Topic started by Krishna (@ core-proxy2.octa4.net.au) on Fri Mar 7 01:17:31 .
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In 1996, Balakrishnan and his group (Human Biology, August 1996), from Madurai studied HLA ( Human lymphocytic antigen) polymorphism of Iyer Brahmins, Bhargavas, and Punjabis from Delhi area and showed that all of them differ in their genetic inheritance. Vedic Aryan community was not a homogenous one group, rather it was split into small tribes scattered over a vast area incorporating different gene pools, and resulting in several sub caste within the Brahmanic group. He shows Bhargavas to be genetically more related to Uzbeks, Ukrainians and Portuguese, while Punjabis genetically closer to Iranians, Iraqis etc. Iyers show closer genes to people from Central Asia near Eurasian steppes, but interestingly some genetic closeness with the Chinese and Thai not found in any other Brahmins.

This probably suggests probable route of their migration to south India via South East Asia and acquiring these genes by some conjugal relationship along the way. . Most of the Brahmins in Maharashtra were of two types, one "Grahastha," and other "Bhikshuk." Grahastha were family oriented self employed and supporting. Bhikshuk made their living by begging. Very few K. Brahmins were Bhikshuk type, probably they were not that well accepted in the society. Until recently K. Brahmins were not accepted by Deshastha Brahmins for any ritual.

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• From: RAMA (@ p94234.chnet.ttn.net) on: Fri Mar 7 06:23:31
  
  BRAHMINS ARE WEST ASIANS AND NON-INDIGENIOUS TO INDIA.THEY ARE NOT DRAVIDIANS.THEIR HOMELAND IS FROM SOUTHERN RUSSIA.THEY HOWEVER ASSIMILATED TAMIL INDIAN CULTURE.
  MEANING THEY ARE NOT-INDIANS.
  
  
• From: robin (@ ppp107-186.dsl-hyd.eth.net) on: Fri Dec 3 10:04:58
  
  all indians from north to south are from the same stock.it is only their habitation which plays a vital role.take for example the descendents of chinese and many asians who migrated to europe showed slightly different color,build,height etc.compared to their forefathers.same with the case of africans who are slightly more fairer,and with distinguishable features than their forefathers.climate plays a vital role.are we not aware that the first humans originated in africa and is also called the cradle of human civilisation.
  
  
• From: davie (@ dell166a.utep.edu) on: Sat Dec 4 08:17:37 EST 2004
  
  
  
  WE as ancient kingdoms used to fight wars with bravery. When ever there is a war, most of the young men go to fight war. When the war is going on, getting wounded in the back is considered a shame or even running from the battle field is a shame. Our people had such a kind of bravery The name given towarriors is maravar.
  hence i just say that we people belong to maravar kulam/group.
  Born to be Brave. Not afraid of DEAth!!!.
  
  contrary, these brahmins reside in temples they are suppposed to be peaceful, shy, saaadus (calm people), they are just cowards to say in one word.
  Thats the reason i say that brahmins are cowards and we kshtrias are born to be brave.
  Vaishyas are yet another category who do farming and business. Most ofthe common people will be into this category.
  these brahmins just eat the food grown by vaishyas without any pain.
  brahmins are just a piece of shit.
  these are the truth
  
  
  
  
• From: davie (@ dell166a.utep.edu) on: Sat Dec 4 08:18:04 EST 2004
  
  even genes of dravidians have been proved to have similarity with those european steppes.
  
  
• From: vikramadtya (@ cpe-069-134-033-177.carolina.rr.com) on: Thu Dec 9 02:01:36 EST 2004
  
  dear davie,
  guess u forgot the point that, the ultimate courage lies in calm ness.i am a brahmin with kshtriya dharma taught to me.we r called as niyogis.we were initiated by parasurama, who eliminated all of the kshatrya bafoons like u with mud in ur brains and impotency.plz dont make us repeat the same to kshtriyas.
  
  bye and mind ur words
  
  
  
  
• From: shyamala iyer (@ cache203.156ce.maxonline.com.sg) on: Tue Dec 14 11:02:14 EST 2004
  
  Please do not address Davie anymore as he has already been punished and is now burning in hell for his Bramana Thvesham. He has changed his form into a mongrel before his admission to hell.
  
  
• From: davie (@ cim-dell10.cim.utep.edu) on: Sun Dec 26 16:48:03 EST 2004
  
  sorry shyam
  i shouldnt have supported these dalits and BCs and dravidians.
  i realize that now.
  
  

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