Topic started by shane (@ ppp-200-6-203.bng.vsnl.net.in) on Fri Sep 20 09:33:44 .
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If all indians read their own scriptures, surely you will realise " NOBODY IS BORN BRAHMIN OR DALIT"its the action and thought. Our ancestors will be displeased at this turn in the concept of caste system.
Nobody reads scriptures as its boring or its aryan or that somebody said so.
Arundathi, wife of Sage Vasishta was dalit. Sage Vishwamitra was Kshatriya, to start with. There are innumerable instances and anecdotes about so called caste system . In most of the smrithis The name brahman does not mean caste but the spirit in us, our soul .
Why is there a hate amonst us. Its the ignorance that is causing this confusion.
I think at this juncture there are many dalits who are
doctors, astrologers and scientists so by definition they are brahmins.
armed forces or police---kshatriyas
shop keepers---Vaisyas
There are brahmins who are
selling goods---Vaisyas they are by definition.
working as manual labourers ----dalits

Responses:

• From: Krishna (@ cache-mtc-ah06.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Sep 21 01:14:29
  
  
  Hi Shane,
  
  Recently I visited Bali in indonesia a beautiful Island famous for Hindusim.. they have only four caste but only for performing functions and some even do all sort of business ....They even practice ancient hindusim of offering meat to all gods.. like some South Indian temples..for Balinese Kurushetra is is the most punnyashetra than Varnasi or others.. they also slaughter buffaloes as offering in temples.. all resemble very old tradition...everyhouse has its won temple..
  
  Now on your remark:" NOBODY IS BORN BRAHMIN OR DALIT"its the action and thought.
  
  I agree that Indians area mostly Dravidians with some Aryan interbreeding and most brahmins have less than 25% genes dreived from Aryan males...
  
  When you say "no body is born brahmin" then how come you interpret the rig veds which says (mythological!!!) dalits born from leg and so on..
  
  This is one issue Hindusim has to disown vedic literature.. amny vedic verses are not really divine nor robust...its spend lot on war againt aryans and dravidians and so on.
  
  http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_1/rig_veda.html
  The one by whom all things here were made moving; the one who put in hiding the lowly Dasa color; the one who, like a gambler who has won the stake, has taken the enemy's possessions: he, O people, is Indra.
  
  The one who is the terrible one, about whom they ask "Where is he?" and they say of him, "He is not!" He diminished the enemy's possessions like stakes [at a game]. Put your faith in him: he, O people, is Indra.
  
  His mouth was the Brahman [caste], his arms were the Rajanaya [Ksatriya caste], his thighs the Vaisya [caste]; from his feet the Sudra [caste] was born.
  
  
  Need further investigation
  
  
  
• From: Aryan (@ mail.waldorf.edu) on: Sat Sep 21 02:21:23
  
  Sudra will always be slave of Aryan Brahmin. Just get used to it. Otherwise, the Aryan masters will have to teach u a lesson. Like that earthquake.
  
  
• From: krishan (@ cache-rl04.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Sep 21 07:14:32
  
  hi Aryan,
  
  
  Hail Hitler !!! the greatest Aryan of 20th century...
  
  
• From: A (@ web.waldorf.edu) on: Sat Sep 21 14:15:47
  
  Aryans and Dravidians - like cat and mouse. The Aryan cat will chase the Dravidian mouse.
  
  
• From: A (@ web.waldorf.edu) on: Sat Sep 21 14:17:23
  
  Now that Dravidians have pledged their support to the fair-skinned masters, we can close this thread. Nobody post anything else here - let it die.
  
  
• From: Indian (@ webserver2.uea.ac.uk) on: Sun Sep 22 07:01:51
  
  >> When you say "no body is born brahmin" then how come you interpret the rig veds which says (mythological!!!) dalits born from leg and so on.. <<
  
  Exactly..
  
  Can you not interpret them like the main body parts which have major role in their duties ?
  
  Kshatriya :: Arms - Duty - ?
  Brahmin :: Head - Duty - ?
  
  Dalit :: Legs - duty - ?
  
  Ok, now if I say Army personnel are created from God's hand and Farmers are created from God's legs.
  
  Will you make a castes called Army and Farmer ?
  
  Later make Farmistan (similar to dalistan) and tell them fight against Army caste because at some stage in history people called Army have invaded india and took over Farmers.
  
