Topic started by Ormila Bhoopaul (@ n17.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on Tue Feb 11 18:34:20 .
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Our strenghts and weaknesses have been identified and it is obvious that there are more strengths than wesknesses.

Most of the things mentioned on various parts of this forum has been around – known to many of us long before now. What have we done about it? Nothing, but write and speak about it and remain passive. We do not even need to aggressive. We can protect while improving the weaknesses of a beautiful nation and race - work on both strengths and weaknesses – Yes it is good to work on our future, but we(those Hindus on FH )also need to join in fasting and prayer to help the oppressed and exploited in re-claiming our true positions.

We on FH should encourage those not on FH to join in this fasting and praying. Those responsible can do nothing. Even their religion claims that ‘Where more than one is gathered in the name of the Lord, that is where he will be’. In addition, we are the majority in victims and our claims are valid.

From our writings on the various parts of this Forum, we share similar ideas, thoughts and feeling on similar issues and have identified the problems in similar ways.

It would help if the Indians on this forum from all parts of the world would spread the word to others not on forum to join in fasting and prayer so we can reclaim our place without any further obstacles – get rid of that 'Yolk'(which I was always aware of as I note Devi and Prakash are aware of in their writings under the thread 'Dravidian Nationalism') from our everyday life. If allowed, it only accumulates. We have to work against it, physiclaly, mentally and spiritually. I think for too long we have only adopted the former two ways not the latter because of our 'Passivity'(a word I used in the same context at Leeds between February to July 1996, video recorded).

I expect positive and negative responses as always the case, but I think the time has come were as a race if not a nation(since we are so sub-divided and spread out in various countries)
should unite in a special prayer with one aim. We can also choose to stay in the modern forms of Slavery which we are brainwashed from seeing.

Responses:

• From: Ormila (@ n17.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Tue Feb 11 18:36:26
  
  The topic should be 'Where do we go from here'?
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n17.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Tue Feb 11 18:38:15
  
  As we know, there are also modern forms of Exploitation.
  
  
• From: Skanthavelu Nadarajah (@ edtntnt5-port-189.dial.telus.net) on: Tue Feb 11 21:43:13
  
  Urmila,
  Good idea! :)
  
  
• From: k (@ wwwcache-a.lmu.ac.uk) on: Fri Feb 28 09:10:40
  
  So right, why do you think the west is laughing at us all! They have divided our country and made us fight amongst ourselves whilst they get rich.
  
  Look what Gandhi managed to achieve, one man kicked out the British using their own language whilst they were trying to nick our salt.
  
  This doesn't mean we start arming ourselves up with weapons but with words. They taught me how to speak ENGLISH in the UK yet a large percentage of the UK don't know how to use the language themselves.
  
  Our PM and President in the west keep refering to the recent attacks as atrocities (which they were)on the civilised world.
  
  Now having tall buildings, clean streets and people wearing tuxedos and pin stripe suits being clean shaven doesnot make our society CIVILISED (HERE IN THE UK OR USA).
  
  Now that is not to say that the entire population of these 2 countries aren't civilised, quite on the contrary, the people here are like andriods and sheep and do as they are told. They don't get a chance to THINK which is why rhetoric thinking is well hated in the west.
  
  In the west it seems that Governments actions are labelling the people of this country as CHARLATANS, CHEATS, MURDERERS, COWARDS and many many more negative things as per the English dictionary.
  
  I have a problem with all this as I want to be proud of my nationality, and the country I live in yet due to the actions of the government I have to question this.
  
  Imagine how Muslims feel knowing that their taxes have financed the war to come, and will be in a position where they (and everyone else) has contributed to the mass murder of their relatives.
  
  Think about what idiots the Cowboy and the Charlatan poodle are making of themselves. The 2 so called most important men in the west can't even use their OWN language.
  
  You have to understand the words you use, not just project them to an audience. Look at their body language, they are trying their best to convince the world to be on their side!!!
  
  Anyway to fight this pathetic game of white is right, we have to break away from these chains of modern day slavery. Now 'coz I think like this I will probably be accused of being a tear-a-wrist.
  
  Kalke
  
  
• From: RAMA (@ p94234.chnet.ttn.net) on: Fri Mar 7 07:13:35
  
  
  
  WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE ? FIST KICK OUT THE ARYANS & NORTH INDIANS FROM INDIA TO WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY BELONG ! THESE ARE ALIENS TO INDIA WHO TODAY HAVE DECEPTIVELY CLOAKED THEMSELVES AS INDIANS .
  
