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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

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The following is a list of MKT songs. I just added the raaga information from this thread. Some details are still missing, feel free to correct or add to it.

There are two collections available from EMI, 1) Ringing Voice of MKT and 2) Golden Greats of MKT. There is significant overlap between the two collections, but these two are the only ones that are easily available. Not sure if the "custom" recording places have access to more LPs of MKT.

One more thing to note is that the songs in the tapes/CDs are slightly different from the ones that appear in the movie. The reason I guess is the restriction imposed by the capacity of the LP. The songs in the tapes are the shorter versions usually.

MKT's first movie was in 1934 - "Pavalakodi". He had a double role in "Sathyaseelan". His biggest hit was "Haridas" in 1944 (ran more than 2 years at one center). He still had a couple of movies after Independence ("Rajamukthi" in '48). Does anyone have any info on what happened to MKT after that and what was his last movie?

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Song: Ambaa Manam Kanindhu Unadhu Kadai Kannpaar
Film: Sivakavi
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Pantuvaraali

Song: Ananda Natana
Film: Sivakami
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: K V Mahadevan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Annaiyum Thandhayum
Film: Haridas
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Chenchuruthi

Song: Arava Maram
Film: Sivakami
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: K V Mahadevan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Arputha Leelaikal
Film: Sivakami
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: K V Mahadevan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Bhoomiyil Maanida Jenmam
Film: Ashok Kumar
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Sindhu Bhairavi

Song: Chandra Suryar
Film: Ambikapathy
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Chidambara Naatha
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Ragam: ??

Song: Dheena Karuna Karane
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Dhyaname Enadhu Manadhu Niraindhadhu
Film: Ashok Kumar
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Kapi

Song: En Udal Thanil, Ammaiyappa Ungal Anbai
Film: Haridas
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Kaanda, Atana, Jonpuri

Song: Gnana Sabayil
Film: Sivakami
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: K V Mahadevan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Gnanakkan Ondru
Film: Chinthamani
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Jonpuri

Song: Krishna Mukundaa Murare
Film: Haridas
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Navroz

Song: Maanida Janmam Meendum Vandhidumo
Film: Raja Mukthi
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: C R Subbaraman
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Kamas

Song: Maname Nee Eesan Naamathai
Film: Ashok Kumar
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Kunthalavaraali

Song: Manmatha Leelaiyai Vendraar Undo?
Film: Haridas
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Charukesi

Song: Maraivai Pudhaitha
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Darbar

Song: Nattiya Kalaiye
Film: Sivakavi
Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Natakurunji

Song: Oru Naal Oru Pozhuthu
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Kamas

Song: Pavazha Maal
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Radhe Unakku Kovam Aagathadi
Film: Chinthamani
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Chenchuruthi

Song: Rajan Maharajan
Film: Shyamala
Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: G S Roya Sundaram
Ragam: Huseini

Song: Sara Sarangal
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Sathva Guna Bodhan
Film: Ashok Kumar
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Jonpuri

Song: Sivaperumaan Krupai Vendum
Film: Naveena Sarangatara
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Suruthi

Song: Sollupappa
Film: Sathya Seelan
Star: M K T & M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: ??
Lyric: Janakam Kavikunjaram
Ragam: ??

Song: Soppana Vaazhivil
Film: Sivakavi
Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Sivaranjani, Vijayanaagari

Song: Suttum Vizhichudarthaan
Film: Puthuvaazhvu
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: ??
Lyric: Bharathiyar
Ragam: ??

Song: Thillayil Nayakane
Film: Sivakami
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: K V Mahadevan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Un Azhakai
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: ??

Song: Unnai Kandu Mayangatha Pergal Undo
Film: Ashok Kumar
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Bhairavi

Song: Vallalai Paadum Vaazhyaal
Film: Sivakavi
Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Chenchuruti

Song: Vasantha Ruthu
Film: Sivakavi
Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar, S Jayalakshmi
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Vasantha, Kunthalavarali,
YadhukulaKambhoji, Suruthi

Song: Vathaname Chandra Bimbamo Malarndha Sarojamo
Film: Sivakavi
Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: G Ramanathan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Sindhu Bhairavi

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Additions in/to Satish's list

1. Pavazhal maal varai - Ragas Bairavi, Kalyani and Manirangu

2. Gnaana sabayil - SArangA?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Satish:

You are probably right about Rajamukthi being
the last movie by MKTB. The MD was CRSubbaraman.

An interesting digression...

CRS was keen to make MKTB sing in his music
and he got this chance first in 1945, in the
movie, UdhayaNan-Vaasavadhaththai in
which MKTB and Vasundhra Dhevi were chosen as
hero-heroine. CRS was so excited, made the tunes,
and all was set to record MKTB's voice for the
first time under CRS. At that moment MKTB was
urgently called outside by a friend and MKTB
had to leave in a hurry without recording that
song. Half hour later they got the news that
MKTB was arrested in connection with Lakshmikanthan
murder case. It later turned out that GNB was
replaced as the hero for that same movie and
CRS was also replaced by CSJeyaraman (yes, the
same pokkaivaai pugazh CSJ) as MD! CRS had to wait
till 1948 when MKTB was released from prison
and when MKTB produced his own movie, Rajamukthi, to
record MKTB's voice under his music. There is one
more popular song in that movie (apart from
maanida janmam that you mentioned above):

unaiyallaamal oru thurumbasaiyumO

It seems this song is in Saramathi raagam.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Satish,

I think 'unnazhagaik kANa iru kaNgaL pOthAthE' is in Madhyamavathi.

Sollu paappaa is in Punnagavarali.
Chandra suriyar is in Maand.

Regards

G.Ramaswamy

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Satish:

Many thanks for the song list. Do you know if these EMI compilations are available in the US?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Ramaswamy, Suresh:
Thank you for the information on the MKT and MMDD songs. It's a fabulous voyage of discovery once we acquire a taste and appreciation for the music of these "retro"(?) periods of TFM!

Satish:
Thank you for the compilation--I need to check my collection for missing numbers.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

ammaiyappA ungaL anbai maRandhEn from haridAs
vaLLalai pAdum vAyAl from sivakavi

haridAs and sivakavi had a lot of songs many of them did not make it to cassettes/LPs. If you want all of MKT's songs you will need the video cassette.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sorry guys, both the songs have been mentioned !

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Satish's list has ??? for MD and rAgam for Bharadhi's chuttum vizhich chudarthAn kaNNammA from MKT's pudhuvAzhvu. Bharadhi has specified chenjurutti as the rAgam for this kavidhai. Does anyone know if MKT sang it in chenjurutti?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Kanchana,

I dont think MKT's version of 'suttum vizhi' is in senchurutti. (again, I could be wrong :-) )

His version goes something like this :

suttum vizhi
d2 s+ p d2

chudarthaan
m1 p m1 g3

kannamma
s g3 p...

suriya
p.. p p

chandiraro
m1 p d2.. m1 p...

(Of course the above doesnt portray the gamakams at kannamma and chandiraro)

Regards

G.Ramaswamy

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Ramaswamy:
I guess the MD for that movie decided to overlook Bharadhi's designated rAgam for chuttum vizhi. I've always been curious how many of our MDs have stuck to the rAgams specified by Bharadhi for his kavidhaigaL while bringing them to TFM, but I digress here :-) Thank you.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

the song arputha leelaigalai appears to be in Madhyamavathi and dheena karunakarane is in behag

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sathya Keerthi:
As per your request I am providing some interesting info on MKTB.

PART I

MKT and G.Ramanathan are the products of stage drama popularly called special dramas later. In those days the drama actors had to act as well as sing without the assistance of PA system. They had to sing loud, and in high pitch so as to reach the last person in the hall. This is how TRMahalingam, MKTB and a few others trained thier voices. G.Ramanathan was a harmoniuam artiste in the dramas where MKTB acted. MKTB was more popular for his songs rather than acting. From there MKTB got involved in Special Dramas.

The guru of MKTB was Alathoor Sahodararkal who were called "Isai MethaikaL". MKTB's first film was Pavalakkodi.MKTB was acting in several dramas, including Chintamani. Later when Chintamani was made into a film he acted in it. The MDs are Alathoor SahodararkaL.Chintamani was shown by Mathurai Murugan Talkies. The film generated so much collection that after the run of the film was over, a new cinema Theater was built with the collection and it was clled "Chintamani Talkies".

CRAZE AND TREND

The moment MKTB's songs picked up momentum, there was a craze for his songs, and MDs were tempted (and forced) to compose songs in the style of MKTB.

1.In Chintamani there is a song called "Rathey Unakku Kobam Agathadee" TMS used that as a pallavi for his song in "Krishna Vijayam". Until Thookku Thooki TMS followed MKTB.Annam itta veetiley in Manthiri Kumari, Kulir Thamarai poigai and Kulingidum poovilellaam in Valayapathy are of this nature. The craze for MKTB songs never died in soul of TMS. When Akilan's novel Vaazhvu Engey was produced in the name of "Kulamakal Rathai" TMS requested KVM to give him a chance to sing in the style of MKTB. The Chintamani song "Rathey Unakku kobam agathedee" was appropriately sung by TMS in Kulamakal Rathai as the heroine's name was Ratha. There is another song of MKTB called "Siva perumaan kirubai Vendum" In a thanippaadal TMS sang this song as "mangalamaai vazha veNdum, vERenna veNDum"

2.In the old Ambikapathy (MKTB)there is a song called "Chandrasooriyar pOngathi mARinum veezhinum nmakkenna". When the new Ambikapathy(Sivaji) was produced, G Ramanathan wanted to make the new Ambikapathy popular among the fans of the old Ambikapathy. So he used the above tune for the new Ambikapathy as follows:

"Maasila nilavE nam
kAthalai magizhvOdu
manilam koNdAduthe"

3. In the old Ambikapathy there is a song called
"pajanai seivAi manamey"
In the new Ambikapathy G.Ramanathan used that old song's style as follows:

Sinthanai sei manamey

4. "Sivaperumaan kirubai veNDum" is the song sung by MKTB. In the film Sarangathara G Ramanathan used the same style to compose a song as follows:

Innum enna Vendum-TMS

5. "Deena karuna karaney Nadaraja neelakaNdane" is the song of MKTB. In the film Madurai Veeran, G.Ramanathan used the same tune as follows:

Echi pizhaikkum thozhilE sarithAna
eNNI pArunga aiyya
eNNI pArunga..
nachiyappa sangaili karuppa
poochi kAttum pokkiri suppA
moottai adicha unnaiyE viduvAna
eNNI parnga-TMS/Jikki

A UNIQUE PERSONALITY
The unique personality of MKTB is largely responsible for his boost. He was extremely fair looking, with a unique, and innocent look often described as "kanivAna, parithAba pArvai". Of course his greatest asset was the golden voice that God endowed him.

UNIT WORK
MKTB was highly successful as there was a unit work. (It was a mutual gain anyway)Music was composed mainly by GRamanathan, KVM and later others like C.N.Pandurangan(with GR in Puthu Vazhvu), C R Subbaraman (Rajamukthi)joined in. In fact S.M. Subbiah Naidu composed the song "vAzhvilEy oru nAL" in Haridass.

The other plus point was the contribution of Paabanasam Sivan. He composed lyrics to suit Karnatic Music.

CONTRIBUTION OF MKTB
It is a forgone conclusion that MKTB was a "INAIPPU PAALAM" between the Karnatic Music and the Semi Classic music. At the time when the Tamil cinema was delivering carnatic songs, there were some hardcore Karnatic music lovers who claimed and clamoured that Tamil film songs can never contribute to the development of Karnatic music. One such person was the Sithoor Subramaniam Pillai who is the guru of Madurai Somu. When Haridas was playing, someone forced him to see the film for the excellent songs. Subramaniyam Pillai saw the movie and was very much impressed by the way GR rendered the delicate and difficult Sarukesi raga song Manmatha Leelaiyai veNRAr uNdo in a Janaranjaga way. From the theatre he went straight to the homes of GR and MKTB to express his overwhelming appreciation. Therafter MKTB's songs came to be accepted(openly) as promoting karnatic music.

PART II to be comntinued with more interesting items.
vaNakkam

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran:

Thanks for a very nice description of MKTB
statistics and contributions. I look forward
to your Part II.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sathya Keerthi

MKTB Part II

JAIL TERM
Chintamani ran for one year in Gaiety theatre. But Haridass ran in the Madras Broadway theatre for 3 consecutive Deepavalis. Around this time there was a yellow magazine called Hindu Nesan which was notorious in publishing the "Arputha LeelaikaL" of those involved in the cine field. The articles also mademention of NSK and MKTB. The editor Lachumikanthan was murdered. MKTB and NSK were impilcated and arrested. This caused traumatic shock waves to run in Tamilnadu. This was the time when MKTB was at the height of his glory and fame. As he was passing the days in prison Haridas gained popularity. The irony is that the person of MKTB lost out in popularity. In those days those linked with murderer incidents used to be excommunicated in society. Haridas was so popular that it was the first film to be re-released in colour tint. In those days portions of the films used to be given single colours called tints. This was the beginning of the advent of colour films. Portions of Haridas were given colour tints. In the second release the entire film was given colour tint-thereby became the first film to be given tint throughout.(The first full colour film is Ali Baba)

Just before going to prison MKTB had been booked for 20 films in a row. He even took advance. While in prison he was most depressed, distressed and dishearted. This is because no producer came to visit him there. His close friends deserted him. Those who used him as a golden goose discarded him. Some did turn up- to request MKTB to return the advance, thinking that he would never be released. This hurt him further. Meanwhile the producers took a different approach. Thinking that MKTB would never be released, they went on to create a substitute for him to act in the films scheduled for MKTB to act. This is how they dragged the Karnataka's Honnappa Bagavathar. They used him to produce Kalidas. It wa a flop. Then they tried another film called valmeeki. Also a flop! Now they realised that people could only rival MKTB, but caould never replace him.

Fortunately MKTB and NSK got early release through the good office of influential people who were also the fans of MKTB. Luck was in favour of NSK when he became an active member in DMK. The DMK promoted him. But MKTB was not a supporter of the ideologies og of the DMK. So NSK and MKTB who parted.

When MKTB was released he was invited for a kachery where he could not see the usual crowd. He was sad to learn that he was no more a crowd puller. By this time the very film producers who never patronised him in jail came forward to use MKTB(based on the success of Haridas) in new films. But MKTB refused totally in anger. He decided to test his strength in the film industry.
1. Rajamukthi- He used totally a new comer in the film industry to write dialogue. It was Chirukathai mannan Puthumaippithan who wrote the dialogue. The film was a flop. Puthumaipithan developed acute tuberclosis which lead to his death. But the film with CR Subbaraman as the MD had very good songs like Unnai allal oru thurumbasayumo, manida janmam meendum vanthidumo, ingumangum, enna anantham, piravik kadal, manam nininthu etc.
2. He then tried taking the film Amarakavi, using uvamai kavignar Suratha to write dialogu. Another flop. This film had good songs like ellaam inbamey, sevai seithaaley vaazhalaam.

3. The last attempt was the film Puthu Vazhvu.Here both G.Ramanathan and CN Pandurangan were used as MDs. He studied the changing trend in the cine field and took this film. It has a social film with sound social theme.He used the most sizzling glamourous actress of the time-Mathuri Devi. He even introduced a dream scene of Romeo-Juliet style. The song for this scene is the most melodious "thEn Kuyil poley" which he saang with Jikki-probably the only song with Jikki. Somehow this film also did not fare well.Ths wonderful songs in Puthu Vazhvu are like Suttu vizhi chudar thaan Kannamma, thAnam avasiyam, uNmai onRe pEsum nalla uyar guNam veNDum"

When he took Thiruneelakandar before going to Jail it was well received. But these three other last movies did not do well. He lost all his property. The films may be commercially failures, but the quality of the songs was not the least compromised.

Then there was a last attempt to rehabilitate him. The film Sivagami was produced. MKTB sang songs like "Atputha Leelaikalai, gnana sabayil, AravAram, and Anantha nadana vinotha. But half way he died and the film was completed with a new actor who did not pick up. TMS had to sing to make up for the loss. Those songs are "vaanil muzhu mathiyai kaNden vanathil oru poeNNai kaNDEn" and the duet with Solamangalam Rajalachumy"andgumingum Attam pOda vaikkuthu AnAlumAnanthamAi irukkuthu".

