TG Lingappa passed away

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Topic started by sk (mpessk@nus.edu.sg) (@ 137.132.2.109) on Sat Feb 5 22:58:10 EST 2000.


Yesterday TG Lingappa passed away due to a heart
attack. I found that the archives has no discussion
about him. Except that he tuned songs such as
amudhai pozhiyum nilavE and chiththiram
pEsudhadi I know very little about TGL's works.
Can some one who is knowledgeable give more details
about TGL and his works?

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got this info from the archives: he also scored music for thanga malar, thangamalai ragasiyam , amara deepam and sabaash meena. son of t.govindarajulu naidu. some songs apart from the ones sk mentioned:
kaaNaa inbam kanindhadhEnO
athi mathurA anurAdhaA jeevithamE suga bOgam - Engal Kudumbam Perisu
Platform Mattamnu - Thedivantha Selvam
From: Manisekaran (@ bat-46-222.tm.net.my) on: Tue Feb 17 10:24:17 EST 1998

T Govindarajulu Naidu is the father of TG Lingappa. Some of the films where Govindarajulu was the MD are:-
1.Maya Manithan
2.Andaman Kaithi
3.Manithanum Mirugamum
4.Rajabakthi
5.Kalvanin Kathali
6.Nam Naadu(old)
7.Bagdad Thirudan
8.Patharai Mathu Thangam
9.Santha Sakkubai
10.Vedan Kannappa

But TG Lingappa has more films to boast of. Some are:-
1.Kalyanam Panniyum Bramachari
2.Kulandaikal Kanda Kudiyarasu
3.Sangalithevan
4.Puthumaippenn
5.Veera Amarsingh
6.Thedi Vantha Selvam
7.Kanniyin Sabatham
8.Thanga Malai Ragasiyam
9.Valviley Oru Naal(with CN Pandurangan)
10.Muthal Thethi
11.Muradan Muthu
12.Thangamalar
13.Ennaippaar
14.Sabash Meena
15.Engal Kudumbam Perisu
16.Sivasakthy
17.Chinnadurai

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TG LINGAPPA
TGLingappa has composed for very few Tamil movies, but all his songs turned out to be great gems.

TG Lingappa received his musical training from his father Govindarajulu Naidu. His family used to stay in Trichy, Chinna Kammala Road. This is where MK Thjiagaraja Bhagavathat used to sing. So Govindarajulu Naidu was proud in introducing MKT to his children. Govindarajulu not only was a harmonium player in the special dramas, but was alos the one who taught music for KB Sundrambaal. Later he sold musical instruments and gramaphone inTrichy, but the businees did not rewards him as expected. The only benefit was that the second sone Lingappa learned to play several musical intstruments. In 1940 Govindarajulu took his family to Madras to look for greener pasture there.

At the tender age of 14, Lingappa initally tried to act in the film Kamathenu of one Visvanathan. Instead Visvanathan sked him to sing for him. He sang well. Visvanathan asked him to remain with him for some time to be given a chance. He stayed for a few months and gave up hope.

As Lingappa knew how to play musical instruments he joined the Mayoora Film Orchestra and played harmonium, Mandoline and guitar. This orchestra used to play music for films and gramaphone.

It is interesting to note that TGL had even been playing instruments for Asok Kumar in 1941. He was earing a monthly salary of Rs30. In the same year on his own initative TGL went to Gemini Studio to try his luck. C Ramachandra was there with older artistes. Upon seeing a young boy they totally rejected him giving age as an excuse. The broken-hearted TGL proceeded to Salem to try his chance in Modern Theatres when MD TA Kalyanam invited him. There TGL met TR Paappa and KVM. KVM did not do much for Modern Theatres other than Vannakkili and Kaithi Kannayiram in later days. But in the 1940s everyone was circumambulating all available studios for opportunities. All the three cooperated very well. TGL and TRPappa promted KVM as a music director.

In 1945 or so TGL returned to Madras and worked under the great Sudharsanam in the Pragathy Studios. He had a chance to play instruments in the film Sri Valli in 1945. When AVM took Naam Iruvar in Karaikkudi, TGL played for that film too in 1947.
In the follwing year he returned to Madras and worked under CR Subbaraman. Although TGL played instruments for some songs, he found it irritating to work permanently under any particular MD. So he decided to be a freelance musician. So he went on to purchase modern instruments from abraoad, especially London. He went for electric guitar. TGL was able to play the guitar to the amazement of many. The Isai Methai G Ramanathan, SV Vengatraman and even KVM started to use TGL for several of their songs. From then on TGL was playing many instruments under all the leading MDs.

