Thiruvalluvar on Sanskrit and Tamil
Topic started by Karuvayan (@ pcl-b117.lib.utexas.edu) on Fri Feb 21 18:41:50 .
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For the great Tamil Saint Thiruvalluvar, Sanskrit and Tamil were equal. Unfortunately, the DMK, EVR and political donkeys have been spreading a hate campaing with christians to convert all hindus to christianity.
People who read this from now on STOP listening to politicians and christians. They are the worst people ever.
Ariyamum centamizhum araynditaninidu
Siriyadu tenronraicepparidal-Ariyam
Vedam udaittu Tamizh Tiruvalluvanar
Odu Kuratpavudaittu
"I thought about the question, which is superior, Sanskrit or Tamil. Sanskrit and Tamil are equal in their greatness. We cannot say that the one is superior to the other. The reason is that the Vedas are in Sanskrit and now in Tamil we have the Kural. If there were nothing equal to the Vedas in Tamil, Sanskrit should have been said to be superior. Now the Kural is present in Tamil as the equal of the Vedas. Both languages- Sanskrit and Tamil- are now seen to be equally. "
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- From: Long live (@ bsd1.de.comau.com)
on: Thu Jan 15 18:59:10 EST 2004
Ramesh buba, nice to hear something good from you, keep the spirit high man.
- From: Austin (@ prog.newedge.fr)
on: Sun Jan 18 10:09:59 EST 2004
The Origin of the dravidian can be inferred from following realistic history:
Sanskrit is Hinduism and Hinduism is Sanskrit, If Tamilians or dravidians hate Sanskrit, it means originally dravidians are not Hindus, nor do they have any relation with Sanskrit.That means you people are originally
Dravid jains not Dravid Hindus. Since only Sanskrit can be related to Hindus. Tamil has nothing to do with Sanskrit. Only two type of Dravidians existed in past. first one is Dravid jainas and later came dravid hindus(brahmin religion). I think some of Tamil tribune fan will appreciate this. If they don't their fight is only standing on dubious foundation. Kindly do not compare with Dravid Jaina religion with North Indian Jaina religion. Dravida Jaina religion is most primitive and original
Thiruvaluvar knew no Sanskirt, he knew and promoted only Tamil and brahmi (both flourished during Jaina period)
- From: anahata motoyama (@ cache-dc01.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Feb 13 16:01:36
beware the ones named after the gods. they are not as spiritual as they claim to be.
- From: babu (@ 61.247.245.252)
on: Sun Feb 15 10:01:51 EST 2004
Brahmins are frauds, they have cheated whole dravidian lot and even cheated thiruvalluvar logic and made him hindu without any means, when his original name was kunda kunda and he talks of Adhi bhagwan( first thirthankar).
He cannot be related to brahminism or sanskritism.
He was a sraman monk.
Brahmins had nothing of own so they renamed rechristined, fabricated dravidian culture to their taste, by avatar funda and mutilation. Not even a single temple (ancient) belongs to brahmins they tookover from dravids and renamed. This is one of the reason why gods of south are differntly known from Hinduism of north.
Brahmin survival has made caste among dravids and brahmin religion. Even today you will find lot of hindu temples with mutilated jain idols and some remains can still be traced with hands cut or head cut. Similarly in Mamallapuram one can find jain idols head being chopped and from some places even removed.
It it all brahmin technology which killed original culture, religion, language, heritage of dravids, AVATRIFIED most of dravid gods.
The prooves are 100s of stone inscription found dating back to 3 B.C. belonging to Kunda kunda religion and heritage.
- From: u (@ cpe-138-130-247-124.qld.bigpond.net.au)
on: Wed Nov 24 07:23:03
Tamil are aryans, if the language name came from sanskrit then they must of came from sanskrit, and now there just tryin to be english-tamil and adopting christianity and fogetting their real religen.
- From: guts (@ nw2pc38.stud.uni-stuttgart.de)
on: Thu Nov 25 14:15:11 EST 2004
U!!
hinduism is not the real religion for tamils
they were made hindus(and sudras) by aryans ,now they r making themselves better by converting to christianity.
- From: davie (@ cim-14.cim.utep.edu)
on: Thu Nov 25 21:27:19 EST 2004
guts brahmin
ur so cunning
lol
HINDUISM IS THE RELIGION OF INDIA.
RAMAYANA WAS FOLLOWED IN SOUTH INDIA. SO AT THE PERIOD OF RAMAYANA HINDUISM WAS FOLLOWED ALL OVER INDIA INCLUDIG THAMIZH NADU AND KINGS GAVE RESPECT TO THAMIZH AND SANSKRIT. THEY WORSHIPED SHIVA VISHNU ETC
but hinduism is a name coined very recently.
guts brahmin put ur dikk in fireandstop being cunning as i can easily see ur posting in other forums.