To be continued tomorrow. Good night/morning.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran,

Great postings. Ravi, I think these postings must go into an archive under the heading MKTB. In that way lot of people will be able to access it. If it goes only under the DF archives, many may miss it. Keep up the good work, Manisekaran.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Is the server down? Testing

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran:

We are waiting for MKTB Part III...

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sathya Keerthi here is:

MKTB Part III

Giving below the list of all the films acted by MKTB-both released and unreleased. The idea is to enable the lovers of MKTB songs to get his songs recorded.

The films that he acted are in this order:

1. PAVALAKKODI-with the drama actress S.D. Subbulachumy as heroine. Direction by the great K. Subramaniam.Pavalakkodi was a highly successful drama that ALRM Chettiyar came forward to adapt it into a film form. It was a super hit film that ran for 100 weeks. Reason? 55 super songs.

2. SARANGATHARA- The heroine was again SD Subbulachumy. The direction was by K Subramaniam. This film ran very well.

3. SATHIYASEELAN. This is MKTB's own film. He wanted to introduce a lot of stunt scenes. He started the "Thiagaraja Pictures" and produced the film. Shooting was done in Bombay as well. By this time SD Subbulachumy decided not to act with MKTB. So he brought in an inexperienced actress called Devasena. This film, as expected ran very well

4. CHINTAMANI- This was produced by Royal Talkies. The Kannada actress Asvathama acted in this movie. The film was directed by O.Y.Rao who is the father of actress Lachumy. The film was well received.

5. AMBIKAPATHY. Produced by Salem Shankar Films. The story and direction was taken care of by the great Ilankovan of Kannagi fame. Direction was by Ellis R. Duncan. MKTB received RS 11,000 for this film. It was a great sum at that time.

6. THIRUNEELAKANDER. Direction was by Raja Sando. In this film NSK and TS Durairaj joined up to act in his films. By this time MKTB's fame got elevated sky high that people feard to act alongside with MKTB. There is one scene where the actor Sama was told to kick MKT. But he refused totally, untill MKT forced him to do so for the sake of acting. The film had a daring theme. A prostitute character was daringly featured in the movie. The character is Kalavalli. The pimp (maama?) character was portrayed very well by Kothamangalam Subbu. By this time those in the higher bracket in society came forward to appreciate the movies of MKT. On the 25th week celebrations of the movie, Sathyamoorthy, the Congress Leader presided the funtion and showered his blessings upon him.

While this movie was in the production stage articles damaging the name of MKTB started to appear in the front page of "Hindu Nesan", a yellow paper editored by CN Lachumykanthan.

7. ASHOK KUMAR- Kumuthini acted as heroine. Direction was by Raja Sando. MGR appeared as Mahendran and played "Jalra" for the songs of MKTT. (When MGR came to rule this film was painted as a movie of MGR, and MKT was side stepped) A well received movie of course.

8. SIVAKAVI. The story of Poiyaamozhi pulavar. The title for the movie was given by Ilankovan who also wrote the dialogue. This film was produced by Kovai Pachiraja films(Sri Ramulu).

9. HARIDASS- The most famous of all MKTB films. It was released during Deppavali, and ran for 3 Deepavalis. TR Rajakumari appeared in a small role in this movie. But the relationship between MKTB and TRR bloomend into a lifelong one. Manmatha leelaiyai venRaaruNdo? This song in this film applied to them as well.Untill this movie was made MKT used to act in one film at a time. But this film was so popular that MKT was booked for about 20 films in a row. In this film he acted as a lame person. In real life too he met with an accident while riding his own horse cart and was not able to walk for a long time.

AS the movie was running the editor of Hindu Nesan CN Lachumykanthan was murdered on 8 November 1944. NKS and MKT were arrested, but came out under bail. They were arrested again on 12 February 1945. Court case was on 3 May 1945, and lawyers were employed from Madras as well as Bombay (Lawyer Munshir) The case was not in favour of MKTB and NSK. An appeal was made, but failed. They were sentenced for 2 years, 2 months, and 13 days. With the good office of people in authority they were released early on 25 April 1947. A big group came to the jail entrance to welcome MKTB.From the jail MKTB went straight to Vadapazhani temple and prayed. On the same night he went off to Trichy as a very sad person.

Before going to jail he had accepted advance to act in several movies. The prodcers turned up in jail to demand for the return of the advance. The only peron who refused to accept the return of the advance was Lena Chettiyar(the owner of Krishna Films who produced Madurai Veeran and Raja Desing)
MKT told his family members to sell off his property to settle with the producers. This is how he lost his properties. He was so sad in jail ashis closest friends too did not show concern towrds him.

10. RAJAMUKTHI. As he was so dissappointed with the cinema field, he started his own film company called "Nagendra Films" and took Rajamukthi. Banumathy was the heroine. CRSubbaraman was the MD. Direction by Raja Sando. He brought Puthumai Pithan, the Tamil short story king to write dialogue. The film was a flop and Puthumaipithan died of acute Tuberclosis later.

11. AMARAKAVI. Dialogue by Suratha. Direction by M.Nagoor. The heroine was TR Rajakumari. The film was of average ruun.

12. SYAMALA- another average run movie.

13. PUTHU VAZHVU with the beauty queen Maduri Devi as the heroine. A good movie, but did not run very well. There were good songs with GR and CN Pandurangan as the MDs. MKT introduced many changes to make the movie a success. He studied the changing trend of the cine field and took this film to match the latest trend.It proved that the social themes do not match MKTB. Yet a failure commercially.

14. SIVAKAMI- was produced by MA Venu(producer of Town Bus and Samboorna Ramayanam) Half way through MKT died on 1 Novemebr 1955. A Telugu actor Jekkaiyah and another actress Jeyshree were brought in to complete the movie. Accordingly TMS was brought in to sing for Jekkayah. A film that never did well despite bearing the emblem of the last movie of MKTB.

UNRELEASED MOVIES

While Haridass was running MKTB was booked for the following movies:

1. Rajayogi
2. Sree Murugan
3.Valmeeki
4.Udhayanan
5.Bakthamedha
6.Bilharnan
7.Jeevagan
8.Kalidass
9.Nambiyandar Nambi
10.Sree Valli
11.VasanthaSena

As he went to jail, there was a feeling that he would never come out early. As MKTB had started a trend for the Bagavathar type of films, the producers wanted to quickly capitalise on the trend in the absence of MKTB. So they brought in Honnappa Bagavathar to complete the films that were originally sheduled for him. Honnappa Bagavathar did act in Valmeeki and Kalidass. Both did not do well. This Honnappa Bagavathar was equally dissappointed. So he later took a movie called"Ulavukkum Thozhilukkum Vanthanai SivOm"

MKT had acted in a few scenes in Rajayogi, Sree Valli and Vasanthasena

Rajayogi was produced by AVM. There are 8 songs in this film. But the songs had not been released in records. It is believed that had this film been released it would have broken the record of Haridass by virtue of the strength of the songs.

Sathya Keerthi,

Part IV to follow soon.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran:

You are giving us lots of rare information. Please
continue.

I have heard that Asvathama, the heroine
in Chintamani, also became very very famous after
that movie. Did she act in any other popular movie?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sathya Keerthi:

I am sorry I had to be away on an important mission. While it is true that Asvathamma was made popular by MKTB, he had the tendency of changing heroines in each of his movies. Asvathama did act in a film called Santha Sakkubai where the MD is Govindarajulu Naidu. But no trace of her after that.

MKTB Part IV

Let me now give some important incidents in MKTB's life.

1. When MKTB produced Thiruneelakander the 2nd World War erupted. The film was slightly delayed. Learning of the great popularity of MKTB, the then British Governor for Madras, Sir Arthur Hope requested MKTB to stage dramas to collect funds. MKTB gladly consented that. But the Congress leader, Sathyamoorthy was not the least in favour of this move. He therefore threatened MKTB that he would strip the "Bhagavathar" title from MKTB. Of course MKTB was not the least purturbed by that threat. He went on to stage the dramas. When the British returned after the 2nd WW, they conferred the title of "Divan Baghdoor" upon MKTB. MKTB very politely declined the offer.

2. When Thiruneelakandar ran very well the same Sathyamoorthi who antagonised MKTB came forward to preside the silver jubilee celebrations of the movie. Untill then MKTB used to wear silk jibba, silk angavcsthiram, silk veshti. But on the celebration day Sathyamoorthi requested MKTB to change to "kathar" form of dressing to which he consented. This incident became a turning point in the life of MKTB.

3. MKTB is affectionately known as "ezhisai mannar", and in some circles also called "ezhilisai mannar". This title was conferred upon him while performing kachery in Dharmapuram Atheenam.

4. MKTB is also called "sithar" in some circles.

5. It was observed that those watching MKTB's films never or seldom went out during the intervals for nature's call, to ease themselves or even to buy cool drinks. There was a fear that they may miss the songs should songs were the first scenes when the films resumed after the intervals. The boys selling cool drinks and cigarettes were not allowed in many theatres for their loud voice would be a hindrance. This precedence had not been the case for other movies.

6. MKTB attracted people from all walks of life. Anna himself used to patronise MKTB. Soon they became close friends. Whenever Anna visited Trichy he made it a point to call upon MKTB, and likewise MKTB never failed to call upon Anna whenever he visited Kanchipuram. When Anna visited MKTB for the first time he requested MKTB to sing a song for him. Knowing the stand of Anna in so far as belief in God is concerned, MKT sang the following song:
"Sivaperumaan Kirubai veNDum
verenna veNdum" Anna immediately asked"Yarukku?"
MKTB answered "ungalukkuthaan." Anna then said "Enakku Avarudaya kirubai veNdam; athu ungalukkey irukkattum" Then MKTB sang the song "Meinyana thangamithu" from Puthu Vaazhvu.

7. Probably MKTB's song was the first Tamil song to be used in an English movie. In the English film called "Elephant Walk" there is a scene where the Tamils of Sri Lanka are shown plucking tea leaves. The song "Boomiyil Maanida Jenmam adainthumOr Punniyam indRi vilangugaL pOl" from Asok Kumar was used as the background song.

8. It is an open secret that never before was any singer-cum actor in the Tamil film industry who had earned so much craze from both the males and females. In so far as the women are concerned they came openly to catch a glimpse of him at functions organised for him. It is also an open secret among the old timers that many women had desired with all their heart to have children by MKTB. When MKTB arrived in Chidambaram for the shooting of his own film "Thiruneelakander"in hundreds of women flocked around MKTB. Police force had to be reinforced to disperse the crowd.

9. MKTB had the habbit of expressing his gratitute by way of visiting those who had helped him in his beginning days. He used to sing a few songs in his houses. But he never received cash. He has helped many families financially without the knowledge of others.

10. His two visits to the house warming ceremonies by NSK and TR Rajakumari had been very significant. In the house of TRR, CS Jayaraman was performing Kachery when the unexpected guest MKTB dashed in, sang a few songs and dissappeared. Those who witnessed the event recall the his brief visit was like a flash of lighting. It is further said that his departure from the house brought a form of gloom.

When NSK arranged the house warming ceremony in Nagerkoil, many VIPs were invited. Amongs them was the Nadaswaram Vidvan Rajaratnam Pillai who requested MKTB to sing songs, one by one. Though he sang cinema songs, he was able to give the full length of the carnatic requirement, with all the details that are indispensable. Rajaratnam Pillai observed that it is just unfortunate that in cinema MKTB is forced to complete his songs in less than 5 minutes, and that in record the time is further slashed to mere 3 minutes, thereby losing the essence, depth and the weight.

11. There was a popular belief that Carnatic songs were killing the "Thamizhisai". People like Raja Sir Annamalai Chettiar, Shanmugam Chettiyar,Sir CP Ramaswamy and Thiruvaduthurai Rajarattinam Pillai started to revive the pure "Thamizhisai". When they first saw the kachery of MKTB, they came to belive that MKTB alone would suffice to quicken the "Thamizhisai" that was losing grip in Tamilnadu. Later these VIPs founded the Tghamizhisai Manram.

12. MKTB is an excellent singer, but a poor orator. In his whole life he has addressed the crowd only twice. The first was while performing the kachery in Jafna, Sri Lanka. At the end of the kachery, the organisers praised MKTB, but left out the other "pakka vaathiyangal". MKTB then addressed the crowd in praise of those who accompanied him.

The other incident was when the poosari in the Thiruvaiyaaru Temple knocked on the heads of the small boys who were running around. MKTB addressed and said how he himself was subjected to this treatment during his childhood days.

13. In the film Ashok Kumar MGR was playing jalra for MKTB. When MGR came to rule Tamilnadu, many more jalras emerged to jalra for MGR. There is a song called "Vathanamey Chandrabimbamo" in the film Sivakavi. There was a function arranged for MGR to attend, when he was the CM. Things were pre-planned. Untill moments before tha arrival of MGR, several songs were played on records. But when MGR was about to arrive, they stopped playing songs. MGR's car arrived. As MGR alighted from the car the song "Vathanamey Candrabimbamo" was played loud just to get MGR to acknowledge with a broad smile. The next line was "Malarntha SarojamO". To this MGR gave a still boader smile. The crowd, mostly "jalras" burst into cheering. Of course the song was most appropriate to desribe the golen features of MGR.

14. The original pallavi for the above song was like this:
"Muhammathu Chandra BimbamO" Somebody by the side of Pabanasam Sivam asked him
" Muhamathau (prophet)Chandrabimbam enRaal, Esu naathar enna sooriya bimbamO?" Immediately Pabanasan Sivam realised the dual meaning it is bound to conveey and changed the line to what we hear today.

Sathya Keerthi:

The fifth and the concluding will talk about the rise and fall of the one and the greatest legend of MKTB.
Regards.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran,

nice work. I cant wait for the 5th part. BTW, I am sure Papanasam Sivan was NOT the composer of vadhaname chandrabimbamo.

Could we also expect a thread on P.U.Chinnappa?

Thanks and regards

G.Ramaswamy

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran:

nandri. nEram kidaikkum pOdhu meedhiyaiyum
maRakkaamal ezhudhungaL.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisegaran
Thanks for all your informative posts.

As Ramaswamy suggests, it'll be good if you can
start threads on other old time artists and share
with us all the interesting info you have. If time permits, of course. Thanks in advance.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

G.Ramasamy:

Some old newsclippings that I have with me mention that "Vathaname Chandrabimbamo" is by Papanasan Sivam, from the film Sivakavi, and that the song is in sinthu bairavi ragam and aathi thaalam, with G.Ramanathan as the MD. I am basing on this info that I have.

Regarding PU Sinnappa it is not a problem for me. But from the poor response for the MKTB thread, I believe other than a bunch of fans like us no one may know who this PU Sinnappa is.

MKTB Part V-CONCLUSION

MKTB was living a princely form of life. In Trichy he had one Maaligai for himself, with so many servants. He had his own horse cart- with white horses. After the release of every movie he used to return to this malikai for complete rest. Whenever he was free he used to ride horses himself. It was a game reserved for very special people in society. He had his own cars as well. Shoes were not allowed in this mansion of MKTB. No cine actor had this environment.

It is believed that it was the film Chandralekha from which parents started to name their children after the famous films. But the fact is that it was the MKTB films (as well as the PU Sinnappa films) that started off this trend. New borns were named after the following films:
Haridass
Chintamani
Syamala
Sathiaseelan
Asok Kumar
Ambikapathy
Sivakami
This does not mean that such names were non-existent before the release of these movies. The elite could have been aware of such names. But the peasant population picked up the names from such films.

In Tamil literature we would have learnt of "Pathu viral mOthiram" But MKTB was one of those few who had gold and diamond rings in all his ten fingers. Amongst the actors or even the singers in the Tamil Film world, it was MKTB who was the first to have enjoyed this status.

MKTB is the first to have received the highest payment for acting in the movies. As early as 1944 MKTB was offered as much as RS 2 lakhs as advance alone. Had he completed the films we need not mention the amount that he would have receivd in full. Next to MKTB it was KBS who received Rs one lakh for Gemini's Avaiyaar in 1948. Then MR Radha demanded for one lakh and one rupee
for Ratha Kanneer. Two lakhs for MKTB in the 1940s is equalent to so many chrores by today's standard.

MKTB is about the only kachery singer who received several rings while yet singing on the stage. Anyway many could not slip rings into his fingers for lack of space. Angavasthiram, Pattu veshti, flowers, panneer thelithal etc were not uncommon.