His debut came in the film Mohanasundaram in 1951.

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It was TR Mahalingam who invited TGL to compose for his films. TR Mahalingam had just turned producer. He took his first film Macharegai, using BR Bantulu as the manager.CR Subbaraman was the MD for his first film. But it was in his second film Mohanasundaram that TR Mahalingam invited TG Lingappa to be the MD, since CR Subbaraman died suddenly. TR Mahalingam and TGL had known each other earlier and became closer in the film Naam Iruvar.

In Mohanasundaram TR Mahalingam and S. Varalachumy acted and became life partners (temporarily at least)untill AL Sreenivasan took her away once TRMahalingam lost all his fortune later. There are more than ten songs in Mohanasundaram. The most famous is of course the duet by TRM and S Varalachumy -"oh.. Jegamathil Inbam thaan varuvathu ethanaaley"
Paattu Venumaa is another solo by TRM which is still remembered by the pre VR era fans. It is in the film Mohanasundaram that Chandrababu sang first. The song is "Hello My dear Darling, Hello My rose charming"

There was a reason as to why the songs of TGL became hits. TRM and TRL who both knew carnatic music cooperated and discussed the tunes together.
After that TRM used TGL in his other movies like Chinnadurai and Vilayaattu Bommai. By this time BR Bantulu who was working as manager under TR Mahalingam got separated from TRM and started Padmini Pictures. This is the banner for which TR Lingappa composed most number of films in Tamil.

The first film of Bantulu was Kalyanam Panniyum Brahmachaari in 1954. Th Director was P. Neelakantan who initially never thought great of the all time greatest Tamil film Actor Sivaji Ganesan. There are excellent songs in the film. The Bharathidasan song "Vennilaavum Vaanum Poley" was first sung by MM Dhandapani Desigar in the stages. TGL got his permission to use the same song in K.P.Bramachari with some modifications. Then Baradidasan himself approved the tune. Radha Jayalechumy sang the song. The song was recorded in 12 takes. Then the best parts were edited (cut) and pasted. In those days the songs were recorded in the celluloid itself. Thats how the song is still alive today in terms of the emotion, words, and tune. VN Sundaram sang the famous comedy song "Kaviyin Kanavil vaazhum Oviyamey" in which he combines light music with carnatic tune.

Chandrababu was given a chance to sing for Sivaji in the film "Jolly Life Jolly Life". Chandrababu was begging for singing chances in this film.
As this film became a hit, Bantulu booked TGL for his other films as well. Mudal Thethi is a film in which TGL made NSK and Dandapani Desigar sing. NSK sings "onnuley Irunthu 20 varaikkum Kondattam". Desigar's song is "Thunbam varumbothu nagaithuduvaai"- an excellent song.
Then came Sabashe Meena in which there is the favourite song of Valee. Shithiram Pesuthadi - solos by Soolamangalam Sahodari and TMS. Valee lkes the female version. There is also a song that was born from the request of Sivaji. He wanted something different. So TGL brought T. Moti to sing "Kaanaa Inbam Kaninthatheno"-based on a hindustani tune. It became an instant hit.

TMS had been an ardent admirer of Jeevaratnam. It was the luck of TMS that he could sing with that senior lady. The song is "Thenraley Varaayo-inba sugam tharayo" from the film vaazhviley Oru Naal produced by her hubby Vengatasamy (1956)

Thangamalai Ragasiyam is another film that lifted P.Suseela to great heights. The song is Amuthai Poliyum Nilavey. The same film was taken in Hindi and this song was retained with Hindi words. Again it became a sucess in the Hindi circles.

It is said by TGL himself that there are at least two songs that he composed, but came to be used by other MDS. One is "kunguma Poovey" which Chandrababu learnt under TGL and sang for SM Subbiah Naidu in Maragatham.
The other is the song "Putham Puthu Meni" by Balamurali Krishna and P.Suseela in Subathinam. No one refuted it when he made this statement.