  GOD WILL ONE DAY REDEEM BACK TO THE DRAVIDIANS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY OURS .THE NORTH INDIAN SQUATTERS WILL HAVE NO CLAIM TO THAT WHICH IS OURS .TODAY THEY ARE HIJACKING TAMIL CULTURE AND CIVILISATION .
  
  INDIA BELONGS TO THE DRAVIDIANS-SOUTH INDIANS .
  
  
  
• From: purvmegh (@ 61.1.110.9) on: Sun Mar 9 13:00:50
  
  even the so called dravidians (i wonder if any of them exist in pure form) have come from africa,so if u southies think we north indians r aliens so r u too.
  u southies don't learn hindi because of which u don't mix up with us.Except for food and language north and south cultures r not too different. u southies and we northies r afterall hindus which keeps us bound together.
  when we worship same gods as u do,why should u think that we r aliens.
  
  
• From: US AND THEM (@ wwwcache-b.lmu.ac.uk) on: Mon Mar 10 12:44:09
  
  RAMA IS A SAD 'WHITE' GUY,
  
  HELLO YOUR SHADOW IS TAPPING YOU ON THE SHOULDER LOSERBOY, AND YOU TRIED TO RUN FOR ALONG TIME DIDN'T YOU?
  
  DON'T LISTEN TO THESE BRITISH LOSERS, THEY WANT TO STIR UP TROUBLE TO MAKE US HATE EACH OTHER. THE DRAVIDIANS HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ANGRY AS THEY ARE BEING OPPRESSED BUT THIS GUY IS A JERK, A PROFFESIONAL ONE AT THAT BUT BEING A WHITE BRITISH PERSON THAT ISN'T TOO HARD TO BELIEVE CONSIDERING THEIR HISTORY AND THEIR ACTIONS (THAT IS NOT TOO SAY ALL WHITE BRITISH PEOPLE ARE BAD HONEST.....THERE ARE SOME GOOD DECENT WHITE PEOPLE HERE IN THE UK AND AM GLAD THAT SOME OF THEM ARE MY FRIENDS- ITS JUST THE SAD LOSERS WHO SPOIL IT FOR THE REST OF US)
  
  THERE WAS NO IVASION, IT WAS AN INTERGRATION, THERE WAS NO PROOF OR ANY FORM OF EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THERE WAS AN ARYAN INVASION.
  
  WHICH ONCE AGAIN SHOWS THE BRAINPOWER OF THE BRITISH (OR LACK OF IT I SHOULD SAY), HOW COULD THE ARYANS BE INDO-EUROPEAN, I MEAN THIS WHOLE MESS CALLS BRITISH DOCUMENTATION OF HISTORY INTO QUESTION.
  
  THE ARYAN THEORY WAS MADE UP AND WASN'T EVEN QUESTIONED BY THE SCHOLARS, WHICH PROVES HOW STUPID THEY ALL ARE EVEN WITH CERTIFICATES TO SUGGEST THEY ARE INTELLIGENT, BESIDES LOOK AT ALL THE QUALIFIED PEOPLE HERE IN BRITAIN AND THEY STILL CAN'T GET THINGS RIGHT, SAYS IT ALL ISN'T IT? ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS....HEE HEEE THEY SAID IT.
  
  YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE A THEORY THAT THE ENGLISH GAVE THE ROMANS LATIN WOULD YOU? SO HOW COULD THE INDO-EUROPEANS GOTO INDIA AND GIVE THE INDIANS A MOTHER LANGUAGE OF THEIR LANGUAGE.....WHAT I MEAN IS THAT THE INDO-EUROP. WERE ONLY A BRANCH OF SANSKRIT AND THAT IN ITSELF DISPROVES THE A.I.T NEVER MIND THE FACT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
  
  SO WHAT IS THAT SAYING ABOUT THE BRITISH, THAT THEY ARE EITHER LIARS OR CHARLATANS (ONCE AGAIN DEFINED BY THEIR OWN DICTIONARY AND ACITONS) WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION.....
  
  WOULD YOU EXPECT A JEW TO OBEY A NAZI?
  
  SO WHY SHOULD THE REST OF THE WORLD LOOK UP AT BRITAIN WHEN WE SHOULD BE LOOKING DOWN AT IT. WHAT POSITION ARE THEY TO SAY THEY ARE CIVILISED WHEN THEIR OWN DICTIONARY SUGGESTS OTHERWISE?
  
  AND OBVIOUSLY THINGS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE WORKING OVER HERE, BUT BELIEVE ME PEOPLE IT IS NOT. IN FACT BRITAIN AND THE USA HAVE BECOME NOT THE WORLD LEADERS, BUT WORLD JOKERS AND OPPRESSORS.
  