Cinema posters usually do mention names of
the actors, MDs, director, actresses, producers etc to attract the movie goers. MKTB is the first to have set a trend. All the posters for MKTB's movies had to do was to carry his name alone. Example "MKTB nadikkum Haridass" This was sufficient to attract huge crowd.

The MDs used to have some fixed imagination while composing musical notes for the songs. But many of the MDs are not able to milk out sufficient talents from these "studio singers".(Ask the studio singers to sing without the assistance of the PA sytem, you may know what I am saying) But in the case of MKTB, he was again one of the very few who was able to satisfy the musical needs of MDs like G Ramanathan, CR subbaraman, CN Pandurangan and KVM. GR used to liten to the records of MKTB and often times got carried away. As mentioned earlier, even the great Sithoor Subramaniam Pillai, the guru of yet another great Madurai Somu used to get mesmerised by the golden voice of MKTB. No other cine singer had this impact upon the heart, mind and soul of the sangeetha vidvans.

PASSING AWAY
MKTB was already killed in spirit when he saw the poor support he had for his films after his release from jail. It was this sadness that sapped away his physical health, energy and spirit. He was born on 1-3 1910 and died on 1-11-1955, at the mere age of 45. Unbelievably too early by the life expectency rate of those days! While in jail he sold off his properties to setttle the advance that he had taken from the producers. He then became a pauper himmself. Actor S.S Rajendran, the wanted to perform "Kanaka Abishegam" to offer him financial assistance at the Trichy Mariamman Temple. But as pride outruled every other trials and tribulations that MKTB faced he refused the offer with feelings of gratitute. When he lost confidence in his friends, he took his own films, and many of those who involved with him sank with him. Ultimatley MV Venu came to rehabilitate him by taking the film Sivakami. That too was a dissappointment, as he became blind while acting. He tried to pull through but the strong fate had its way.

He was admitted to Madras Govenment Hospital. There nobody knew him, or never wanted to know him I suppose. Not many visited him there. When he died no one knew. The famliy was too poor to afford a proper vehicle to transport his remains in a befitting manner to Trichy. They managed with an average means of hearse. As the hearse was leaving Madras no one knew. As it crossed Thambaram area, some cine people whoe heard the news phoned each other and attempted to bring back the hearse to initaite a proper journey. But it was too late. Just think back of the glorious and unprecedented position he enjoyed in his life. Reflect upon the current resonse from the same crowd now.

LAST INTERIEW.

When MKTB was in the evening of his life, about to meet death, he was a blind man. He was livinig in Trichy. All India Radio interviewed him. That was the last interview. One last question in the interview was" UngaL vaazhkayil maRakka Mudiyaatha sambavam enRu ethai solveeerkaL?"
After a moment of slight hesitation, MKTB said along the following lines " When I was in the height of glory the rich people used to book me to conduct kachery for their weddings. Some even booked me way before fixing their wedding dates. Some have even refused to go ahead with marriage when I declined to perform the kachery. In this same Trichy area, there was a hardcore fan of mine who invited me to perform kachery for his wedding in a nearby village. I refused, and he too refused to get married. As he was a hardcore fan of mine I finally agreed. I was the only shining star in the cine field at that time. So he wanted to protect me from the crowd's pressure. Therefore he booked an entire coach for me from Madras. As I arrived in Trichy junction there was a crowd of at least 40,000 people flocking to catch a glimpse of me. I just could not alight from the coach. The crowd was overwhelmingly emotional, running amok, beyond the control of the security personnel specially arranged for the event. It took extra security features to get me out from the coach and push me into the car. There were so many garlands that completely blocked off my head. A mountain of garlands was created over my head. The organisers knew this would happen and had arranged for a special lorry to take away the garlands fo dumping away. It took one hour for the crowd to disperse. The train was therefore delayed by one hour. Starting with the Trichy Railway master, the reason for the delay of the train was relayed to all the other stations existing in the onward journey. So the train arrived late in all these stations by one hour. Many followed me to the village where the marriage was held, to listen to the kachery.

After losing my health and wealth I arrived again at the same TRichy railway station, this time as a blind man, with my wife guiding me. My wife told me that this time not even a single person acknowledged us. Since you asked this is the event I wish to mention here, as something I shall always remember"

MKTB could have ended the interview here. But he went one step ahead and said "vaazh naaLil ennai pOl vaazhnthavar evarumillai, ennai pOl veezhnthavarum evarum irukka pOvathillai"

I can understand the sentiments of MKTB, from the type of resonse accoreded in this thread, at a time when "Digitalil sethukkiya kuralkaL" have taken dominance these days. Old timers, let us pray for soulof MKTB, please. I had been listening to his songs while typing this, just to get inspiration.

Honestly my heart is so heavy, with the irreplaceable loss of the dearest MKTB whom many of us may still adore and admire so much.

END of a story which has no end.
Manisekaran

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Rajaram
Thanks for the request. Are you aware that the great MD SV Venkataraman passed away on 6 April 1998 at the age of 88? Seeing the kind of resonse for this MKTB thread I am afraid to even think of starting a thread to pay tribute to him. Moreover, I am quite busy now.

Vanakkam

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran :

I am one of those who really enjoy this thread and I have not posted anything in this thread. That's only because I have nothing to say when you are here. When knowledgeable people like you are here there is nothing for people like us to say. In this threads like this the only thing I can do is list MKT songs I have heard. Do not be disheartened by responses. I am sure every person visiting this site reads this thread.

I am eagerly waiting for your articles on P.U.Sinnappa.

TFM Managers : All these articles by Manisekaran need to be archived as permanent articles.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran: I echo pg's sentiments. enakku eppadi intha thread-la contribute pannarathunnu theriyala. All I have done is listened to three collections of MKTB songs. athellaam list seythagivittathu. athukku appuram enakku padikkum vElai thaan. My wife and I enjoyed reading your articles. As you know I am lifetime member of ManisEkaran Fan Club. (MFC) :). I can offer one statistic though.. This thread has had 209 access in the last 24 hrs. Almost as many as the IR songs thread. That should tell you how popular this thread is.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran: I am also a passive reader. Don't get disheartened. Please post a similar biography of P.U.Chinnappa. What about MKT's children? Is any of them in cine field? If you don't mind and if you know, could you please post MKT's liaisons with leading ladies of those years.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

I have enjoyed reading about MKTB. I do not think I have seen any of MKTB's movies. After reading your postings I have been checking out the local video stores. I would love to hear about the other stars.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran

Thanks for the great article on MKTB. Please continue your contribution. I am sure there are so many of us who read this thread though not contributing to this thread. Please continue on PUC also, when time permits. Thanks again.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran,

great job. I had a vague idea about the life and times of MKTB, but from your articles I have learnt quite a lot. Thanks.

Reg. 'vadhaname chandrabimbamo' - the incident you had mentioned was published in Kumudam once. And I am sure they had not mentioned Sivan as the song writer- it was some other name. I wouldnt forget a name like Sivan that easily. But again, Kumudam could have been wrong :-)

Again the songs you mentioned (and also the contributions of other readers of this thread) brought back many pleasant memories for me. It has been almost 10 years since I heard the songs. If only I had them with me on cassette, I would have uploaded them on to my homepage immediately :-)

As I said earlier, I am looking forward to similar threads on P.U.Chinnappa, T.R.Mahalingam etc. :-)

Thanks and Regards

G.Ramaswamy

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran,

By now, you know how many ppl are interested in this and similar threads. I don't have to write more. Pl continue your wondeful postings.

About SVV: If you visit

http://coldfusion.tfmpage.com/news (http://coldfusion.tfmpage.com/news
)

you'll see we posted a short news item after his demise.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Dear brothers and sisters who have commented on this thread,

Thanks for the nice words. It was a shocking pleasure to learn of so many silent visitors to this thread. Perhaps I should have qualified that my lamentation was not so much for myself. I lamented more for the ill fate that MKTB had to face in the evening of his life. Happy to learn that there are still people with soft spots for the great MKTB. May be his fans are the permanent wealth that MKTB has earned.

Not much information is available about MKTB in Tamilnadu and elsewhere. Even his family members do not know much of him. Small articles on him had appeared here and there occassionally. A book did come out about him long ago, but not too satisfactory.

I produced this article from my own memory, as well as clippngs and excerpts I had gathered over the years. I had given a summary and forced to leave out some info for obvious resaons.

Thank You.

Manisekaran

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

I would like to thank all who took the trouble to selflessly enlighten us and share with us so much info on MKTB. Thanks, good people once again esp. Maniskeran and Sathyakeerthi.Regards.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran: I am yet another passive reader of this thread. I dont know enough of MKTB to say anything in this thread. I enjoyed every posting of yours.

One question again; GN Balasubramaniam, the famous Carnatic singer acted in Sakuntala with MS. Did he act in any other movie apart from this ?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

A summary of Manisegaran's posts and the list of songs can be accessed at

http://coldfusion.tfmpage.com/view_artists.cfm?key=mkt (http://coldfusion.tfmpage.com/view_artists.cfm?key=mkt
)

Thanks Satish for compiling the posts.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran

My father is a hard core fan of MKTB. He used to sing all the songs you mentioned, in the night time before sleep. He has told me some of the incidents which happened in MKTB life time which you have mentioned mainly about "After jail" and the last day of his life.

My father has seen lots of times the movie "Haridass". In Madurai City cinema, Haridas was released for the second time. Even for the seond relase it has done a record of running a year. Those days they have given free "Kangi" to celeberate the last day. Chinthamani talkies you mentioned is the one in Madurai or some other place?

I really got "kaNNIr" when I was reading the last part of your orticle. Mainly because I remembered my father, who is 1000s of miles away and he will be very happy to read this.

Thanks

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Rajaraman:

The above tfmpage link that you have given for the
MKTB article is not working. Can you please correct it? Thanks.

Folks:

The CD, Golden Greats of MKTB that Satish
mentioned earlier, is really a wonderful collection.
It has 22 marvellous songs: the best by MKTB.
I bought it for Sing $15 in a store. The owner
was sooo glad to get rid of it because it had been
lying there for two years untouched by anyone. :-(

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

RV
GN Balasubramaniam did act in one other movie. But I am not able to recollect at the moment. I may post the info once I am certain of the details.

Syam,
It is the Madurai Chintamani talkies.

Sathya Keerthi:

I am trying to post the complete list of MKTB songs. Please give me some time.

Thanks.
Manisekaran

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekaran:
What a wonderful contribution! Thank you. I've been listening to my MKT collection (only 90 minutes or so) with renewed interest thanks to this topic, and am going to hunt down original videotapes of some of his classics you've mentioned. Thanks again.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Hi,
I am Vaidyanathan, and I am a new comer to this list. In fact, I just stumbled upon this today. I read these postings on MKT with great interest. I am an ardent MKT fan, and I have a good collection of MKT songs. The ones that I have (and that have not been mentioned here) are:
Vaazhvil Or thirunaaL indre (Haridas; opening scene)
Thottadharkkellaam thappizhuthaal (Haridas; this is where he tries to reason things out with N. C. Vasanthakokilam)
EnnaaLum indha inbam (Haridas; with T. R. Rajakumari)
Maamuni Naadha (Haridas; this is when he loses his legs; fantastic song)
Nijama idhu nijama (last song in Haridas)
I also have a bunch of very short songs from Sivakavi.
Yaanai thantham (Amarakavi)
Chedi maraivile (Amarakavi)
Yen Jeeva PriyE Shyamala (Shyamala)
Ingum angum engum inbamE (Rajamukthi)
Manam kanindhe jeevadhaanam (Sivakavi)
AaraNangE nenjam nee ariyai (Shyamala)
MAnE nAn unnaiyadaiya (Ambikapathi; with M. R. Santhanalakshmi)
Annaiyum thandhaiyum unnari deivam (Puthu VAzhvu); this is different from the one from Haridas)
Annai thandhai anbariyaadha (Amarakavi)
Unnaiye anbudanE vAri (Ashok Kumar; the heroine here was T. P. Kumudhini)
Ellam InbamE (Amarakavi)
SEvai seithAlE (Amarakavi)
Karaikku vadakkirukkum
Ittadi NOga
Enna seidhai (The last three songs are from Ambikapathi; Serukalathur Sama is the "co-singer"; he played the part of Kambar in the movie.)
There is also a song in Ambikapathi sung by Mysore Honnappa Bhagavathar who makes a brief appearance as the court musician just before Ambikapathi and Amaravathi are busted!! It is "Unnai allAl gathi yAr" in the raga Kalyani.
There are four other patriotic songs sung by MKT.
Gandhiyai pol
KaimAru seivadhuNdO
Sudhanthira Kodi
PArukkuLLE nalla nAdu

By the way, SivaperumAn krupai is from the film Naveena SArangatharA and not SArangatharA. The latter is a Sivaji Ganesan starrer (of the vasanthamullai fame).
If anyone has access to video/audio cassettes of the following MKT films, please let me know: PavaLakkodi, RAja mukthi, ShyamaLa, Naveena SArangatharA, Sathyaseelan
I also have articles by Randor Guy that were published in The Indian Express about ten years ago. He actually wrote a series of articles on the Lakshmikantham Murder Case under the title "Vintage Crime-The case that rocked Madras." I could type it in and post it here, but could somebody advise me about copyright and related things? I also have copies of Guy's articles on Haridas, Chinthamani and Ambikapathy.
Another thing that I have heard about MKT is that he funded the Vadapalani temple tank (KuLam).
NSK died in 1957, and the story is told of how MKT came to pay his last respects to his friend and found it impossible to get through for no one in the crowd recognized him!!!
MKT actually died in 1959. To quote from Randor Guy's article:"He passed away in pain, poverty and obscurity in 1959....His end was a sad epitaph to a success story of the incredible kind, the likes of which are most unlikely to be seen again...."

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Yesterday I bought, from a Singapore Store, three
more audio cassettes containing songs of MKTB:

1. Ringing Voice of MKTB
It has: sivaperumaan, sollu paappaa, saraasarangaL,
un azhagai, aRavaa varNam, chandhirasooriyar,
uNmai ondrE pEsum, raadhE unakku, aRpudha leelaigaLai,
jnaana sabaiyil, thillaiyin naayaganE, chidhambara naadhaa,
aanandha nadana, dhyaanamE

2. Sweet Songs That Stay For Ever - MKTB
This has: bajanai seyvOm, vaNdaaR kuzhal, unnaiyE,
dhyaanamE, ellaam inbamE, annai thandhai anbaRiyaadha,
soppana vaazhvil, krishnaa mukundhaa, manmadha leelaiyai,
sathvaguNabOdhan, dheena karuNaakaranE, annaiyum
thandhaiyum munneRi, uNmai ondrE pEsum, suttum
vizhi chudar, paadupattu, sEvai seydhaalE, oru pizhaiyum

3. Pazhamai Endrum Inimai Vol. 9 (The Golden Voice of MKTB)
It seems this is also available as CD for a very
cheap price: Sing $6.
This has: jnaanakkaN ondru, naattiyak kalaiyE,
suttum vizhi chudar, yaanai thandham, sedi maRivinilE,
thOrumai, en jeeva priya shyaamaLaa, ingum angum,
manam kanindhEn, Gandhiyaip pOl, aara nangai,
chidambara naadhaa, saraasarangaL, sollu paappaa,
raadhE unakku, aRpudha leelaigaL, thillaiyil naayaganE,
aanadha nadana, vasantha rudhu, oru naaL oru,
maRaivaay pudhaiththa

Just for completion, here are the songs in the CD,
The Golden Greats of MKTB:
soppana vaazhvil, krishna mukundhaa, manmadha leelaiyai,
rajan maharajan, sathvaguNa bOdhan, dheena karuNaakaranE,
unnaikaNdu mayangaatha, amba manam kanindhu,
maRivaai pudhaiththa, jnaanakkaN ondru, naattiya kalaiyE,
oru naaL oru pozhudhu, pavazha maal, boomiyil maanida
jenmam, manamE nee, dhyaanamE, vaLLalai paadum vaayaal,
vadhanamE chandrabimbamO, vasantha rudhu,
annaiyum thandhaiyum thaanE, ennudal thanil, maanidan jenmam

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

I am also an MKTB fan. I have not spent too much time listening to MKTB's immortal songs, whose singing gets me the cherished memories of my childhood in Tamilnad.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Vaidyanathan,
I have also read Randor Guy's article about MKTB and the Lakshmikanthan murder case. It kindled my curiosity and my father (who is no more) a fan of MKTB used to tell me about that infamous trial. My father lived in Purasawalkam (Doveton) area where that notorious rowdy "Arya Veerasenan" who murdered Lakshmikanthan (at the behest of MKTB and NSK) also lived at that time.
More detailed information about the murder case was given by "Aranthai Narayanan" in Dinamani Kathir in early 80s when he used to write about early days of Tamil Cinema.
I also have the Golden greats of MKTB CD. "Bhoomiyil maanida" was my favorite for a long time. My current favorite is "Dheena karunakarane". Still I cannot believe that people couldn't recognize him when he was not in the limelight. We Tamils have a history of not recognizing one's talent when they are alive but singing praises after they die. Bharathiyar is another example. After reading Manisekaran's articles, I have become ardent fan of MKTB and want to get hold of his authoritative biography desparately. Does such a thing exist?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Vadivel,
There is a book on MKTB by "Vindhan" although I am not sure as to how authoritative it is. I do not have a copy of it. Muktha Srinivasan wrote an article in Thuglak in the early 90's entitled "Bhagavatharin vaLarchiyum veezhchiyum."
Once again, to quote from Guy's article: "Only Arya Veera Senan lives, an old man bitter about life and its cruelty....Experts, even laymen believe that the truth about the murder did not come out, and that Bhagavathar, NSK and others were poor victims of a game of power politics."

