon restore the threads.

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thiruththakkan avargaL meendum viraivil varuka!

:=)

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yup
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