  (what a comedy)
  
  
• From: Indian (@ webserver2.uea.ac.uk) on: Sun Sep 22 07:07:58
  
  
  Shane,
  
  I like your post and good will.
  
  Keep it up !!
  
  
• From: Mishra (@ ac870471.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Nov 19 00:09:27
  
  Who has created this topic???
  It's shame on India ...Only thing i know is , I am a Indian and I love mt country . I like my countrymen like my brothers .
  Originally we may be Aryans Dravids , but one thing we all accept , this is our motherland .
  That give answer to all
  
  
• From: Madurai Veeran (@ adsl-64-171-25-28.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) on: Tue Nov 19 23:59:48
  
  So Mr.Indian (@ webserver2.uea.ac.uk)
  
  Are you saying Rig Veda is a worthless piece of brahminist trash?
  
  
• From: s (@ perpube04.lib.usf.edu) on: Thu Nov 21 10:38:21
  
  Another flame thread developing. NO race is superior to the other.
  
  
• From: A true brahmanan (@ cache-loh-ad02.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Nov 21 18:14:58
  
  ADo Aryan and A Pun*dai
  
  come and lick my ar*se
  
  
• From: Mohammed Rabnawaz (@ dial81-131-83-198.in-addr.btopenworld.com) on: Sat Dec 6 17:46:57
  
  Hi all, I have been studying Hinduism and would like to know where I can serve a brahmin in the UK (birmingham as there slave to inherit there blessings.
  
  
• From: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (@ pcp08432749pcs.avenel01.nj.comcast.net) on: Sat Dec 20 12:27:34 EST 2003
  
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  i like stale ksussssssssss , kusu, drr, brr, i love the smell. brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. kusu kundi vvv
  
  
• From: star (@ 66.98.130.64) on: Sun Dec 21 07:30:08 EST 2003
  
  I am Lord Shri Rama. Hundreds of stupid braindead Hindus worship me.
  
  I have a slutty wife called Seetha. I have two loving brothers Lakshmana
  and Bharata. I have sex with them once in a while because they are
  bachelors and not married yet.
  
  I came home from hunting early one day and caught my pretty wife Seetha
  blowing my brother Lakshmana in my own bed. My naked wife was draped
  across him with her plump boobs lolling on his belly and her mouth
  sucking so hard on his big c0ck that her cheeks hollowed out on the
  upstrokes. The erotic scene gave me a spontaneous hard-on despite the
  shock of discovering my wife's infidelity. I quickly stepped back out
  of sight where I could watch them unobserved. Almost without thinking,
  my zipper came down and my di*ck found its way into my hand. I beat my
  meat as my wife and brother unknowingly put on a live sex show for
  me.
  
  Lakshmana told Seetha that she was a great little c0ck-gobbler. His c0ck was
  so big that Seetha could only suck the head and the ultra-sensitive area
  just behind it. With an unobstructed view of the action, I could see
  all of Lakshmana's impressive manhood. His c0ck was the size of an ear of
  corn and his bloated balls were as big as a baseball. When Seetha took
  his di*ck out of her mouth and pumped it with her hand, I was able to
  estimate its length. The shaft was about three palm-widths in length.
  Add in the head and you've got about ten inches. By comparison, when
  she gives me a hand-job, her hand almost completely covers the shaft.
  My wife's lover was at least twice my size!
  
  Lakshmana pushed Seetha's pretty head back down on his c0ck, whining that
  his wife my mother kausalya hadn't sucked him off in years. Seetha stopped suddenly
  and rolled onto her back. I was very disappointed, and so was Lakshmana,
  judging by his childish reaction. "I want a blowjob," he insisted. I
  wanted him to have one, too, and it was all I could do not to order my
  wife back onto his di*ck. "That's too bad. I need a good fu*cking!" My
  friend was finding out that my wife has a stubborn streak in her. What
  happened next was disappointing, to say the least. Lakshmana mounted
  Seetha, thrust into her pussy a half-dozen times, and ejaculated
  prematurely. His a$$-cheeks snapped together and his legs lifted off
  the bed as he planted his seed. By keeping his legs together, Lakshmana
  had deprived me of the pleasure of seeing the penetration. I silently
  cursed him for being so inconsiderate.
  