In fact, NSK has sung a song (Jailukku poi vandha) in the movie "Paithiyakkaran" where he says
"Oru silar koNda kodiya poramai uruvamAchudhunga
AdhAlE uNmaiyai marandhAnga
PoiyyayE uRudhi paduthinAnga"
I happened to attend a lecture by Randor Guy at IIT, Madras in 1991 entitled "Crime, Cinema and Politics" where he briefly alluded to this case. He apparently tried to dig into the case in the 60's and went to talk to the late P. V. Rajamannar (one of the legal luminaries of India, he went on to become Chief Justice of Madras High Court) about this. Rajamannar was the Advocate-General in the 1940's and he led the prosecution in the Lakshmikantham case trial. Guy was urged not to make enquiries into the trial etc. by Rajamannar. When Guy asked him, "Is this an advice or threat?", Rajamannar replied, "It is an advice for now. If you try going further, it is a threat."
For the record, Bhagavathar and NSK were actually acquitted in the Lakshmikantham case after a 30-month sojourn in prison.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Vaithi:
Please post Randor Guy's articles on MKTB. I don't think copyright is a problem. There are much worse copyright violations like real audio of TFM songs etc., Can any of the TFM forum stalwarts help Vaithi with copyright issues and posting Guy's articles?

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Vadivel,

As part of the TFM page team, let me say you that we don't want to get into copyright problems.
Earlier, we had to take off an article that
was posted without the original author's consent.
So it's better if such postings are kept out of
this forum. Thanks.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Rajaraman & Vadivel:

I know Randor Guy personally. I would try to get in touch with him and see that the copyright issues are resolved. In fact, he would be one person who would be be delighted to see a forum like this. This would take some time, though as I am in the middle of resolving some personal issues and dont really hv much time...

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Vadivel

I am a government officer dealing with intellectual property matters, including copyright matters. Let me enlighten on the implications. There are 3 options for you.
1.Reproduction of an author's work without his consent is an infringement. Therefore you should get his consent.
2. There is an element called "Fair Dealing" in which a portion of the whole could be used for non commercial use, meaning educational, research and government use for which the consent of the authors need not be obtained. But sufficient acknowledgement must be accorded. This is covered under the International Convention For the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works popularly called the BERNE Convention where India and Malaysia are member countries. But you must establish that this thread is either educational or research oriented.

RAJARAM: You may have to mention somewhere in the introduction to the TFMDF that the purpose is non commercial and research oriented. As for me I consider this a perfect research forum.

3. The third option is of course time consuming. You have to read and digest and assimilate the article first. Then post it in your own words. This is because stealing "ideas" cannot become copyright infringement. Only the stealing of the material form (expressions in written form etc)will amount to infringement.

The duration of copyrith protection is the life of the author and 50 years from his death. After that the work becomes public domain. Anyone could use the work.

I hope the provisions in the Copyright law is clear now.

Thank You.
Manisekaran.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

LIST OF MKTB SONGS

THIRUNEELAKNDER

1.Oru Naal Oru Pozhuthagilum-
2.Un Azhagai Kaana Iru
3.Pavalamaal Varaiya Pani
4.Chidambara Naatha
5.Sarasarangal Varum suzhandre
6.Manam Nininthu Magizhnthu
7.Panakenthra Booshana
8. Neelakanda Nithya Nirmal
9. Dheena Karuna Karane Nadaraja
10.Maraivaai Puthaitha
11. Aathi Devane Thillai Natha
12. Eesan Kanmino

ASOKUMAR

1. Manila Vaazhvu Perum Aanandam
2.Ullang kavarumen Paavai
3. Thyaname enathu Manathu
4.Unai Kandu Mayangatha
5.Sathvagoona Bothan
6.Vanpasip pini Kunavu Nam
7.Maname Eesan Naamathai
8.Boomiyil Maanida Janmam
9.Unnaiye Anbudan
10.Kidayathu Vaazhvithile
11.Sinam Kamam Poi Kalavu

PUTHU VAZHVU

1.Appa Naan Venduthal
2.Suttu Vizhi Cudarthaan Kannamma
3.Annayum Thanthayum
4. Thanam Avasiyam
5. Then Kuyil Pole
6.Mei Gnana Thangame
7.Unmai Onre Pesum
8. Oru Pizhayum Ariyen

RAJAMUKTHI

1.Unnaiyallaal Oru Thurumbasayumo
2.Piravi Kadal Thandiye
3. Manida Janmam Meendum Vanthidumo
4. Ingumangum
5. Enna Aanantham
6. Manam Ninainthu

AMBIKAPATHY

1.Ini Evvaru Marappen
2.Ulaginilinbam
3.Iraiyarut Seyalithai
4.Chandrsooriyar Pom Kathi Maarinum
5. Bajanai Seivom Maname
6. Maane Naan Unnai Adaiya

HARIDASS

1.Vazhvilor Thirunaal
2.Manmatha Leelaiyai
3.Thottathatkellaam
4.Ennalum Intha Inba
5. Maamuni Nathar Karunaiyile
6.En Udal Thaniloru Ee
7. Annayum Thanthayum thane?
8.Krishna Muguntha Murare

SYAMALA

1. En Jeeva Priya Syamala
2. Rajan Maharajan

SIVAKAMI

1. Atputha Leelaikalai
2.Aananda Nadana Vinotha
3. Thillayin Nayagane
3.Arava Panan Thiruvadi
4.Gnana Sabayil Thillai

SIVAKAVI

1.Vathaname Chandrabombamo
2.Thiruvarul Thara Innum
3. Vaitha vayirapura
4. Mananganinthe
5.Vasantharuth Manamohaname
6.Amba Manam Kaninyhunathu
7. Vallalai Paadum Vaayaal
8.Koothan Muganthirandu
9.Vaasa Malar Madanthai Pol
10. UNgalile Yanoruvan
11. Thamiyen Painthamizh
12. Kulirntha Mugamanum
13. Ellaam Sivan Seyalen
14. Kavalaiyai Theerppathu Naattiya Kaliye
15. Swappana Vaazhvil Magizhnthe

CHINTAMANI

1. Pesuntharamaa Kathal
2.Maya Prapanjathil
3. Gnanakkan Onru Irunthidum Pothile
4.Katpinil Kaniye
5.Bajanai Seivom Maname
6.Rathey Unakku Kobam Aagathedi
7.Jegamathile Jeganaavathu

AMARAKAVI

1. Sevai Sithaale Vaazhalaam
2.Annai Thanthai Anbariyatha
3. Yanai Thantham Pole
4.Ellaam Inbame

SATHYA SEELAN

1.Sollu Paappa
2.Sivaperuman Kirubai Vendum
3. Kanna Kariya Mugil

NAVEENA SARANGATHAARA
Could someone fill up please.

THANIPPADALKAL

1. Ghandiyai Pol
2. Kaimaaru Seivathundo
3.Parukkulle Nalla Naadu
4. Suthanthira Kodi Paranthidappaar

HELP NEEDED for the films of these songs

1. Sotrunai Vethiyan
2.Vandar Kuzhal
3.konji Pesum Kiliye
4.Vinpole
5.Aaranange
6.Unniye Anbudan Vaari Anaikkum

NOTE: This is the best I could unearth. But there are some other songs thrown in this thread. I believe Sathish Subramaniam is already consolidating them into a complete list with details of lyricist, MD, raga etc.

Thanks and regards.
Manisekaran

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Manisekharan,

There are some errors in your list of MKTB songs. "Sivaperuman Kirubai Vendum" is from film "Naveena Sarangathara" and not from "Sathyaseelan". "Kanna Kariya mugil Vannaa" is from film "Pavalakkodi" (MKTB's 1st film 1934).

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Gawd!!! Never saw this thread ever. Thanks Gowri,for reviving. Now let us hope Mani gets motivated enough to start contributing, haven't seen him around off late.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sriram,

naa nijammaa solrEn (sarcastic aa illai) "inga (DF la) naraiya vishayam therinjavanga irukaa! ivaaLLaam regular aa ezhudhinaa romba nannaa irukkum.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

RajaG, Appadi Yellam romba pugazhatheenga :-))

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Could anybody tell me what raga is the song "Chidambara Nathaa, thiruvarul tha tha, unthan chitham Irangaathaa....". This song is from "Thiruneelakantar", great rendering by MKT.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Hi i am trying to find the article written by randor guy on the MKTB case....let me know if you guys knwo where i can locate theninformation on the net

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

tell more about s.g.kittappa

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Sir,

I'm a great fan of M.K.Thyagaraja Bhagavathar. I possess all the four cassettes released by

HMV. 'Sarasarangal Varum suzhanre' is my favourite song. I'm also a great fan of S.G.Kittappa, the husband of K.B.Sundarambal. I also possess the only cassette released by HMV on him. I want to know about the life history, atleast the Lakshmikanthan murder case of MKTB. Can you please

brief it to me on your reply.

V.Ananthanarayanan.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Haridos movie is so good to watch. This film is far superior on certain scenes when comparing todays tamil movies. Scene charector "Rumba" is superb. Her facial expressions for the dance to the song from MKT's "Manmadha Leelayil Vendral"
amazing. She was not only gorgeous but was very talented. Has she acted any other movies. What Happened to this Actress . Hope someone has info on this subject. thanks

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

hi sathi,

In MKTB's Haridas movie, was this "Rumba" character played by N.C.Vasanthakokilam, or T.R.Rajakumari? There are some pictures at

http://raja1630.tripod.com/mktb/id2.html (http://raja1630.tripod.com/mktb/id2.html
)

Please email me.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Super star MKT - thodar in Kumudam Junction

http://kumudam.com/junction/14012k3/pg5.html

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Hi,

Can someone tell me where I can download MKTB's songs?

Thanks,
Ramesh

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Hi,

Please someone tell me, where I can download M.K.T Bhagavadhar and N.S.K. songs?

regards
Vel

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Can Anyone help me where I can buy MKT CDs .
I live in bombay
I can purchase Online also in Indian Rs
Pleeeease help
A.Sundareswaran

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

Hi I have all M.K.Thyagaraja Bhagavathar movies in
vcd, If anyone intrested mail me.

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26th February 2005, 11:51 AM

S Senthil,I am interested in puchasing the complete set of MKT's VCD Kindly let me know the cost etc. Thank you.
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rajraj

26th February 2005, 10:37 PM

Song # 1.

Movie: ChinthamaNi
Music: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

raadhe unakku kobam aagadhadi raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi
raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi
maadharase pizhai yedhu seidhen sukuNa raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi
maadharase pizhai yedhu seidhen sukuNa raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi
maadharase pizhai yedhu seidhen sukuNa raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi

enai kaNam piriya manam vandhadho enai kaNam piriya manam vandhadho
nee engu sendraalum naan unnai viduveno odaadhe raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi
nee engu sendraalum naan unnai viduveno odaadhe raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi
raadhe unakku kobam aagaadhadi

kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano
kaNNai izhandhaven neeyo naano
kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano
kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano
kaNNaa nee veru naan vero evan sonnavan
kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano
kaNNaa nee veru naan vero evan sonnavan
kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano

viNNum kaNNum nirai mukil vaNNane viNNum kaNNum nirai mukil vaNNane
viruppu veruppil paranjothi poruLe indru
kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano
viruppu veruppil paranjothi poruLe indru
kaNNai izhandhavan neeyo naano

madhu

26th February 2005, 11:06 PM

# 2 vasantha ruthu

film : sivakavi
singers : MKT, Jayalakshmi
lyric : Papanasam sivan
music : G Ramanathan

vasantha ruthu mana mOhanamE
malarntha malaridhazh maNam kamazh thenRal

(vasantha)

malligai poonkodi kunthala varALi
moitha malar nagai kulunga viLangum

nagai paithiyam yadhukulAm pOdhilum
nanavilum kanavilum idhey sindhaiyA

surutti koNarndhu koduthaluthAr pOlavE
sollukku panjam illai..
konjum kuyilin isai..

(vasantha)

rajraj

2nd March 2005, 08:13 AM

Song #3. VaLLalai paadum vaayaal

Movie: Sivakavi(1943)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

vaLLalai paadum vaayaal aruthalai piLLaiyai paaduveno
vaLLalai paadum vaayaal aruthalai piLLaiyai paaduveno
veLLi malai vaLLalai paadum vaayaal aruthalai piLLaiyai paaduveno
enthan swaamiyai paadum vaayaal thagappan saamiyai paaduveno
enthan swaamiyai paadum vaayaal thagappan saamiyai paaduveno
appanai paadum vaayaal aaNdi suppanai paaduveno en
ammai appanai paadum vaayaal pazhani aaNdi suppanai paaduveno
vaLLiyin kaN valai veesilai vedan kaLLanai paaduveno
vaLLiyin kaN valai veesilai vedan kaLLanai paaduveno

ambigai baagan enum ambigai baagan enum akaNda suyambuvai paadum vaayaal
ambigai baagan enum enum akaNda suyambuvai
thumbikkaiyaan dhayavaal maNam perum thambiyai paaduveno
thumbikkaiyaan dhayavaal maNam perum thambiyai paaduveno

rajraj

2nd March 2005, 08:30 AM

MKT Song list- Chronological

1. Raadhe unakku (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=76290#76290)
2. Vasantha rudhu (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=76301#76301)
3. VaLLalai paadum (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=77878#77878)
4. Soppana vaazhvil (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=80058#80058)
5. Annaiyum thanthaiyum (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=81298#81298)
6. Rajan maharajan (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=82955#82955)
7. Manmadhan leelaiyai (http://forumhub.lunarpages.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=96563#96563)

Sudhaama

2nd March 2005, 08:46 AM

Mr. Rajraj,

MKT Song:-- Valhlhalai Paadum Vaayaal.... in "Sivakavi"

//vaLLiyin kaN valai.... 'veedilai'.... vedan kaLLanai paaduveno//

The word ..."veedilai"... should be corrected as... "VEESILAI" ( Veesu + Yilai)

So to say... "Valhlhiyin.... Kanh.... Valai-veesu.... Yilai-Vaedan"

rajraj

2nd March 2005, 09:32 AM

Thanks Sudhaama!

rajraj

6th March 2005, 06:16 AM

Song #4. Soppana vaazhvil

Movie: Sivakavi(1943)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

soppana vaazhvil magizhndhu
soppana vaazhvil magizhndhu subramaNya
swaami unai marandhaar andho
soppana vaazhvil magizhndhu subramaNya
swaami unai marandhaar andho
arpa paNa pei pidithe arivizhandu
arpargaLai pugazhvaar

naavaal poi mozhivaar poruL virumbi
naavaal poi mozhivaar thanadhu vaazh
naaLellam paazh seivaar undhan
paavana naamamadhai oru pozhudhum
baavanai seidhariyaar
paavana naamamadhai oru pozhudhum
baavanai seidhariyaar

andho vindhai idhe arindharindhu
aazh naragil uzhalvaare maandhar
andho vindhai idhe arindharindhu
aazh naragil uzhalvaare ivar
sindhai thirundhi uyya guhane
undhan thiruvaruL puriyaayo
Sindhai thirundhi uyya guhane
undhan thiruvaruL puriyaayo

Sudhaama

6th March 2005, 07:36 AM

Dear Mr."rajraj"

Splendid. !!!... A Grand old Song of 62 years back... you could collect and present here... !! Well-done... for your Sincere Efforts.!!