He then went on to compose in Kannada movies. After a brak he came back to compose in Muradan Muthu of Padmini Pictures. That was the last film where Bantulu used Sivaji Ganesan. There are some wonderful songs there.
1.Pennasai Kondorku Ullamillai
2. Thamaraippo Kolathiley saayungala pozhuthiley
3.Kalyana Oorvalam Paaru
4. Sirikkinra Mugathai Silai vadippen
5.Sevvanthippoo chendu Pole Kolikkunju
6.Kottaiyley Oru aalamaram
are those good songs.

It is also said that TGL had played instrument for the song "Amma Enralaikkatha Uyirillaiye" under Ilayaraja.

TGLingappa is a great MD by any standard. I hope those wo believe in God would pray for his soul to rest in peace. Some of the songs he has composed will follow many of us from "womb to tomb".

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manisekaran, that's wonderful info! can you tell us what are the songs in mudhal thEthi?

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Was he the MD for 'ellorum innaatu mannargaL'??

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bb:

Mudal Thethi is a film in which TGL made NSK and Dandapani Desigar sing. NSK sings "onnuley Irunthu 20 varaikkum Kondattam". Desigar's song is "Thunbam varumbothu nagaithuduvaai"- an excellent song.

:-))

Sriram L:

Did you see what Manisekaran wrote? The subadhinam
Balamurali song is TGL's creation!

Manisekaran:

Thanks. kOttaiyilE oru aalamaram (Seerkazhi)
sirikkindra mugaththai silai vadippEn (Janaki)
and are very
good songs by TGL.

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Here are two songs of TGL:

http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/kottaiyile.ram (http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/kottaiyile.ram
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http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/chiththiram.ram (http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/chiththiram.ram
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The list of Films where TGL had composed music

Chinnadurai
Vilayattu Bommai
Sivasakthi
Mudal Thethi
Thangamalai Rahasiyam
Muradan Muthu
Kulandaikal Kanda Kudiyarasu
Kalyanam Panniyum Bramachari
Rajayogam
Sangalithevan
Puthumaipen
Thedi Vantha Selvam
Kanniyin Sabatham
Thangamalar
Ennaipaar
Ellorum Innattu Mannar
Thayin Mel Aanai

With other MDs
1. Mangalya Bakyam- with,GR and SM Subbiah Naidu
2. Veera Amarsingh-with Shanmuga babu
3. Vaazhviley Oru Naal-with SM Subbiah Naidu and CN Pandurangan

There are only two songs that are well known in Mudal Thedhi. They are Thunbam varumbothu Nagaithiduvaai by MM Dhandapani Desigar. the other is by NSK-Onnuley Irunthu 20 Varaikkum Kondaattam
The others are:
1.agam Kulira Annantham Pirakkum
2. Ellorum Kelunga
3. Neelavaan Nedungkunram
5.Engum Inbamey Pongum

SOME OF HIS BEST SONGS(Those I like)

KALYANAM PANNIYUM BRAMACHARI
1. Vennilaavum Vaanum Poley-Radha jeyalechumy
2. Jolly Life Jolly Life-Chnadrababu
3. Kaviyin Kanavil Vaazhum Oviyamey-VNB Sundaram

THANGAMALAR
1. Thangamalarey Ullamey-PS
2. Aasai Vaithaal Athu Mosam-PBS
3. Amaithee Amaithee Ulagam Engum Orey Amaithee-PBS/PS

THANGAMALAR RAGASIYAM

1. Kalyanam,Nam Kalyanam, Kathal Kalyanam Vaibogam Kondaduvom-TMS/Leela
2. Igalogamey Inithaagumey-TMS/Leela
3.Amuthai Poliyum Nilavey -happy and sad -PS
4. Ariyatha Pillai Poley-Jikki/VN Sundaram
5. Ennai Paarai En Kannai Paarai-Jikki

VAAZHVILEY ORU NAAL
1. Thendraley Vaarayo Inbasugam Thaarayo-TMS /Jeevaratnam

THEDI VANTHA SELVAM
1. Platform Mattamunnnu Ennathinga.SCKrishnan
2. Panguni Poi Chithirai Vanthaa Pathirikai Vanthidum-TMS/PS
3.Pakkathiley Iruppen Naan Paathu Paathu Rasippen
4.Nama Sarakku Romba Nalla Sarakku-TMS
5.Poovaadai Paavadai-T.Loganathan/T.V.Ratnam
Ragasiyathilum Ragasiyam-P.Leela