  When Lakshmana dismounted, he had a look of panic on his face, and when he
  glanced at the door, I feared that I had been discovered. I quickly
  jumped back out of sight. When nothing happened, I risked another peek.
  Seetha had a look of disgust on her face. "Big deal!" she said. "I
  haven't had one that quick since high school." His disappointing
  performance was partly her fault. She had sucked on his c0ck until he
  was on the edge. She might just as well have sucked him clean off and
  then asked for a fu*ck. "I'll make up for it next time," Lakshmana said,
  pulling on his clothes as though he were a fireman answering an alarm.
  "Lord Shri Rama (that's me) could be here anytime," he said.
  
  "He won't be home for hours," Seetha said. "Get back here and fu*ck me
  again. I didn't get to cum." But Lakshmana couldn't wait to get out of
  there. My wife wasn't the only one disappointed. I had planned to jerk
  off when Lakshmana came, but he had been so quick that I had missed the
  chance. As he hurried toward the door, I dodged into an adjoining room
  just in time, my hard c0ck still out through my fly. After his
  departure, I tip-toed to the bedroom door and peeked in. Seetha had
  apparently decided to finish what Lakshmana had started, and was strumming
  her pussy as though the swollen labia were guitar strings. As I watched
  her writhe in orgasmic ecstasy, I shot my load into my hand.
  
  The next few weeks were some of the most exciting of my life. I couldn't
  stop thinking about what had happened. I had always been concerned that
  I would become jealous if I saw my wife fu*cking another man, but that
  hadn't been a problem. Seetha and I were far from being newlyweds, and
  the jealousy I had experienced during our first few years of marriage
  has long since vanished. My goal was to have a front-row seat next to
  the bed as Lakshmana and Seetha frolicked in front of me. Better yet, I
  would tell them what to do to each other. One approach to reaching my
  goal would have been to suggest to Lakshmana that we swap wives. His
  flirtatious wife was just as pretty as mine, but I found her to be
  genuinely annoying, and had no desire to be around her, let alone fu*ck
  her.
  I'm in the security equipment business, so installing a secret video
  camera in our bedroom was child's play for me. I secreted it in a lamp
  fixture above the bed and wired it to a VCR in the attic. The VCR was
  activated by a motion detector. Several days pa$$ed before I got
  anything. Then I caught Seetha in a one-hour masturbation session. She
  used fancy vibrators and dildos that I didn't even know she had. At one
  point, she had a large dildo in her pussy and a smaller one up her a$$.
  When I saw how much she enjoyed having both holes filled, I decided
  that someday soon I would team up with Lakshmana to give her the real
  thing. The little slut came at least three times before she put her
  toys back in their secret hiding place. It was quite a revelation. I
  had had no idea she was so into masturbation.
  
  Like me, Lakshmana is self-employed and can take time off from work anytime
  he likes. I have a habit of taking Friday afternoons off, so they were
  careful not to schedule their a$$ignations for that day. I had caught
  them fu*cking on a Wednesday so it came as no surprise that I got my
  first tape of them in action on the first Wednesday after I installed
  the camera. They went at it for an hour and Lakshmana got the blowjob he
  craved. He also made up for his earlier premature ejaculation by
  fu*cking her long and hard and bringing her to orgasm twice. I gained
  new respect for my old friend.
  
  Although the video was incredibly exciting, it was disappointing in some
  respects. When Seetha sucked his c0ck, her head blocked my view, and
  most of the time when he was fu*cking her, I couldn't see anything but
  his a$$ bobbing up and down. He fu*cked her doggy-style very briefly,
  giving me a better view. From above, his c0ck looked absolutely
  enormous. In spite of the tape's short-comings, I jerked off with it
  several times.
  
  For the next two months, I got my wife and Lakshmana on tape every
  Wednesday. Then I put my plan into action. Seetha and Lakshmana's
  pain-in-the-a$$ wife my mother kausalya are on the same bowling team and go bowling
  every Friday night. I invited Lakshmana to come over on bowling night to
  watch a big hockey game with me. At the end of the first period, I
  asked him if he would like to watch a porno tape during the
  intermission. "Hell, yes," he said.
  