This Song is in the Raga : VIJAYA-NAAGARI.

Only Just TWO Corrections please.

--------------------------------------------------------------

Song #4. Soppana vaazhvil

Movie: Sivakavi(1943)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

soppana vaazhvil magizhndhu
-----------------------------------------------------------------
sindhai thirundhi uyya...................... "guhane" / PUHALAE
undhan thiruvaruL puriyaayo

Sindhai thirundhi .......................... uyyaa / UYYA .... guhane / PUHALAE
undhan thiruvaruL puriyaayo//
--------------------------------------------------------------------

rajraj

6th March 2005, 08:04 AM

sudhaamaa,
Thanks.
I corrected the typo in 'uyyaa'. Guhane is correct, another name for SubramNyaa ! That is what the 'kirthana maalai' of Papanasam Sivan says! :) That is also how I used to sing! It is the same 'Guhan' in SaravaNa bava Guhane Shanmukane' !

Sudhaama

6th March 2005, 10:01 AM

Mr. Raj Raj

Song :--- "Soppana Vaazhvil...."

The word ..."Guhan" is one of the names of the Lord Subrahmanya alias Muruha alias Kandhan ... alias Saravanhan ...and so on.. I know.

But my point is whether that Word here... or ... Not?

I am singing this song since the past 60 years... I know well... Because..

I am having the Gramophone Records also.... from which I verified now in the Voice of MKT... Clearly he says... PUHALAE ....

Puhal= Gathi / Refuge

Please hear MKT once again and then tell me.

Books are not reliable (I have adequate bitter experience on it)... unless it is published by the Composer himself.

rajraj

6th March 2005, 11:05 AM

Sudhamaa,
The book was published by his daughter! She also gives the notes for the song! I have to trust the daughter! I listened to the song and it is 'Guhane' which I think is more appropriate than 'pugale'. If you look at other compositions of Sivan you will notice that he uses the different names of a deity in his songs. Thanks for expressing your views.
Raj
3/5

Sudhaama

7th March 2005, 07:22 AM

Dear Mr Raj Raj,

//The book was published by his daughter! She also gives the notes for the song! I have to trust the daughter!//

Normally I don't enter into arguments with anybody... because... Arguments develops Fissure in Friendship... as also take us Nowhere... Because it becomes a Prestige-Issue at one stage... Most of the people do not have the Spirit of accepting own Faults...

... but try to establish... "Thaan pidicha Muyalukku Moonhae Kaal"

Whereas I am open-minded to receive the better ideas as alsothe due correction on my faults if I am convinced. And also I love to discuss with others... as an exchange of Knowledge... Give and Take.. So I am dealing with you only as a matter of Discussion.

To believe or Not to believe anything ... is left to you. I am not interested to press further. But ... left... to your Discretion.

// I listened to the song and it is 'Guhane' which I think is more appropriate than 'pugale'. //

If You are sure about it... OK.. Have it so. But I am sure on my Stand.
I hope you remember Sivakavi film at this Context...

The Pulavar (MKT) realises his mistakes and mis-conceptions on the Lord Subrahmanya.. who corrected him.. by moving with him in disguise.Immediately on realisation.. the Pulavar confesses...At that stage... Muruha shows to him His real identity... and disappears.

Then... the Pulavar... bows down... and touches the place and pays obeisance... where Muruha stood. .. Forthwith he starts this Song...

Matching with this context... the Composer P.Sivan has praised Muruha.. and finally shows his obeisance by Surrender at Muruha's Feet... as the PUHAL = Refuge (Adaikkalam)

That is th way all the Bhakthi-Songs are composed... so to say... praising in the beginning and end with the Surrender. So by the meaning and Sense too I am convinced fully on what I stand by.

For my Ears... even now I have heard once again.. it is PUHALAE only.

//If you look at other compositions of Sivan you will notice that he uses the different names of a deity in his songs.//

Not only he.... all the Composers adopt that Method... But at last... the Song used to end with words of Surrender to God.

That is customary. ... It is left to you. to accept or reject my clarifications.

rajraj

8th March 2005, 03:48 AM

Song #5.

Movie : Haridas
Music :G.Ramanathan
Lyrics :Papanasam Sivan
Cast :MKT, T.R.Rajakumari

annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane paaril
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane paaril
aNda saraasaram kaNkaNda dheivam
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane

thaayinum kovil ingedhu
thaayinum kovil ingedhu eendra
thenthai sol mikkadhor mandhiramedhu
thanthai so mikkadhor mandhiramedhu
seyin kadan annai thoNdu
seyin kadan annai thoNdu puNya
theerthamum moorthi sthalam ithil uNdu
theerthamum moorthi sthalam ithil uNdu
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane

thaayudan thanthaiyin paadham endrum
thalai vaNangaadhavan naaL thavaraamal
kovilil sendru enna kaaNbaan
nandha gopaalan veNdum varam tharuvaano

ponnudal than porUl boomi
ponnudal than poruL boomi peNdir
puthirarum pugazh itharai vaazhvum
puthiratum pugazh itharai vaazhvum
annai pidhaa indri yedhu
annai pidhaa indri yedhu maram
aayin vidhai indri kaai kani yedhu
aayin vidhai indri kaai kani yedhu
annaiyumn thanthaiyumthaane paaril
aNda saraasaram kaN kaNda dheivam
annaiyum thanthaiyumthaane dheivam

madhu

8th March 2005, 06:32 AM

Raj :

adhu "thAyudan thanthaiyin pAdham "

rajraj

8th March 2005, 06:35 AM

Thanks madhu!

rajraj

10th March 2005, 08:41 AM

Song #6. Rajan maharajan

Movie: ShyaamaLaa(1952)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT, S.Varalakshmi

raajan maharaajan thiru
vetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan
raajan maharaajan
thiruvetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan
thiruvetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan maharaajan
thiruvetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyagaraajan

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sri vadivudaiyaaL sevithu magizhndhidum
sri vadivudaiyaaL sevithu magizhndhidum
raajan maharaajan

mattilla pugazh migum pattinathaar andru
mattilla pugazh migum pattinathaar andru
katti kalandha karuNai arase
katti kalandha karuNai arase
thatti kazhikkaamal dhanayanai aatkoNdu
thatti kazhikkaamal dhanayanai aatkoNdu
thatti kazhikkaamal dhanayanai aatkoNdu
pattini piNi mooppu patraadhendre aaLum
pattini piNi mooppu patraadhendre aaLum

raajan maharaajan thiru
vetriyoor mevum thiruvaaLan thyaagaraajan

(................. swaram left out)

rajraj

2nd April 2005, 11:34 PM

Song # 7.

Movie: Haridas(1944)
Music: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT, T.R.Rajakumari

manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo en mel unakkeno paaraamukam
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo en mel unakkeno paaraamukam
manamadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo

nin madhi vadhanamum
nin madhi vadhanamum neeL vizhiyum kaNdu

rambaa
swaami

nin madhi vadhanamum neeL vizhiyum kaNdu

nin madhi vadhanamum neeL vizhiyum kaNdu
en madhi mayanginen naan
en madhi mayanginen moondru ulagilum
en madhi mayanginen moondru ulagilum
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo

ennudane nee pesinaal vaai muthu udhirndhu vidumo
ennudane nee pesinaal vaai muthu udhirndhu vidumo
unai enneramum ninaindhu urugum ennidam vandhaal menakkedumo
unai enneramum ninaindhu urugum ennidam vandhaal menakkedumo
unnai nayandhu naan veNdiyum or mutham thandhaal kuraindhidumo
unnai nayandhu naan veNdiyum or mutham thandhaal kuraindhidumo
oru pizhai ariyaa en manam malar kaNai paaindhu allal padumo
oru pizhai ariyaa en manam malar kaNai paaindhu allal padumo
manam kavar manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo
en mel unakkeno paaraamukam
manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo

Sudhaama

3rd April 2005, 12:29 AM

"rajraj" Song # 7. Movie: Haridas(1944)

//manmadhan leelaiyai vendraar uNdo//

en madhi mayanginen.... // (+) NEELH)... moondru ulagilum

unnai nayandhu naan // (-) thediyum //... // (+) VAENDIYUM // or mutham ..

rajraj

3rd April 2005, 12:45 AM

Thanks Sudhaamaa. I replaced 'thediyum' with 'veNdiyum'.

rajraj

22nd August 2005, 09:56 AM

Song 8.

Movie: Sivakami
Music: KVM (?)
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

thillaiyin naayakane sivakaama valli manoharane
thillaiyin naayakane sivakaama valli manoharane en
allal pinigaL ara allal piNigaL ara
allal piNigaL ara thiru naamam solla udal silirkkum en
allal piNigaL ara thiru naamam solla udal silirkkum

kanaga sabesan kanaga sabesan thiru nadam kaaNa vizhaindhene
kanaga sabesan kanaga sabesan thiru nadam kaana vizhaindhene
kanavilum veru kanvilum veru ninaivindri karuthazhindhne
kanavilum veru ninaivindri karuthazhindhene en
kartuthazhindhene

theLLiya nin sadaiyum theLLiya nin sadaiyum thirumeni
vaLLalai eNNumthorum
theLLiya nin sadaiyum thirumeni vaLLalai eNNumthorum
uLLam magizhndhene
uLLam magizhndhene peraanandha veLLam amizhndhene
uLLam magizhndhene peraanandha veLLam amizhndhene

thillaiyin naayakane sivakaama valli manoharane en
allal piNigaL ara thiru naamam solla udal silirkkum en
allal piNigaL ara thriu naamam solla udal silirkkum

rajraj

20th February 2006, 10:36 PM

9.
Movie: ashok kumaar
Lyrics: paapanaasam sivan
MD: paapanaasam sivan
Cast: MKT,kaNNambaa,nagaiyaa,MGR

satva guNa bhodhan satva guNa bhodhan satva guNa bhodhan charaNam(?) idhu

siththamum veeNe kalanguvadheno satva guNa bhodhan
siththamum veeNe kalanguvadheno satva guNa bhodhan
kallinuL thEraikkum kallinuL thEraikkum karuppai uyirkkum
kallinuL theraikkum karuppai uyirkkum
kallinuL theraikkum karuppai uyirkkum
pulluNave thandhu potrum nam naathan satva guNa bhodhan
pulluNave thandhu potrum nam naathan satva guNa bhodhan

kaNNizhandhaal enna kaNNizhandhal enna kadavutkum enna
kaNNilzhandhaakl enna kadavutkum enna
kaNNilaiyo nammai kaakkum dhayaaLan satva guNa bhodhan
kaNNilaiyo nammai kaakkum dhayaaLan satva guNa bhodhan
satvaguNa bhodhan

Sean_archer

6th June 2006, 10:14 AM

Dear members,
I am Srini. I am a passive member of this group. I am an adarent fan of MKTB and I went through all the responses and letters posted in this 8 page thread. Wonderfull, I feel happy to see soooo many who like MKTB.
My father is also a fan of Sir.MKTB and his(my fahter's) village was near chidambaram, where lived an MKT fanatic more than anybody.. Who used to buy p.u chinnappaa's record and MKT's record. He was a wealthy person too.
He used to smash the record of P.U.Chinna( gramphone plate ) to the ground and brake it, then he will play MKT's songs ( newly bought ). When asked for a reason for his act...
He would say ..........

why singers like P.U.Chinna sing, when king of music is still around.
See you all guys soon with some other interesting information.

Bye from MKT's fan.
srini :P

bingleguy

6th June 2006, 10:20 AM

MKT nna

Mamadha leelayai vendrar undo dhaan nyaabagam varudhu ! :-)

Sean_archer

6th June 2006, 10:47 AM

Hay,...........

for me carnatic music naa

MKT bhagavadhar dan Gyaabagam varudhu..

From
Sri :P

Sean_archer

6th June 2006, 10:48 AM

Hay,...........

for me carnatic music naa

MKT bhagavadhar dan Gyaabagam varudhu..

From
Sri :P

Sean_archer

6th June 2006, 06:17 PM

Dear all,
I would like to present you the lyrics of the above mentioned song.

Song 10.

Song: Maraivai Pudhaitha
Film: Thiruneelakanter
Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
Ragam: Darbar

Maraivaai pudaitha oodu maraindha maayam yedho
Maraivaai pudaitha oodu maraindha maayam yedho
Maa munivarey ariyen, yarum ariyaamal marivaai.

Karayaan thindratho, kalvar kavarndhu sendraro
Karayaan thindratho, kalvar kavarndhu sendraro
Paydhai seriyen sai thee vinayo Eraivan soodhanayo
seriyen sai thee vinayo Eraivan soodhanayo

maraivaai pudaitha oodu maraindha maayam yedho
Maa munivarey ariyen, Yarum ariyaamal marivaaaaaaaaai.

Maruldheermai thavagyana periyooi oooooi
Maruldheermai thavagyana periyooi pedhai yaan,
Meiyaai vadivel ariye nenjil vanjam ariyen aiya
vadivel ariye nenjil vanjam ariyen aiya
Karunai puriveer manitharulveeeeeer,
Karunai puriveer manitharulveer
kaliman sutta kalam poonaal yena sempor kalamey seidhu tharuven
kalam poonaal yena sempor kalamey seidhu tharuven

maraivaai pudaitha oodu maraindha maayam yedho
Maa munivarey ariyen, Yarum ariyaamal marivaai.

From
Srini :P

Sudhaama

6th June 2006, 07:21 PM

MKT had acted just in seven Films. And all of them were hits....

... mainly because of MKT's....IMMORTAL MUSICAL MELODY.

... Still being heard repeatedly... even after hearing them hundreds of times

Especially for the rare Raga VIJAYANAGARI ... his Typical Song...

...valued by the Musicians too as the Key-Song to easily IDENTIFY the Raga even today....

...without taking pains to search for its Swara-basis... That Model- Song is...

"Soppana-Vaazhvil mahizhndhu"..... in Sivakavi... by Papanasam Sivan

http://www.musicindia+online&page=1&offset=0&result_url

Sean_archer

8th June 2006, 02:55 PM

Dear friends,

URL for club

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MKThyagarajaBagavathar_FanClub/

This is the first fan club to be opened for MKT. The main aim of this group is to bring closer together the like minded people
with-respect to the great singer.

The members who join this group are requested to share with the others whatever information and stuff they have about Thyagaraja bagavathar.

Because, the carnatic master pieces which he sung were totally ruined by time. All we have to enjoy are his evergreen film songs which are equally great.

So, to those members who join this newly formed group are requested to use this group for the sole purpose of popularizing MKT among those who don't know him and also to spread his fame across continents.

We, the fans of MKT should recreate the charisma which MKT created years ago. Many people don't even listen to his songs anymore and are completely mislead by current music trend.

Access the club thru foll url.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MKThyagarajaBagavathar_FanClub/

rajraj

4th August 2006, 12:16 AM

Song 11.

Movie: thiruneelakaNtar(1939)
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

dheena karuNaakarane nataraajaa neelakaNtane
dheena karuNaakarane nataraajaa neelakaNtane
ninnaruL pugazhndhu paNiyum ennaiyum irangi aruLum
ninnaruL pugazhndhu paNiyum ennaiyum irangi aruLum
mouna guruve harane enai aaNda neelakaNtane
mouna guruve harane enai aaNda neelakaNtane
dheeana karuNaakarane nataraajaa neelakaNtane

meena lochani maNaaLaa thaandavam aadum sabaapathe
meena lochani maNaaLaa thaandavam aadum sabaapathe
gnaanigaL manam virumbum neelakaNtane
gnaanigaL manam virumbum neelakaNtane
mouna guruve mouna guruve mouna guruve mouna guruve harane enai aaNda neelakaNtane
dheena karuNaakarane.............

aadhi antham illaa harane aa...............
aadhi antham illaa harane anbar uLLam vaazhum parane
aadhi antham illaa harane anbar uLLam vaazhum parane
paadhi madhi veNiyane paramesa neelakaNtane
paadhi madhi veNiyane paramesa neelakaNtane
dheena karuNaakarane.............