SABASH MEENA
1. Alangara Valliye-TMS/S Govindarajan
2. Aanaga Piranthethellam-PS/KJamunarani
3.Sithiram Pesuthadi-TMS
4.Sithiram Pesuthadi-Soolamangalam Rajalechumy
5.Kaanaa Inbam Kaninthatheno-Mothi and P Suseela
6.Inbathin Vegama-Soolamangalam Rajalechumy

SANGALITHEVAN
1. Kuyilisayum Kuzhalisayum Venumaa-AMR/KJamunarani
2. Thendral Urangidak Koodumadi Enthan Sinthai Urangathu-TMS/Leela
3.Padippu Thevai athodu uzhaippyu thevai-TMS
4.Kathal Ullam Kavarntha Neeye-TMS/P.Leela

KUZHANTHAIKAL KANDA KUDIYARASU
1. Virunthaagum Isaiyamutham-S.Govindarajan
2.Azhagiya Thamarai Kanna-Komala/Jikki
3.Aasayin Oonjalil Aadidivom-KOmala/Jikki
4. Sirikka Theriyumaa-SJ

PUTHUMAI PENN
1. Ellorumey Kaana Kalyanamey-Jikki/AMR
2. Maaratha Kaathalaley-TMS-PS
3.Inbam Tharum Nannalithey- Jikki
4. Minnuvathellaam Ponnagi Pomo-PBS

ENNAI PAAR
1. Ethir Kondu Varavaetkuthey-TRM /S. Janaki
2.Kaatchiyum Neethaan Katpanaiyum Neethaan-TRM and SJ

ELLORUM INNAATU MANNAR
1. Ennarumai Kaathalikku Vennilaavey-TMS
2. Manamennum Vaaniley -AMR/P. Suseela

MURADAN MUTHU
1. Thamaraippoo Kolathiley Sayungala Pozhuthiley-TMS/PS
2. Pennasai Kondorkku Ullamillai-TMS
3. Kalyanam OOrvalam Paaru-PS
4. Sevvanthipoo Chendu Pole Kozhikunju-Soolamangalam Rajalaechumy
5. Kottyiley Oru Allamaram-S.Govindarajan
6.Sirikkinra Mugathai SIlai Vadippen

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Manisegaran
You should be an avid fan of TGL or his relative.
Phew. I am amazed by the data.
Thanks for all this.

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More TGL songs to listen and remember him...

http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/amudhaipozhiyum.ram (http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/amudhaipozhiyum.ram
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http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/amaidhi.ram (http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/amaidhi.ram
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http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/thangamalare.ram (http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/thangamalare.ram
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http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/maaraadha.ram

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kamesh,
ungalukku manisegaranaip paththi theriyala polirukku:-))). he's our nadamaadum encyclopaedia as far as anything to do with tamil film or tamil culture is concerned. he's an asset to tfm rasigas.

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http://www.themusicmagazine.com/newsfeb00.html

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TG LIngappa has also sang.
1. Somadevaney Yogamaalaney from the film Engal Kudumbam Perisu
2.Oh Ragini Vaa from Chinnadurai


Two more songs taht I like are:

Adi Maduraa Anuradha and Radha Madhava Vinotha Raja from Engal Kudumbam Perisu. It is still believed by many old timers that the song Radha Madhava is the first duet of TMS and P. Suseela. Unfortunatley both TMS and P.Suseela or even others are not able to confirm this detail which most of are searching.

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Manisegaran:

In the article on TGL's passing away (see the link
I have given above) there is this statement..

Lingappa is credited with bringing to film playback singing the versatile P Susheela.

Can you comment on this?

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You can hear the athi madhuraa anuraadhaa song that
Manisegaran mentioned here...

http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/athimadhuraa.ram

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SK
P.Suseela's debut was in the song "ethukku azhaithaai ethukku" in the film Petra Thaai. It is a duet with AM.Raja. That is certainly the first Tamil song for P.Suseela.

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Manisegaran:

Thanks. I read somewhere that endhan uLLam
thuLLi viLaiyaadi from KKK Dheivam was
P Suseela's first thmizh film song. From what
you say, that info is wrong.