  When Lakshmana saw himself on the tape, he turned as white as a ghost and
  nearly fainted! I told him to take it easy and not jump to any
  conclusions. "You can have my wife as many times as I had yours, and I
  promise not to touch yours again," he offered. The panic-stricken man
  was practically in tears. I told him that his wife my mother kausalya had hit on me
  many times, and that I could have had her years ago if I had been
  interested. "To be honest, your wife gets on my nerves," I said. "So
  what do you want from me then?" he asked. "I don't want you to keep
  your hands off of Seetha. I want to watch you fu*ck her, and maybe even
  join in." I didn't have to tell him that he had little choice. He knew
  that I would show the tapes to his wife if he didn't play along, and
  she was just looking for a way to clean him out in divorce court.
  
  Lakshmana, Seetha and I had our first sex party the very next Friday. We
  were all a little nervous that first time. I made it clear that I would
  tell them what to do, and they agreed to go along with it. I started by
  having them lie side-by-side and masturbate to orgasm while I
  video-taped the action. Seetha didn't mind, and even got out her dildo
  collection, but Lakshmana was very reluctant, and tried to talk me out of
  it. "It seems like such a waste," he said. I insisted, though, and he
  finally got started. I suppose I just wanted to humiliate him a little.
  I tried to put him at ease by masturbating myself, and once he got
  started, he seemed to enjoy it. To make it even more enjoyable for us
  all, I let him stand above her and prove his virility by shooting an
  impressive load all over her beautiful body, just the way they do in
  professional porno flicks. Since then, jerking off has become a regular
  part of our parties.
  
  As soon as they caught their breath, I had them do a sixty-nine with
  Seetha on top. That scene is as hot as any I've seen in professional
  porno. My adorable wife looks like a porno princess with her pretty
  head bobbing up and down on that huge schlong. As soon as she had him
  hard, I handed her a ruler and told her to measure him. My earlier
  estimate turned out to be pretty accurate. His c0ck measured out at a
  very impressive ten and a half inches. "It's a keeper!" I said, trying
  to lighten things up.
  
  "Now suck him off and be sure to let me see the di*ck-juice," I said. I
  videotaped them from every angle and distance and, at one point, I was
  between Lakshmana's spread legs with the lens just a foot from the action.
  Through the viewfinder, I watched little rivulets of my wife's saliva
  trickling down his shaft to his balls. I reached out with my free hand
  and pushed her head up and down on his c0ck. They came together in a
  picture-perfect ending with Seetha swallowing a little of his cum, but
  letting most of it run down her chin, spill from the corners of her
  mouth, and, best of all, squirt into her eye. I scrambled to my knees,
  jerking my c0ck furiously, and, with nearly perfect timing, fired a wet
  volley into Seetha's face and all over Lakshmana's c0ck and balls. I
  somehow managed to get the proof of my virility on tape!
  
  Lakshmana had cum twice and was anxious to leave. I reminded him that I
  expected him to give my wife a good fu*cking. He pointed at his limp
  c0ck and asked me how I expected him to accomplish that. "I came twice
  and that is about my limit," he said. "You shouldn't have made me jerk
  off." I told him to roll over on his belly, then had Seetha get on top
  of him and tongue his a$$hole. Seetha's rim-jobs give me a hard-on every
  time, and it worked for my friend just as it always does for me.
  
  For the final act, I had Seetha mount Lakshmana and ride him hard. She
  guided his big pussy-pleaser into her honey-pot while I marveled at how
  it stretched to accommodate him. I taped them for awhile then propped
  the camera up on a chair at the foot of the bed with Seetha's pussy in
  the center of the picture. I lubed my c0ck and crawled onto the bed.
  
  When Seetha realized what I had in mind, she protested. "I don't think I
  can manage you both," she said. I told her I would stop immediately if
  she didn't like it, then pressed my c0ck-head against her a$$hole. She
  gasped, moaned, and chewed on her lip as my c0ck went through her
  a$$-hole, but she didn't stop me. I have never felt anything so
  pleasurable in my life.
  
  Lakshmana loved it right from the start, and Seetha soon got into it
  herself. My c0ck and balls were rubbing against Lakshmana's c0ck and
  balls. I was fu*cking two people at the same time! "Damn, why didn't we
  think of this years ago?" Lakshmana asked rhetorically. I didn't even last
  a minute, and Lakshmana and Seetha groaned their disappointment when they
  realized I was shooting my load. At least I had the presence of mind to
  remember we were making a porno tape, and, just like a pro, I pulled
  out and hosed Lakshmana's c0ck and balls. I immediately slid my numb c0ck
  back in and somehow managed to keep fu*cking, something I've never done
  before. The longer we stayed at it, the better it got.
  