(to be edited for cast)

Sudhaama

4th August 2006, 10:34 PM

tfmlover

5th August 2006, 12:34 AM

inba priye shymalaa ? lyrics irukaa rajraj pls

rajraj

5th August 2006, 04:41 AM

Srini (aka Sean_archer).
Thanks for participating in this thread. Here is a list of movies by MKT. If your father or his friend has any of the songs not found in MIO, please consider posting the lyrics here.
If you find any movie missing please let me know.

1. Amarakavi(1952)

2. Ambikapathi(1937)

3. Ashok Kumar(1940/41)

4. ChinthamaNi(1937)

5. Haridas(1944)

6. Naveena Sarangadhara(1936)

7. PavaLakkodi(1934)

8. Puthuvaazhvu(1957)

9. Rajamukthi(1948)

10. Sathyaseelan(1938)

11. ShyamaLa(1953)

12. Sivakami(1959)

13. Sivakavi(1942)

14. ThiruneelakaNtar(1939)

MKT had acted just in seven Films. And all of them were hits....

rajraj

5th August 2006, 04:46 AM

tfml,
I will go through my collection of MKT songs in CDs , cassettes and recording from radio and let you know. :)

inba priye shymalaa ? lyrics irukaa rajraj pls

rajraj

5th August 2006, 09:28 AM

Song 12.

Movie: ShyamaaLaa(1953)
MD: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Roya Sundharam
Cast: MKT

shyaamaLaa shyaamaLaa jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
jeeva priye shyaamaLaa en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
en shyamaLaa shyaamaLaa dhevi
en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa

paadhai mel vizhiyaai paarthe nondhen
paadhai mel vizhiyaai paarthe nondhen
paangudan thenmozhi pesida vaaraayo shyaamaLaa
paangudan thenmozhi pesida vaaraayo shyaamaLaa
jeeva priye shyaamaLaa en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa

endrunai kaaNben inbam peruven
endrunai kaaNben inbam peruven
yekkame theera irangiduvaaye neeye shyaamaLaa
yekkame theera irangiduvaaye neeye shyaamaLaa
jeeva priye shyaamaLaa en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa

aasai mukam kaattiye
aasai mukam kaattiye en allalai thaviraayo
aasai mukam kaattiye en allalai thaviraayo
aadi vandhu endhan anbinai mevi
aadi vandhu endhan anbinai mevi
aanandham thaaraayo shyaamaLaa
aanandham thaaraayo shyaamaLaa shyaamaLaa dhevi
en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
en shyaamaLaa shyaamaLaa dhevi
en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
en jeeva priye shyaamaLaa
en shyaamaLaa

tfmlover

6th August 2006, 03:08 AM

:thumbsup: rajraj

rajraj

7th August 2006, 03:37 AM

song 13.

Movie: sivakami
MD: KVM
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

gnaana sabaiyil thillai kaanamthanil nindraadum aanandha natarajane
hara hara ena vara nunivarum amararum pugazh paramaanandha natarajane

maanum mazhuvum pinju madhiyum nadhiyum thavazh sev
vaanam nikar jadai aada iLa nagai
arumbum madhi mukamum thiru vizhi azhagumaai
gnaana sabaiyil.........

[nemiyudan muzhankaazhi aNi saarangapaaNi mridhangamumn
ni sa dha ni pa ma ri ga ma ri sa swara naadha naaradhar veeNaiyum ]

saama gaana vinodhane siva kaama sundhari naathane
swaami adimaiyai aaL sakala jagan
naathane paadhame theem thatheem isaiyudan
gnaana sabaiyil.............

(For those interested in the raagaa of this song it is saarangaa. )

[What is shown in brackets is in the composition by Sivan, but not in the movie version.]

rajraj

7th August 2006, 06:02 AM

Song 14.

Movie: sivakami
MD: KVM
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

aRputha leelaigaLai yaar aRivaar
akilaaNda naayakane harane undran
aRputha......

chithparane sivane unadhadiyaar
sey pizhaigaL poRutharuLum enadhaiyane
thiru abayavara kaiyane un
aRputha........

paattil aasaiyaal andru paravai manai
thoodhu nadandhavaa viRagu sumandhavaa
maattudaiyaay thillai kaattinile aruL
aattudaiyaay thalai Ottudaiyaay unnaik
kaatti maRaippaai ennai aatti alaippaai empi-
raatiyudane vaattamaRa inbam oottuvaai thunbam Ottuvaai undran
aRputha leelaigaLai.............

Sudhaama

7th August 2006, 06:31 AM

rajraj

7th August 2006, 09:25 AM

Song 15.

Movie: Sivakavi
MD: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

ambaa manam kanindhunadhu kadaikkaN paar
thiruvadi iNai thuNai en
ambaa......
ambaa......

vembava noyaRa anbarthamakkaruL
kadhambavana kuyile sankari jagadh
ambaa.....

painthamizh malarp paamaalai soodi un
paadha malar paNindhu paadavum veNdum
sinthaiyum en naavum enneramum nin
thirup peyar pugazh maRavaamaiyum veNdum
bandha ulagil madhi mayangi aRu pagaivar
vasamaai azhiyaamal aruL peRa veNdum
indha varam tharuvaai jagadheeswari
enthan annaiye akilaaNda naayaki en
ambaa......

(raagam: panthuvaraaLi)

bingleguy

7th August 2006, 09:28 AM

I ve not seen any of his movies completely !

I ve heard he was the SuperStar of that time !

rajraj

7th August 2006, 09:33 AM

I ve heard he was the SuperStar of that time !

Yes! Some of the songs can be heard in carnatic concerts! Some of the movies are available in vcds.

bingleguy

7th August 2006, 09:37 AM

WoW ! avaroda song enakku nyaabagam irukkardhu Manmadha leelaiyai song mattum dhaan !

rajraj

7th August 2006, 09:42 AM

Song 16.

Movie: naveena sarangadhara
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

siva perumaan krupai veNdum avan
thiruvaruL peRa veNdum verenna veNdum
siva perumaan.........

avalap piRappozhiya veNdum adhaRku viththaam
ava maayai akala veNdum verenna veNdum
siva perumaan.........

thollulagil nararum ellaa uyirum saantha
suka vaazhvu vaazha veNdum verenna veNdum
siva perumaan.........

[kaama mudhal pagaiyum kurangu manamum seththu
raamadhaasan uyya veNdum verenna veNdum.]

[Lines within brackets not in the movie song.]

rajraj

7th August 2006, 11:24 AM

Song 17.

Movie: thiruneelakaNtar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

chidhambara naathaa thiruvaruL thaadhaa nin
chiththam irangaadhaa thiruvadi aladhoru thuNaiyilan

pathanjaliyum puliyum paNiyum
kun jitha padhane sanchidham agalaadhaa
chidhambara naathaa..........

nandru theedhum aRiyene nondhene
gnaanamilen unnai nambi vandhene
mandril aadum maNiye senthene
vaadhaa aRupagai theeyil vendhene
chidhambara naathaa...........

rajraj

8th August 2006, 05:18 AM

Song 18.

Movie: ShyamaLa(1953)
MD: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: appar dhevaram
Cast: MKT

sotruNai vedhiyan sOdhi vaanavan
potruNaith thirundhadi porundhak kai thozha
katruNai pootiyOr kadalil paaychchinum
natruNai aavaadhu namachchivaayave

madhu

8th August 2006, 06:49 AM

raj !

"sivaperumAn krubai vENdum" enRAl enakku anbE vAA padathula vara nAgEsh comedy-than ninaivukku varadhu.. :lol:

rajraj

8th August 2006, 08:47 AM

Song 19.

Movie: Ashok kumar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

dhyaaname enadhu manadhu niRaindhadhu
chandra bimba vadhanamthanil dhinam
dhyaaname......

kaantha sakthiyai innaaL aRiyen naan iru
kaN mayangi saavenO
dhyaaname.......

lokamum adhile thondrum indhriya
bogamum yaavum thuRandhen vishaya
bogamum yaavum thuRandhen kamala
mukamum vaseegara neeLiru vizhigaLum
mOhana uruvum peyarum aagavum
dhyaaname.......

rajraj

9th August 2006, 09:49 AM

Song 20.

Movie: Haridas(1944)
MD: G.Ramanathan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT, T.R.Rajakumari

krishNaa mukundhaa muraare jaya
krishNaa mukundhaa muraare

karuNaa saagara kamalaa naayaka
kankaambaradhaari gopaalaa
krishNaa......

kaaLiya mardhana kamsa nishoodhana
kamalaayadha nayanaa gopaalaa
krishNaa......

kutila kundhaLam kuvalaya dhaLa neelam
madhura muraLi rava lolam
kOdi madhana laavaNyam gopi
puNyam bajaami gopaalam

gopi jana mana mohana vyaapaka
kuvalayadhaLa neelaa gopaalaa
krishNaa......

rajraj

9th August 2006, 10:23 AM

Song 21.

Movie: Rajamukthi(1948)
MD: C.R.Subbaraman
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

maanida janmam meeNdum vandhidumo ulageer uyar
maanida janmam...........

gnaana vairaagyam dhavam jeeva kaaruNyam uNmai
gnaana bhakthi paguththarivudan ika para sukam tharum karuNaiyaam
maanida janmam.........

karuvaRaiyinil kidandhu veLiyil varunthuyar ninaindhaalum udal
kalangudhe inge thigil maraNam enum vempuliyum seeRudhe

iru vinai vasamaam ivvudal oru neerkkumizhi
idhanidai uyar neRi adaiyave iRaivan aruLai veNdi
udaiyaraagi idaiyaRaadha thiruvadi ninaivudane
kadimadhil paNdaripuramadhil oru muRai kaNdu paNindhu
prabhO paaNduranga jaya vittala endru paNindhida
maanida janmam..........

Sean_archer

29th August 2006, 04:36 PM

Thamiyen, is an excellent song by MKT..the way he renders the
ragam sahana through out the 2 minute song will be extrodinary to hear..The following are ther song's lyrics.

Song 22.

Movie : Sivakavi
MD:
Lyrics:
Cast: MKT
Ragam : Sahana.

Thamiyen painthamiz annayin paal arundia thamiz balan..
Thamiyyyen painthamiz annayin paal arundia thamiz balan..
Thamiz valara uir vaazum ooziyan endrulagarium (Yendru Ulagu ariyum)
Thammmiz valaraaa uir vaazum ooooziyan endrulagarium
Thamiyeeeennn..

Thamizarasi angayarkan umayannaye dayavillaya..
Tha mi za rasi angayarkan umayanayeeee dayavillaya
Thamiyenakkum edil amara edam Elaya, tagavillayoo
Thamiyenakkum edil amara edam Elaya, tagavillayoo

Tharunam vadenayaalaai charanadaindeen enithaaley
Tharunnnnaam vadenayaaaalaai charanadaindeen enitaaley
Varamarullai sabhai naduvey, varun ezi undanaichaaaaarum
Varamarullai sabhai naduvey, varun ezi undanaichaaaarum

Thamiyen painthamiz annayin paal arundia thamiz balan..
Thamiz valara uir vaazum ooziyan endrulagarium (Yendru Ulagu ariyum)
Thamiyyeeee, Yeeee
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Does any body know the lyrics for song...
Yellaam sivan seyaley...
.......................................
Yella uirum eesam vilayaattu... etc..

Kindly give if you have

rajraj

29th August 2006, 10:13 PM

Song 23.

Movie:
MD:
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast:

ellaam avan seyal endreNNi
manathil saantha inbutriruppor periyor
inba thunbam
ellaam.........

ellaa ulagum eesan viLaiyaattu eLiyorgaL
ellaam sodharar endra parandha anbaRivorum
ellaam.......

anjin serkkaiye indha anithya udal(boodham) maN
peN aasaip perukke janma thunbangaLukkum hEdhu
nenjil vetrumai thondra padarum agnaana iruL
neerum paalumaay niRai samarasa gnaana aruL
ellaam.......

(raagam: thodi)

Sean_archer

5th September 2006, 06:44 PM

Mr.Raj..
Thank you for the lyrics...
that's hardly understandable from the audio I have..
That's why.........

Thank you..

I would be greate, if you are able to figure out the lyrics of an
excellent song from Rajamukthi...

"Manila vazvu perum aanandamm...."

ragam kalyani ?? right ??

Thanks & regards

Sudhaama

5th September 2006, 08:16 PM

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quote:"Sean_archer"

// .... I would be greate, if you are able to figure out the lyrics of an
excellent song from Rajamukthi...

"Manila vazvu perum aanandamm...."

ragam kalyani ?? right ??

Thanks & regards //

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Song 24.

Movie: Ashok Kumar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

Ragam: Kalyaanhi - Thaalham : Aadhi

Pallavi

Maanila-vaazhvu perum Aanandham, Vaanulahoar arhiyaar en Kanhnhae ...(Maanila)

Anu-pallavi

Vaan-amudham ezhil Maan-vizhi Maadhae, Vaan-amudham ezhil Maan-vizhi Maadhae,
Abhimaanamum Anbum kalandhirundhaal indha ... ... ... ... ... ... (Maanila)

Charanham

En-mana Unhmai-nilai Nee arhiya, eduththuraikkum Mownam padaiththanai Anbae
Un-mana Sammadham undoa illaiyoa, Un-mana Sammadham undoa illaiyoa
Naan unharndhu mahizha velhi-kaattalaahaadhoa ... ... ... ... ....... (Maanila)

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Sean_archer

11th September 2006, 03:33 PM

Mr.Sudhaama, thank you.. for the lyrics.........

It would be greate if you can give the lyrics for the foll songs,

1) Pavazamaal from 'Thiruneelakandar'.
2) Nijamaa from 'Haridas'.
3) Umayobaganey from 'Sivakami'.
4) Pathi padam from 'Ambikaapathy',,

The reason why I keep asking for lyrics is that, with the tape I have, the lyrics are not clear....

The sound quality is less, if they are transformed to digital audio.

You guys have any idea on where to get the movies of MKT.
Ya, I am talking about the DVDs, CDS, which ever possible.

Thanks

Sudhaama

13th September 2006, 08:33 AM

Song 25.

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Movie: HARIDAS. - Sung by : M.K.T.

Ragam: BEGADA. - Thalam: Aadhi.

Pallavi.

Idhu Nijamaa? Idhu Nijamaa? Nee ivvadimaikkum Kaatchi thandhadhu Nijamaa? (Idhu)

Anu-Pallavi

Ayanodu Kailaasapathi arhiyaadha Aadhimoolamae! Nijamaa? Idhu Nijamaa? (Idhu)

Charanham.

Naama-moru murhai solla Yen naaku thandha Bhaagiyamoa!..(Nin)
Naamam Oru murhai solla Yen naaku thanda Bhaagiyamoa!..
Naayadimaiyin Thaay-Thandhaiyar tharu nal-Anugrahamoa?
Ohm Namo Naaraayanhaa! Ohm Namo Naaraayanha!
Ohm Namo Naaraayanha! Ohm Namo Naaraayanha! Ohm! Ohm! Ohm!
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Sean_archer

13th September 2006, 07:29 PM

Sudhaama

14th September 2006, 03:32 AM

Mr Sudhaama

I think The line goes as follows..

Nama moru (Oru ) murai solla Yen naaku thanda Bhagiyamo..
Nin Nama moru (Oru ) murai solla Yen naaku thanda Bhagiyamo..

Nayadimai......

Am I right !!!, That's how my audio sounds..... ??
Plz verify !!

May I ask for the other 3........Song's lyrics, sir !!

Thanks

Dear Sean_archer,

Yes.... You must be CORRECT.... Accordingly I have now EDITED the lines.

But still I doubt on the word... "NAAKKU"... It must be some other word of matching sound

I too am an ardent lover of MKT 's Songs right from my Boyhood days... of about 60 years back.

I used to be singing often all such songs of yester-years of IMMORTAL- MUSIC.

Now when any of my like-minded friends like you... seek for it, I recollect from my memory and put forth. There may be some errors.

The other Songs too.. I will try to post here...ONE BY ONE...as it comes to my Reminiscence..

Regarding the Audio-CD and Visual- DVDs ... you had asked for...You can try at RAJ-VIDEOS, Anna Saalai (Mount Road), Chennai...

... where all such old-cine DVDs too are available at a very low price, I heard.