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SK:
A few early songs of P. Suseela had made her most popular. "Enthan Ullam Thulli Vilyaduvathum Eno" in Kanavaney Kan Kanda Deivam is certainly one of them. Thindukkal Leoni always mentions the fame of this song and implies that this was her first song. The other song is "Unnai Kan Theduthey" from the same film. Here P.Suseela was able to sing like a drunkard woman, with "vikkal". The song earned a lot of appreciation for her. Next comes "Amuthai Pozhiyum Nilavey" in Thangamalai Ragasiyam by TGL. The rest is history that we all know.

It was Pendiala Nageswararao who introduced P.Suseela to the Tamil Film music in the film "Petra Thaai." This is early history that had been retold by P.Suseela herself in all her recent interviews.

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Manisegaran:

Thanks. I guess we can also include the song,
anbil malarndha nal rOjA.

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The last film for TGL was Kadavul Maama, which I had not included in the list.

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Manisegaran: Isn't KKD's music by both TGL & Hemant Kumar - enthan ullam's is lifted from Nagin (Vyjayantimala & Pradeep Kumar/Hemant Kumar/Rajinder Krishan?) There are 2 back to back songs in the climax and this is the second song showing V descending to Earth.

TGL composed for devotional albums in later years - I picked up a couple in India. So did S Rajeswara Rao & V Kumar. As has IR whose latest non-film score is "The Secret of the Ramayana."

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I saw Muradan Muthu last week. Thamaraipoo Kulatthile was the only one I had heard before. That song flows so easily! Not so famous songs like Chevvandhip Poo Pola etc. are very nice to hear. I dont know why a person with TGLs track record didnt do music for more movies.

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I saw Muradan Muthu last week. Thamaraipoo Kulatthile was the only one I had heard before. That song flows so easily! Not so famous songs like Chevvandhip Poo Pola etc. are very nice to hear. I dont know why a person with TGLs track record didnt do music for more movies.

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Kishore Krishna

Kanavaney Kan KIanda Deivam has two MDs. One is A. Ramarao. The other is Hemant Kumar. Malaysian TV is showing this film on 12 February at 2.oopm.

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Kishore :
what is this IR whose latest non-film score is
"The Secret of the Ramayana."

more details please

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Manisegaran: you get to watch such great movies all the time, being in MY and have great shops like Janani Music House (several people referred me there, but it was closed since I visited KL on Sunday afternoon).

pg: IR is ilaiyaraja. You didn't know this and are discussing tamil film music:-)

I'll report once I've had a chance to listen to it. It sounds like some kind of audio book with background music & songs by IR.

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Am listening to 'sangam muzhangivarum' Best of TR Mahalingam Vol 2 which has 2 songs from ennaippaar (1961) with music by TGL, both are duets by TRM and S Janaki -
ethirkondu, kaatchiyum nee thaan.

Get this album if you see it - it has some very nice songs like 'o jegamathil inbam' from Mohanasundaram (TRM, S Varalakshmi) etc. There is even a close relative of 'paattukku paatteduthu' from padagOtti - kannirendum ondrai ondru paarkka mudiyumaa?

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Kishore:

pg-yidam ippadi kEtpadhu nyaayamaa? I think he has
great interest in non-filmy works of IR. He (or
anyone in this forum) has not heard about the Ramayana book you are talking about! That's why
I think he asked "who that IR is".

kannirendum ondrai ondru is a close relative
of pAttukku pAtteduththu? I think you are
talking about the TRM solo in 'amudhavalli'.
Though VR were the MDs for both movies, I don't
think the two songs have any closeness.

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eu queria perguntar!!!
eu me chamo valvilei....e preocurando a origem acabei achando valviley......qual o significado e a origem desse valviley....e que significa?
um abraço!!!

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Re manisegaran's Feb 8, 2000 post, I am curious whether any new information has surfaced regarding the first-ever TMS-PS duet. Is there a duet of theirs in Pennin perumai [56], which came before Engal Kudumbam Perisu [58]?

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Te first duet of TMS- P Suseela is Azhuvatha Sirippatha in Pennin Perumai.

nanri

manisekaran

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Te first duet of TMS- P Suseela is Azhuvatha Sirippatha in Pennin Perumai.

nanri

manisekaran
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oh bad, RIP.