  Seetha came three times before we finished, and they were all strong
  orgasms. After thirty minutes, I pulled out and shot another load
  against Lakshmana's balls. It was surprisingly sloppy, considering it was
  my third. Shortly afterward, as I lay heavily on top of them, Lakshmana
  pulled his c0ck out. My balls made a pillow for his c0ck-head as his
  warm di*ck-juice spurted into the crack of my a$$ and against my
  a$$hole. Every juicy detail was captured on tape.
  
  This happened seven months ago. Every Friday afternoon for six months,
  Lakshmana, Seetha and I have partied, each time with fewer inhibitions. A
  month ago, my mother kausalya, Lakshmana's wife, somehow found out what we were up to
  and insisted on being included. It turns out that her tight little
  pussy just won't accommodate her husband's big c0ck, which explains why
  they both sleep around. The first thing I did was fill her whining
  mouth with c0ck. It's the only way to shut the bitch up. Even when I'm
  fu*cking her, she yammers so much that I want to tape her mouth shut. I
  must admit that she gives outstanding blowjobs, and am glad that she
  has joined in. In fact, my mother Kausalya has turned out to be a better piece of a$$
  than Seetha ever was.
  
  
• From: muski27 (@ cpe-203-51-172-121.vic.bigpond.net.au) on: Thu Jan 8 05:23:39 EST 2004
  
  To star
  I must congratulate you on your very intelligent post, wow, to think that such people exist in this world with your type of personality is beyond me.
  -Muski
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ cpc1-nfds4-3-0-cust212.nott.cable.ntl.com) on: Sun Jan 18 11:42:33 EST 2004
  
  I have already proved in the thread “Does God Exist?” that Vedanta – the founding pillars of the Hinduism – is a fraudulent, illogical and biased religious doctrine from the beginning.
  
  Time and again, I have proved that the concept of “Atma/Brahman”, the precondition that must be satisfied for one to generate thoughts and feel conscious, is unsupported by both the real life experiences and science.
  
  The concept of “Atma/Brahman” collapses both under the logical scrutiny as well under the overwhelming evidences produced by neurological sciences, rejecting the precondition of “Atma/Brahman”
  
  As soon as this precondition is removed from the equation and chucked into the trash bin, people will instantly be freed from the centuries old mental and psychological captivity under the heedless, illusory and fraudulent concept of “Atma/Brahman”, which could never exist; and so can’t exist the binding cycle of rebirth, caste and karma.
  
  Terminate the illusions of “Atma/Brahmanl”, the Indian society will still exist. There is absolutely no qualification for any self-deceptive imagination of “Brahman”. The imaginative/illusive “Atma/Brahman” is redundant/dispensable.
  
  So far I have expressed my viewpoints about the interrelationship between religious beliefs (also beliefs in god) and intellectual development of the people, through descriptive and attributive reasoning, and as there are exceptional cases, it is difficult for many to see how the interactive process works at a macroscopic level.
  
  Assume a group of people (or society), consisting of a large number of people having varying level of intellectual abilities and also constrained by the same social, cultural and religious norms (or beliefs). If we assign the quantifying figure for all these social, cultural and religious norms (or beliefs) and call it the “Binding Factor” then,
  
  (Binding factor) x (Spread of intellectual abilities) = Constant
  
  In other words, the Spread of intellectual abilities is inversely proportional to the Binding factor. Higher the value of Binding factor, less will be the spread of intellectual abilities in the group (or society). If one can collect sufficient observational and statistical data across the social spectrum, one would see how and why some factors are more binding than others and how they restrict the intellectual development of a large section of people and yet some people remain less or least affected.
  The relationship,
  
  (Binding factor) x (Spread of intellectual abilities) = Constant,
  
  This simple equation (I have derived a formal proof of this equation) extraordinarily holds the crucial answers to what is being discussed here and also to the future intellectual abilities of the entire humanity.
  
  After some efforts, I have managed to compile a list of the “Binding Factors” that I believe restricts the Indian SIA. The list is under two main categories, namely.
  
  1. Religion
  2. Conventional thinking
  
  Under religion, I have identified several factors, which manifested as direct or indirect by-products of heedless religious preaching to the masses for centuries.
  