Besides they are also available easily ... and of BETTER QUALITY .. at Singapore and Kuala-Lumpur (Malaysia)... my friends say.

When I was at Saudi-arabia.. I could get them there too ... since the Indian Shops there, were importing from Singapore.

Now I am at America (USA)... I do not think it is available here... for sale, but for hire.
.

rajraj

14th September 2006, 09:42 AM

Song 26.

Movie: Ashok Kumar
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papnasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

unaik kaNdu mayangaadha pErgaL uNdo
vadivazhagilum guNamadhilum nigaril
unaik kaNdu mayangaadho

aNdathile nila maNdalamel
pala eNdisai aadavar peNdiril dhevaa
unaik kaNdu mayangaadha pErgaLuNdO

dheerathile dheerathile uyar gambeerathile
kodai udhaarathile nadai oyyaarathile
unaik kaNdu mayangaadha pErgaLuNdO

dhaanathile sol nidhaanathile
kalai gnaanathile sarasa gaanathil dheva
unaik kaNdu mayangaadha pErgaLuNdO
vadivazhagilum guNamadhilum nigaril
unaik kaNdu mayangaadha pEgaLuNdO

rajraj

14th September 2006, 09:56 AM

Song 27.

Movie: Ashok Kumar (1941)
MD: Papanasam Sivan
Lyrics: Papanasam Sivan
Cast: MKT

maname nee eesan naamathai
vaazhththuvaai dhinam vaazhththuvaai
maname.........

kanavenum vaazhvil kalangi vaadaadhe
kaadhalai maadharai pugazhndhu paadaadhe

kaama moha madha vairigaL vasamaay
karma vinai soozh ulaga vaadhanaiyil
thadumaaRum manamodu thuyar uRaamal
nirantharamum magizhndhu para sukam peRavum
maname.........

viLangum thooya sathjana sangam
vidukka koodaadhe dhusta prasangam
viLakkil veezhum pazham endru mayangum
vittil aagaadhe sanchalam neengum
maname...........

Sean_archer

14th September 2006, 03:53 PM

So Mr Sudhaama,
You should be a really old man...
Have you ever met MKT ??

Any way...keep in touch through the forum......
I shall come with some doubts, some times...

By the way, this RAJ Video guy always say the stock is yet to
come,.....I have asked nearly 3 time and he keep postponing
the date he used to say the previous enquiry.

Thanks & Bye

Sudhaama

24th August 2007, 03:20 AM

.
. Yes. I have met M.K.T in my Early Age.!!

So Mr Sudhaama,
You should be a really old man...
Have you ever met MKT ??

Any way...keep in touch through the forum......
I shall come with some doubts, some times...

By the way, this RAJ Video guy always say the stock is yet to
come,.....I have asked nearly 3 time and he keep postponing
the date he used to say the previous enquiry.

Thanks & Bye

Yes. I have met and spent time with M.K.T several times...

...during my Boyhood days.

He used to often visit one Rich man... HIS ARDENT FAN... in our Town.

Selected team of Elite Fans of high status in the Town... say about
20... used to move with him, discussing about MKT's Thoughts and experiences...

Being a Chota-boy along with my Uncle... I had the freedom to sit with MKT closeby.

MKT was a nice person of dignified attitude... respecting all... with least Ego... Constantly cheerful... Calm-natured... Never loses temper or gets angry with anybody... nor shouts even under any odds or provocation.

Just to hear his songs people used to go to the Cinema-theatre.. repeatedly... some even daily.

And the topic for discussion... whenever any new film had been released?

"How many times you have seen the Film?... I have seen FIVE times!"

"Pooh.! I have seen it 30 times within 20 days.!!"

Rich People especially the Pannaiyars and Zamindars of Village used to be crazy in proudly saying...

"See I have bought MKT Record immediately on its release. I got 30 discs and presented to my Friends and Relatives. what about you?"

And the most funny game of our seeing the MKT cinema... we do not know, how many times... the same show or song will be repeatedly replayed in the theatre on the insistence of one Zamindar.

Zamindars used to send word to the Theatre in advance... and the start of the show used to wait for him... we used to be idly blinking...

... looking towards the grand entry of the Honourable Guest.

After the start of the show for some time... another zamindar from another village, suddenly appears and used to demand the restart of the whole play... right from the beginning.

So when we used to be curious to know of the next scene after MKT has been seen by his wife... sitting with a Stranger dancer girl...

...the next scene used to be the Start of the picture afresh... right from the beginning...

..at the compensatory payment from the second zamindar with a huge family team.

We did not have the Radio in that era of No Electricity.

So amidst the dead silence... from somewhere.... long long away... we used to hear the eking sound from Gramophone of some Rich man in the town... rare in the corner...

"Boomiyil maanida janmam"... Immediately all of us used to rush out and stand in the street, to hear the song.

Some people... not only boys but even elderly... tracking the direction of sound...

...used to go in search of that particular house...

..preveleged to own a Gramophone... the exclusive Rich man's paraphernalia in those days of Kerosene lamps....

...and stand crowded in front of the house... all standing.

Elites or even the Commonfolks... were so MAD MAD of MKT Songs.

With my tender good Voice... I sang "Sathvaguna bodhan" in front of MKT..

...and he was so delighted to hear the exact repetition of his presentation...

...and so loftily appreciated, patted on my back and presented me a Biscuit-packet...

..which I cherished as if I received a Gold medal...

..and proudly showed it to all in the town untiringly... who were very curious to see it...

...even though the usual Biscuit Packet after all

I preserved it for Two Years... without opening.!!
.

tfmlover

24th August 2007, 04:31 AM

watch
http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s65/Tfmlover-Classic/Haridas1944/
Sri M.K.Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
regards

tfmlover

24th August 2007, 04:33 AM

2 song from Sivakavi
watch : http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s65/Tfmlover-Classic/MKTB/Sivakavi/
Sri M.K.Thyagaraja Bhagavathar

regards

Sudhaama

5th February 2008, 10:32 PM

.

....................Was P U Chinnappa a competitor to MKT at some point of time? I vaguely remember reading so in one of those dhinathanthi film history series...(MKT-PUC , MGR-Sivaji, RK-KH ?)...

Like any Business or Popular profession... Competition and Running- Race are no wonders under different categories and so...

...it is conspicuously prevalent in the Cine world too...

..but the Consequence as we observe is the healthy outcome of parallel choices...

...alongside the vying talents of different Artists deserving due recognition...

..while delivering good feasts of varieties for the choosy segments of multi-faceted. public... the beneficiaries.

So to mean... such Entertainment Game-plays of Competitive Running-races... we the Receivers are enjoying... as the Healthy feasts of sorts....

..Era after Era...

...Vijay- Ajit- Vikram.... Kamalahasan- Rajinikanth.... Sivaji- MGR...

...M.S.Subbulakshmi - N.C.VasanthaKokilam

...and also MKT - P.U.Chinnappa...

The last two are of totally different Era... by its unique Category... How.?

(1) Because they were the Singer-Actor Heroes / Singer Actress Heroines... unlike the subsequent Heros

(2) The Visual and Audio recordings used to filmed SIMULTANEOUSLY... including Outdoor scenes.

..while the Outdoor Scenes were invariably shot only during very bright weather at midnoon...

Apart from the heat by weather... Tin-sheet Reflectors used to be staring at them constantly... generating enormous heat additionally.

For example we can see in the Song shooting of Vadanamae Chandra Bimbamoa?... by MKT and Lakshmi in Sivakavi.

(3) The Photographic Camera and Audio recorders were of Primitive standard.. calling for repeated Retakes... in addition to such repetions due to the slips of the Actors and Actresses either by Action, Dialogue or Songs.

These are the main points in brief.

During MKT Era.. his tough Competitor was PUCinnappa... who too was a good singer with a thrilling Saareeram (Musical-Voice)...

Chandrodayam
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/UJCgtGV64S.As1NMvHdW/

..although not qualified Bhagawathar (Musician well-knowledged in Musical theory).

But PUC had a Plus-factor as Stunt-actor unlike MKT.... who could not shine well in the Fighting Scenes....

...but quite strong in Singing and charm of Royal Personality only.

As we have seen separate Rasikar-Manrams for MGR - Sivaji... and the likes subsequently too...

...there were no such Manrhams during MKT- PUC era...

...but people of two segments did exist predominantly.

On their insistence and popular demands... the Producers used to produce movies and Creating matchingly parallel story, songs and sequences...

...vying with each other to prove who is greater and greatest.

For example... when MKT sang the popular Song in Thiruneelakantar... in a rare, difficult and intricate Raga.. HEMAVATHI... Manmathan Leelaiyai ("] Chidambara-natha [/url]

..it was imitated by the song of PUChinnappa... "Siva Krupaiyaal Mahizhndaen"... in the same Raga...

...which was purposively inserted in the Film Aryamala.. which was under current production.

It went on so... in different PUC movies... for several popular Gem-Songs of MKT... later too.

However the popularity and wide appreciation by one and all the public right from an ignorant Cartman upto a well-knowledged Sangeetha Vidwan for MKT...

..could not be either beaten down... nor emulatively reached by PUChinnapps... .although equally a good Singer...

- Selvamae Suka Jeevaadhaaram
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/DJCg0CsX.S.As1NMvHdW/

Because of MKT's dominatively Charming Voice...[url=") ...

...endowed with richer Voice- lustre...

...alongwith a glamourous personality comparatively.
.

s ramaswamy

6th February 2008, 08:53 AM

Mr Sudhama,
I have heard my father say that in those days (1930s and 40s) whenever the producers found the movies lacking in public appeal, they used to task NSK to prepare a comedy track separately and then stitch them along with the main movie, and the movies invariably picked up speed public-wise. Also when the Indu Nesan scribe "Lakshmikanthan Kolai Vazhakku" was on, the cine fans offered big support to the duo of MKT and NSK. Can you throw more light on these incidents.

Regards

Ramaswamy

Sudhaama

1st June 2008, 01:37 AM

.

..
. இறைவன் கூறாது குறிப்பு-உணர்த்தும் செய்தி.!!!

.ஏ.! மனிதா.!! வாழ கற்றுக்கொள்.!!

.. இதோ ஒரு அனுபவ-பாடம்.!!!

[tscii]சொப்பன வாழ்க்கை என்ற தலைப்பில் உள்ள கட்டுரையிலிருந்து (மேலே சொன்ன குமுதம் லிங்க்):

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அந்த வீட்டுக்குள் நுழைந்தபோது `எப்படி வாழ்ந்த குடும்பம்' என்று ஒரு நிமிடம் உடம்பை உலுக்கிப் போட்டது.

சென்னை சூளைமேட்டில், தெருக் கோடியில் ஒரு பழைய வீட்டின் மாடியில் ஒதுக்குப்புறமாக இருக்கும் போர்ஷனில்தான் தமிழ்த்திரை மற்றும் இசையுலகின் ஏகபோக சக்கரவர்த்தியாக ஒரு காலத்தில் ராஜாங்கம் நடத்திய எம்.கே. தியாகராஜ பாகவதரின் மனைவி, வாழ்க்கை யோடு போராடிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறார்!

..................

இப்போதெல்லாம் சொப்பன வாழ்வையும், ஜெய கிருஷ்ணா முகுந்தாவை யும் கேட்கப்பிடிக்கவில்லை!.
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Very many Thanks Dear "app_engine"

Sudhaama.
.
உன்னை கண்டு மயங்காத பேர்கள் உண்டோ.? ("] சொப்பன வாழ்வில்.! மகிழ்ந்து.!! [/url]

...அறிவு-இழந்து ஆழ்-நரகில் உழல்வாரே!.. மாந்தர்.! அந்தோ.!! விந்தை இதே.!!

...தனது வாழ்-நாளெல்லாம் பாழ் செய்வார்...!!

அன்பர்களே.!

நம் யாவர்க்குமே வாழ்வில் ஒரு பாடமாக பயன்பட-கூடும் என்ற அன்பார்ந்த நோக்கத்திலே... இசையோடு கலந்த சில தகவல்களை உங்களோடு பகிர்ந்து கொள்கிறேன்... இதோ.

ஏற்கனவே பத்திரிகைகளில் அக்காலத்தில் வெளி-வந்த தகவல்கள்... சான்றோரின் கருத்துக்கள், அபிப்ராயங்கள் (Public Opinions) இவை.

ஏழிசை மன்னர் திருவாளர் எம்.கே.டியுடன் நான் நேரில் பழகியவன்.!

...அவர் சீரிய நற்பண்பாளர்... கருணை மிகு கொடையாளர்.! குணத்தில் தங்கமோ தங்கம்.!! அன்பு மேலோங்கிய இன்முகத்தவர்.!

காண்போர் எவரும்... என் உடல் தனில் ஒரு[/b] ("] வசந்த மணம் வீசும் இனிய கானம் மட்டும் அல்ல. இசை-திறமை மட்டும் அல்ல.

இந்திர-ராஜனாய் உலாவி வந்த அவரது வாழ்க்கையில் பேரிடி... அவர் மீது சாட்டப்பட்ட கொலை-வழக்கு.!

சுவர்க்க போகத்தோடு புவியுலகில் அற்புத லீலை[/b] ("] உன்னையல்லால் ஒரு துரும்பு அசையுமோ.? ... என்று கடவுளை உளமார நம்பிய தீவிர பக்தரை இறைவனும் கைவிட்டானா.?.. அவர் வணங்கி வேண்டிய எல்லா கடவுள்களுமே கை- கொடுக்கவில்லையா.?

உலகில் எவர் ஆயினும்... மகா-பாரத கர்ணனின் வரலாற்றையும் அந்த கொடை-வள்ளல் குண-சீலனது பரிதாப முடிவையும் கேட்டு... ஒரு சொட்டு கண்ணீராவது சிந்துவர்...

...அவனது வாழ்க்கை-தோல்விக்கும் பரிதாப முடிவுக்கும் அவனே தான் முழு காரணம்... என்று தெரிந்த பின்பும் கூட.!..

ஆம். அந்த தர்ம-சீலனை, நற்குண- நல்லானை, கொடைக்கு இலக்கண-மாந்தனை... இறுதி காலத்தில் அனைவருமே கைவிட்டனர்... தாயும் தந்தையும் தெய்வமே கூட எதிரியாகி சதி செய்தனர்... இறைவனும் தன் மீது பாரம் ஏற்றுக்கொண்டு... அவனது சோக- முடிவுக்கு காரணம் ஆனான்.!

ஏன்.?. சேரத்-தகாத இடம் சேர்ந்து வஞ்சத்தில் வீழ்ந்தவன்... வாழ்-நெறி அறியாது... கீழ்-வெறி தலைக்கு- ஏறிய பேதை அவன்....

...எவ்வளவு உயர் சீலனும் அடிக்கீழ் தாழ்ந்து இழிந்து வீழ காரணம் ஆவது எது என்ற கேள்விக்கு விடையே கர்ணனது வாழ்க்கை சரித்திரம்...

...தன்னை தானே நரகில் ஆழ்த்திக்-கொண்ட அறியாமை.. பேதைமை.!

அதே போல் எம்.கே.டியின் வாழ்க்கை முடிவுமே.!...

ஆம். அவர் கொண்ட அளவுக்கு-மீறிய கௌரவ-பிரச்சினையால் தவறான முடிவுகள் எடுத்தார்.

அது மட்டும்-அல்ல. பணம் தந்த போதையால் தன்னை தானே குணத்தாலும் கொள்கையாலும் தாழ்த்திக்கொண்டு... அகந்தையால் நரகத்திற்கு பாதை வகுத்துக்கொண்டார் அந்த பேதையான மேதை நல்லார்...

...விளைவு.? கடைசி காலத்தில் நெருங்கிய நண்பர்களும் உறவினர்களும்... அவருக்கு பெரிதும் நன்றிக்-கடன் பட்ட பலப்பல கனவான்களும் (!) கூட... அவரை முற்றிலும் கைவிட்டு அனாதை ஆக்கினர்....

தெய்வமே கூட இடைக்காலத்தில் ஓரளவுக்கு ஆசை காட்டி அவரை ஏமாற்றிவிட்டது.! ஏன்.? இதென்ன இறைவனின் ராஜன் மகாராஜ[/b] ("] ஞான உதயமா.?

தன் வினை தன்னை சுடும்.!! ஆம்.