  HAVE TOTAL DIS-BELIEF IN THEIR LAWS, ONLY THEN CAN WE BREAK OURSELVES AWAY FROM THEIR CHAINS OF SLAVERY.
  
  ASK WHY? WHY SHOULD WE FILL THEIR COFFERS WITH OUR WEALTH WHEN THEY ARE CHEATS,COWARDS AND CHARLATANS.......... WOULD YOU EXPECT THEM TO HAND OVER THEIR WELATH TO ANY TOM,NICK AND HARRY?
  
  NO SO WHY SHOULD WE?
  
  INFACT BY THEIR OWN LAWS THEY HAVE BEEN DEFINED AS MURDERERS, AND THIEVES, AND BY THEIR LAWS THEY SHOULD COMPENSATE US AND OTHER 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES FOR LOOTING US.
  
  JAI HIND
  
  KALKE ANAWKAM
  
  
• From: sujeet (@ 61.1.49.129) on: Sun Mar 30 09:09:09
  
  PURVEMEGH IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!
  i think as people who have been living in the same country for so long a time , no particular community can claim over it.
  i am a south indian and i am NOT in rama's boat!!!
  why does rama want to insult aryans and north-indians? i think he is insecure of himself and thus clings to the fact that he is a sout-indian for support and outcasts every other race in this country! rama , something is seriously wrong with you.... i suggest a pyschiatrist. and a good one!
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n07.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Mon Mar 31 15:16:37
  
  All of you could be the same person or different persons set up for helping one another for all I care !!!!!!
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n07.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Mon Mar 31 15:17:29
  
  THE DAYS FOR BLOCKING ME IS OVER. KEEP THAT FOR THE REST OF BRITAIN.
  
  
• From: FREAK (@ wwwcache-e.lmu.ac.uk) on: Tue Apr 1 13:24:41
  
  CHILL OUT ORMILA,
  
  DON'T WORRY ABOUT THOSE WHITE PEOPLE WHO HURT YOU, INFACT YOU SHOULD BE GLAD THAT YOU AREN'T AROUND HIM ANYMORE....HAVE YOU EVER SEEN WHAT HAPPENS TO WHITE SKIN DURING ITS OLD AGE?
  
  GREY,PINK AND BLUE A STALER VERSION OF THEIR RACIST UNION JACK IS IMPRINTED ALLOVER THEIR FACES AS A CURSE AND A REMINDER FOR ALL THE RACIST THINGS THEY HAVE DONE....HEE HEEE HEEEE
  
  NATURE WORKS BEST....
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Thu Apr 3 13:08:51
  
  From 'Hinduism's effect on the world'.
  
  From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Thu Apr 3 13:05:12
  
  
  What puzzles me is that it is claimed on this forum that Dravidians/south asians came from North Africa and that Aryans came from North Indian. Thus, South Asians from an Afroid mix and North Indians from a Euro mix. Let us for now accept this.
  
  In an easlier posting above, it was found that according to our deeds, we are re-incarnated as a lower or higher class of animals. In a further posting above, it is claimed that 'we are what we eat'(where I said earlier what you eat is absorb into the blood stream). If we eat meat of a lower class of animal not only are we violating the rules of Hinduism, but from what is claimed earlier, we will be part of a lower class of animal. Eating meat is prevalent in both Africans and Europeans. It is not inherent in the culture of either to be vegetarian. They also say that the culture and lifestyle of a blackman (negro) is the same as that of a white man. If this is all true, how would this tie in with South Indians having negroid blood and North Indians some blood of europeans?
  
  I am only trying to find answers and to cause offense. Remember I was referred to as black skinned with negroid blood.
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Thu Apr 3 13:09:45
  
  From: purvmegh (@ 61.1.110.9) on: Sun Mar 9 13:00:50
  
  My recent posting above relates to this post from purvmegh.
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Thu Apr 3 13:21:13
  
  I meant 'not' to cause offence.
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Sat Apr 5 13:50:44
  
  Here it is convenient not to merge the shades, but to distinguish them.
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Sat Apr 5 13:51:29
  
  From: purvmegh (@ 61.1.110.9) on: Sun Mar 9 13:00:50
  
  Here it was found it necessary not to convenient not to merge the shades, but to distinguish them.
  
  
• From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Sat Apr 5 13:52:57
  
  Correction:
  
  From: Ormila (@ n56.ucce5.uwindsor.ca) on: Sat Apr 5 13:51:29
  
  Here it was found necessary not to merge the shades, but to distinguish them.
  
  

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