  In order to keep the population of futile, indolent, destructive and embroiled people low, religion was historically preached to the masses to an extent to secure blind obedience of people through the fear of punishment of “Hell” for the “Bad” people and reward of “Heaven” for the “Good” people. But over the time, religion has given rise to many social rigidities or “Binding Factors”, such as:
  
  1. Misconception of human intelligence or mental ability
  2. Religious rivalry leading to blind accommodation and countless inventions of gods and goddesses.
  3. Wide spread blind beliefs in god(s), fate, births, rebirths, soul liberation, reincarnations etc.
  4. Unquestionable devotion and duty towards phony “Sadhus” and “Sants”
  5. Wide spread Superstitions
  6. Gender discriminations.
  7. Caste system, resulting from the concept of division of duty.
  8. Ignorance
  9. Illiteracy
  10. Over population
  
  Conventional thinking stems its roots from culture, attitude traditions; and to a certain extent, from religious teaching. All of these were invented and learnt over a long period of time
  
  Primarily, conventional thinking demands people’s behaviours in strict conformance with the norms of society, culture and traditions and due to regional differences and misconceptions; it gave rise to some of the very serious social rigidities or “Binding Factors” such as:
  
  1. Language problems
  2. Moral corruption
  3. Political corruption
  4. Regional conflicts
  5. Social and political chaos
  6. Social discord
  7. Disunity
  8. Tribes
  9. Skills and productivity were limited to agricultural activities only
  
  All these factors were at work over a long period of time and some over centuries in forming the Indian social filter, through which people were required to pass, and there were no criteria for intellectual excellence. The transitional characteristic of the filter was defined by the religious masters and social leaders who themselves possessed similar “abilities” and “qualities” and the social filter so designed, had such a steep transitional characteristics (due to above listed “Binding Factors”) that the majority of people could pass the selection criteria.
  
  Language differences prevented peoples’ mobility. Uses of country’s human as well as natural resources remained inefficient. Information flow and their records on social, cultural, political and similar issues were restricted to a selected few privileged figures only. There was no inter-state collaboration and co-ordination, and social planning was minimal, creating an unsynchronised society, hampering the overall growth of the society, which kept people disunited.
  
  Such immature modes of behaviour and adoption of illogical ways of thinking was leading to the formation of a society that was destined to ruins.
  
  The social segregation was turned into diversity. Dissonance factors were adjusted as suited the regional leaders, creating separate SIAs for each regions and cultures. A nation was formed consisting of several states, without common goals, without coherent & consolidated approach, with different priorities, without a communal language and as a result, the overall national distribution sustained the problems of poor interaction, weak interfaces, lack of compatibility and many other disparities among people. Finally resulting into an intolerant national distribution, without national identity, giving rise to regional nationalism. No economic ties among regions were established. Innovation and creativity remained as alien concepts.
  
  As the entire Indian population was previously stuck into some bizarre and obscured mental processes, which effectively entangled the entire Indian population in a state that there were little intellectual activities in the fields of science, technology and other advanced fields. The resulting lack of evolution in the Indian languages in dealing with such advanced subjects has left a big hole in the Indian thought process. As a result, our past and present reliance on English in acquiring advanced knowledge has further left the general Indian public (mainly the rural and poor people, accounting for more than 70% of the total population) totally out of touch with the advances in knowledge, seriously affecting the Indian SIA. Only less than 5% of Indian population are in touch with what is really going on in the world and some 25% just know that something is going on and we have to move along.
  
  People are deeply troubled and trapped in their own contradicting and inconsistent statements and false concepts preached in a variety (in fact, a variety of all-inclusive trash) of the Hindu religious literature. The result is obvious; people become schizophrenic and demonstrate:
  
  A sever form of denial disorder in which they distort their perceptions, thoughts, languages and emotions.
  
  A sever form of dissociation reactions, which can result in several independent personalities being manifested.
  
  False beliefs, which they maintain, despite of the clear evidences to the contrary.
  
  False perceptions in the absence of relevant sensory stimuli, such as hearing voices, seeing objects or experience the presence of an entity that doesn’t exist.
  
  Distortion of thinking process, such as violations of logic, incoherent statements and inappropriate shifts in expressions.
  
  As a result, people don’t honestly accept their failures in grasping the realities of the entire situation and the root causes leading to the failures in acknowledging the existence of a centuries old problem with the system.
  
  Therefor I it must become obviously clear to any person with a little bit of thinking ability, the falsehood in the origin of the caste system, for which the Hindu religion has no validating cause whatsoever..
  
  

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