(1) மித மிஞ்சிய பணத்தால் மனிதன் பேயாட்டம் போட்டால்.?.. அகந்தை மேலோங்கி நடந்து-கொண்டால்.?... ஒழுக்கம் தவறி குடி-போதையில் பிறரை ஏளனம் செய்தால்.?... அதிகார செல்வாக்கு மிக்கோர் செல்வந்தர்களையும் கூட பகைத்துக்-கொண்டால்.?

...அற-நெறி மீறிய செயல்களை பின்பற்றினால்.?.. அற-நெறி மீறிய செயல்களா.? என்ன.? எப்படி?

ஆரம்பகாலத்தில் மிக மிக தர்ம-நெறி பிறழாது வாழ்ந்தவர் தான்... பிற்காலத்தில் தடம் புரண்டார்.

(2) தன்னை நாடி வருகிறார்கள் செல்வந்தர் வீட்டு மகளிர்.. அழகு ரதிகள்.. கணவனுக்கு எதிர்த்து வாதாடி ஓடி வந்தும்... கன்னிப்-பெண்கள் பெற்றோர்க்கு தெரிந்த பின்னும் திருட்டுத்தனமாக... படுக்கைக்கு வந்தால்.? அத்தகைய மாதர்களோடு கள்ள-உறவு கொள்ளலாமா.?...

..."ஆகா.! என்னே எனது அழகும் தகுதியும்" என்று இறுமாப்பு கொள்ளலாமா.? ஒரு புறம் அருள்-மாந்தனாய் பொருள்-வேந்தனாய்... அற-நெறி வழுவா பக்தனாகவும் வெளியே காட்டிக்கொண்டு மறுபுறம் இருள்-உறவா.? அதர்ம கொடுமையா.?

(3) பத்து விரல்களுக்கும் மோதிரம் போட்டுக்கொள்ள வேண்டும் என்ற பேராசையால்... எந்த சக்கரவர்த்தியுமே அணியாத வகையில்... சந்திர-சூரியர்[/b] ("] கவலையை தீர்ப்பது .

கடைசி காலத்தில் உலகறிய கூறிக்கொண்டார்... "என்னைப்-போல இதுவரை 'ஓகோ' என்று வாழ்ந்தவரும் இல்லை.. 'ஐயோ' என்று வீழ்ந்தவரும் இல்லை. இனி இருக்கப்-போவதும் இல்லை".... என்று

அனைத்திலும் பரிதாபம்... கொடும் ஏழ்மையோடு கண்-பார்வையும் இழந்து பிறர் துணையில் தான் அந்த மகா-ராஜன் நடமாடவே இயன்றது என்னும் அவல- நிலை தான்

ரசிகர்களின் மனங்களில் இன்றும் நீங்காது உறைந்த... அந்த மாமன்னனின் உச்சாணி புகழும்... பின்னர் அவரது பரிதாப வாழ்க்கை- சரிவும்.!... எல்லாம் இன்பமே.!!![/b] ("] மானிட ஜன்மம் மீண்டும் வந்திடுமோ.? உலகீர்.!

எவராயினுமே... தத்தமது வாழ்வு-வரம்பு உணர்ந்து நீந்தினால்...

...அலை-கடல் வாழ்க்கையில் [url=")
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tfmlover

1st March 2010, 11:47 PM

2010 marks the centenary of the birth of MKTB((born on 1 March 1910 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJ-TDXJgIQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC202yUwBRw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ68ADjKGgs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3DJ9e3Vlo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqLGx2RVgj4
Long Live the Superstar !
Regards

pammalar

21st March 2010, 02:45 AM

நடிகர் திலகமும் பாகவதரும்

தமிழ்த் திரையுலகின் முதல் சூப்பர் ஸ்டாராகத் திகழும் திரு.எம்.கே.தியாகராஜ பாகவதர் அவர்களின் நூற்றாண்டு, சமீபத்தில் 1.3.2010 அன்று நிறைவடைந்துள்ளது. தமது ஈடு, இணையற்ற கந்தர்வக் குரலாலும், வசீகரிக்கும் தோற்றப் பொலிவாலும், மக்கள் மனங்களில் நிரந்தர இடம் பிடித்தவர் பாகவதர் என்றால் அது மிகையன்று. எத்தனையோ பாகவதர்கள், "பாகவதர்" என்ற அடைமொழியுடன் இருந்தாலும், பாகவதர் என்று சொன்னால் அது திருவாளர் மாயவரம் கிருஷ்ணமூர்த்தி தியாகராஜ பாகவதரையே குறிக்கும். பாகவதர் 14 படங்களே நடித்தார். ஆனால், 100 படங்களில் நடித்த புகழைப் பெற்றார். வெள்ளித்திரையில் அவரது முதல் இன்னிங்ஸ்(1934-1944) சாதனைகளின் சிகரம். இரண்டாவது இன்னிங்ஸ்(1948-1959) சோதனைகளின் உச்சம். திரையிசையில் அமரத்துவ படைப்புகளை அளித்த பாகவதர் 1.11.1959 அன்று அமரத்துவம் அடைந்தார்.

இனி தலைப்பிற்கேற்ற தகவல்களைக் காண்போம்.

பாகவதரின் இரண்டாவது திரைப்படமான நவீன சாரங்கதரா(1936)வும், நடிகர் திலகத்தின் 50வது திரைப்படமான சாரங்கதரா(1958) திரைப்படமும் ஒரே கதைக்களங்களைக் கொண்டவை. சிந்தாமணி(1937) திரைப்படத்தில், பாபநாசம் சிவன் இயற்றி, அவரே செஞ்சுருட்டி ராகத்தில் இசையமைத்து உருவாக்கிய 'ராதே உனக்கு கோபம் ஆகாதடி' என்கின்ற பாடல் பாகவதரின் பிரசித்தி பெற்ற பாடல்களில் ஒன்று. இதையே நடிகர் திலகத்தின் குலமகள் ராதை(1963) திரைப்படத்தில், திரை இசைத் திலகம் கே.வி. மகாதேவன் அவர்கள் மிக அழகாக, மிகுந்த நேர்த்தியோடு, ஒரிஜினலையே மிஞ்சும் வண்ணம் ரீ-மிக்ஸ் செய்திருப்பார். கதைக்கும், காலத்துக்கும் ஏற்றாற் போல, கவிஞர் அ. மருதகாசி அவர்கள் பாடல் வரிகளை பாங்குற மாற்றியமைத்திருப்பார். பாகவதரின் பிம்பமான பாடகர் திலகம் டி.எம்.எஸ். பாட, நடிகர் திலகம் தமது நடையழகாலும், ரொமான்ஸாலும் பாடலை எங்கோ கொண்டு சென்று விடுவார். சரோஜாதேவியின் ரியாக்ஷ்ன்களும் இப்பாடலில் நன்றாகவே இருக்கும். பாடல் முடிந்ததும் சரோஜாதேவி நடிகர் திலகத்திடம், "முடிஞ்சுதா?" என்பார். "பெரிய பாகவதரோட பாட்ட இத்தன நேரமா மூச்ச புடிச்சுகிட்டு பாடிருக்கேன். இப்படிக் கேக்குறையே?" என்பார் நடிகர் திலகம். ரசிக்கத்தக்க அம்சங்கள். பாகவதருக்கு வான்புகழை அளித்த ஹரிதாஸ்(1944) திரைப்படத்தில் இடம்பெற்ற சூப்பர்ஹிட் பாடல், 'மன்மத லீலையை வென்றார் உண்டோ'. பாபநாசம் சிவனின் வைர வரிகளுக்கு, சாருகேசியை பழச்சாறாக பிழிந்து கொடுத்திருப்பார் திரை இசை மாமேதை ஜி.ராமநாதன். பாகவதர் குரலில் இப்பாடல், தமிழ்த் திரைப்பாட்டின் உச்சம். இதே 'மன்மத லீலையை' வார்த்தெடுத்தது போல், இதே சாருகேசி ராகத்தில், ஜி. ராமநாதன் அவர்கள் இசைமணம் பரப்பிய பாடல் தான், 'வசந்த முல்லை போலே வந்து'. சாரங்கதரா(1958)வில் இடம்பெற்ற இப்பாடலை இயற்றியவர் கவிஞர் அ.மருதகாசி. பாடலைப் பாடிய டி.எம்.எஸ்சை சௌந்தரராஜ பாகவதர் என்றே சொல்ல வேணடும். அந்த அளவுக்கு பாகவதரின் குரலை குளோனிங் எடுத்திருப்பார். தமது சிருங்கார காதல் நடிப்பால், இவையனைத்தையும் வென்று, முதலாவதாக நிற்பார் ஒருவர். அவர் தான் நடிகர் திலகம்.

1954-ல் திருச்சி சங்கிலியாண்டபுரத்தில் சீரும், சிறப்புமாக நடைபெற்ற நடிகர் திலகத்தின் ஒரே தங்கை பத்மாவதி அவர்களின் திருமண (பத்மாவதி-வேணுகோபால் திருமணம் தான்) வைபவத்திற்கு வந்தவர்களை வரவேற்று உபசரித்தவர் எம்.கே.டி.பாகவதர்.

1954-ல் வெளிவந்த மனோகரா திரைப்படத்தைக் திரையரங்கில் கண்டு களித்த பாகவதர், நடிகர் திலகத்தின் நடிப்பை இப்படிப் புகழ்ந்தார். "அம்மா என்ற ஒரு வார்த்தையை உணர்ச்சிப்பிழம்பாகச் சொல்லி கைத்தட்டல் பெற்ற ஒரே நடிகர் சிவாஜி தான்." நடிகர் திலகத்தின் நடிப்பில் மயங்கிய பாகவதருக்கு, நடிகர் திலகத்துடன் சேர்ந்து நடிக்கும் வாய்ப்பும் வந்தது. 1937-ல் சேலம் சங்கர் பிலிம்ஸ் தயாரிப்பில், அமெரிக்கர் எல்லிஸ்.ஆர்.டங்கன் அவர்களின் டைரக்ஷ்னில் வெளிவந்த அம்பிகாபதி திரைப்படத்தில் கதாநாயகன் அம்பிகாபதியாக பாடி நடித்தார் பாகவதர். படம் பொன்விழாக் கண்டது. 1957-ல் இதே அம்பிகாபதிக் கதையை ஏ.எல்.எஸ் புரொடக்ஷ்ன்ஸ் தயாரிக்க, ப.நீலகண்டன் இயக்கினார். கதாநாயகன் அம்பிகாபதியாக நடிகர் திலகம் நடித்தார். அம்பிகாபதியின் தந்தை கவிச்சக்கரவர்த்தி கம்பராக யாரை நடிக்க வைக்கலாம் என படக்குழுவினர் யோசித்த பொழுது, பாகவதரே பளிச்சிட்டார். அவரை படக்குழுவினர் அணுகிய போது 'கம்பராக நான் நடித்தால் சரி வராது' எனக் கூறி விட்டார். பின்னர் கம்பர் கதாபாத்திரத்தில் எம்.கே.ராதா நடித்தார். சிவாஜியுடன் நடிக்க பாகவதர் மறுத்து விட்டார் என சினிமாவுலகில் சிற்சில சர்ச்சைகள் கிளம்பின. அவைகளை பாகவதர், தமது சொல்லாலும், செயலாலும் ஒரு முடிவுக்குக் கொண்டு வந்தார். "சிவாஜியுடன் நடிக்க எல்லோரையும் போல் எனக்கும் விருப்பமே. ஆனால் அம்பிகாபதியின் தந்தை கம்பராக நடிக்க நான் விரும்பவில்லை. ஏனென்றால், ஏற்கனவே நான் அம்பிகாபதியாகவே நடித்திருக்கிறேன். அதனால் கம்பராக நடிக்க மனமில்லை." என அறிவித்தார். இதோடு நில்லாமல், தனது சொந்தத் தயாரிப்பில், நடிகர் திலகத்தைக் கதாநாயகனாகக் கொண்டு, தானும் நடிகர் திலகத்துக்கு தந்தையாக நடிக்க முடிவு செய்து ஒரு படத்தைத் துவக்கினார் பாகவதர். அந்தப் படத்தின் பெயர் "பாக்கிய சக்கரம்". இது நிகழ்ந்த ஆண்டு 1958. இந்த சமயத்தில், பாகவதரின் உடல்நிலை மோசமடைய, பாக்கிய சக்கரத்தின் படப்பிடிப்பு நடத்த முடியாமலே நின்று போனது. பின்னர் 1959-ல் பாகவதர் இயற்கை எய்தினார். "திரை, இசை உலகின் இமயம் வீழ்ந்தது" என நடிகர் திலகம் இரங்கல் விடுத்தார்.

சமீபத்தில், சிவாஜி-பிரபு அறக்கட்டளையின் பெருமுயற்சியில், திரையுலக முன்னோடிகளை கௌரவிக்கும் விதமாக, நடிகர் திலகத்தின் இரண்டாம் ஆண்டு நினைவு தினத்தன்று(21.7.2003), சென்னையில் நடந்த நிகழ்ச்சியில், தபால் துறை, பாகவதருக்கு சிறப்பு தபால் உறை வெளியிட்டு கௌரவித்தது. (இதே நிகழ்ச்சியில், நடிகர் பி.யூ.சின்னப்பா அவர்களுக்கும், கலைவாணர் என்.எஸ்.கே. அவர்களுக்கும் சிறப்பு தபால் உறை, அவர்களை கௌரவிக்கும் விதமாக வெளியிடப்பட்டதும் இங்கே குறிப்பிடப்பட வேண்டிய ஒன்று.)

அன்புடன்,
பம்மலார்.

saradhaa_sn

21st March 2010, 04:20 PM

டியர் பம்மலார்,

மிகவும் சிறப்பான பதிவு. மிகுந்த சிரமப்பட்டு தொகுத்துள்ளீர்கள். பாராட்டுக்கள்.
'ஏழிசை வேந்தன்' பாகவதரின் நூற்றாண்டு தருணத்தில் மிகச்சிறந்த ஆராதனை.

pammalar

22nd March 2010, 09:09 AM

சகோதரி சாரதா,

தங்களது பாராட்டுக்களுக்கு எனது இதயபூர்வமான நன்றிகள்!

அன்புடன்,
பம்மலார்.

RAGHAVENDRA

23rd March 2010, 07:05 AM

பாரத் கலாச்சார் சார்பில் திரு ஒய்.ஜி. மகேந்திரா அவர்கள் நடத்திய எம்.கே.தியாகராஜ பாகவர் நூற்றாண்டு விழா மிகவும் சிறப்பாக நடந்தேறியது. அரங்கம் நிறைந்த மக்கள் அனைவரும் நிச்சயம் மன நெகிழ்வுடன் தான் வீடு திரும்பியிருப்பர். திரு ஸ்ரீராம் அவர்கள் பாகவதர் அவர்களின் வாழ்க்கை வரலாற்றை எடுத்துரைத்தார். மிருதங்க சக்கரவர்த்தி பத்மபூஷண் உமையாள்புரம் அவர்கள் தம்முடைய நினைவுகளைப் பகிர்ந்து கொண்டார். பாகவர் அவர்களின் குரல் வளம், அவருடைய இசை ஞானம் போன்ற பல்வேறு விஷயங்களை எடுத்துரைத்தார். பத்மபூஷண் திருமதி ஒய்.ஜி.பி. அவர்கள் எதிர் வரும் காலங்களில் பாகவதர் பாடல்களை இசை விழாக்களில் பாட ஏற்பாடு செய்வதாக் கூறினார். திரு ஏ.ஆர்.எஸ். அவர்கள் பாடல்களைத் தொகுத்தளித்ததோடு பல்வேறு விஷயங்களை பகிர்ந்து கொண்டார். யுவகலாபாரதி திரு சூர்யப் பிரகாஷ் குழுவினர் பாகவதர் பாடல்களை இசைத்தனர்.
திரு சூர்யப் பிரகாஷ் அவர்களின் பாடல்கள் தேர்வு அருமையாக இருந்தது. அவருடைய குரல் வளமும், பிசிறு தட்டாத சுருதி பிசகாது பாடும் திறமையும் பாகவதர் பாடல்களை அடுத்த தலைமுறைக்கு எடுத்துரைக்க இவரே சரியானவர் என கட்டியம் கூறின.

சிறந்த விழா. அரசு எடுக்கும் விழா இதை விட சிறப்பாக இருக்க வேண்டும் என விரும்புவோம்.