MY LATEST FINDINGS ARE PEOPLE IN INDIA BEFORE 500 YEARS WERE LIVING IN PEACE WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION.
KSHATRIAS,SHUDRAS ARE JUST OCCUPATION OF PEOPLE. ANONE AN EVERYONE BECAME BRAHMINS. AND WE ARE ALSO PROUD OF OUR SOUTH INDIAN KINGS. EVENGODS AND IDOLS ARE DARK IN SOUTH INDIA.
thefirst time i read ur posting in the other thread saying some urkrain blahblah i knew about u thatur a brahmin.
come to south india u will see that more than 50% or brahmins are darker than other common people
- From: u (@ cpe-143-238-136-175.qld.bigpond.net.au)
on: Fri Dec 3 08:05:26 EST 2004
RAJA RAJA CHOLZHAN, u gonna call him a sudra?
caste system is just like class system, it got nothin to do with hindusium.
HINDUSIUM IS OUR VEDHAM.
CHRISTIANITY is FORIGN.
- From: davie (@ ecc-24)
on: Fri Dec 3 19:44:35 EST 2004
oh now i know
coolie brahmin
people call the farmers and other business men as vaisyas.
coolie brahmins had the courtesy of kings. so they flourished.
atleast 50% of these southie coolie brahmins are dark.
- From: u (@ cpe-143-238-136-173.qld.bigpond.net.au)
on: Fri Dec 3 20:45:00 EST 2004
no problem speak english-tamil , convert yourselves to christianity, and then cry about how great ancient tamil is. beeing dark and white got nothing to do with this. I'm pretty sure there were drak kings as well.
- From: DAVIE (@ 170.224.224.154)
on: Sat Dec 4 02:25:58 EST 2004
What is the meaning of Tamil culture. It if left over of Brahmins and slavery of Brahmins.
This is what is today known as Tamil culture.
Original Tamil culture cannot be related to dalitism alias hinduism.
- From: davie (@ 129.108.36.96)
on: Sat Dec 4 11:16:56 EST 2004
oh now i know
coolie brahmin
people call the farmers and other business men as vaisyas.
coolie brahmins had the courtesy of kings. so they flourished.
atleast 50% of these southie coolie brahmins are dark.
- From: u (@ cpe-143-238-136-225.qld.bigpond.net.au)
on: Sat Dec 4 18:41:11 EST 2004
oh ohk,U know the song u sing, "long live tamil language", "To florish tamil, speak tamil". Do you know the name Bharathiar? wasn't that song invented by a Bramin?
tamil culture is part of the hole indian culture. Stop Bramin bashing.
- From: jar jar cholan (@ 64.160.151.6)
on: Sun Dec 5 11:46:30 EST 2004
//I'm pretty sure there were drak kings as well.//
I dont know about drag kings, but I have heard of drag queens! LOL!
- From: gopalan (@ 61.1.175.172)
on: Sun Dec 5 14:26:25 EST 2004
davie : MY LATEST FINDINGS ARE PEOPLE IN INDIA BEFORE 500 YEARS WERE LIVING IN PEACE WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION.
unfortunately this is not true. people of this country were killing each other even then. in fact there was no point of time when india was free from casteism or religious quarrels
- From: davie (@ vgtblt)
on: Fri Dec 24 00:56:19 EST 2004
yep ;-0
- From: jony (@ 206-10.istrength.net)
on: Sat Jan 1 20:00:55 EST 2005
ID THEFT & BRAHMINS & thirukural
Brahmins(ARYANS) were indulged in identity theft (avatarism) and converted many budhist and jain temples to hindu temples with avatar and id theft and all dravid budhist and dravid jains since 8th century A.D. were made dalits. There is nothing called religion Hindu. Tamil is product of budhist and jain culture , not the Hindu culture(?). Thiruvalluvar is pure non-hindu dravid. We can call him Dalit with brahmin terminology. But brahmins even played ID Theft game with thiruvalluvar and thirukural
Look at Shankaracharya, jayendra saraswati who ruined dravid culture. Now jayendra is in Jail(fraud). Wonder why all Hindus still worship rogue like jayendra saraswati gand
hindu, hindi, india, indian are names coined by britishers.
- From: Andy (@ vpn.encorecredit.com)
on: Fri Jan 7 16:59:29 EST 2005
Friends, No cursing each others. In Tamil their is saying, (Oru rendu patta kuthadi ku kondatam). Let use be united, Lets us be Indian first, and to the more Tamilian. Jai Bharatham, Vazhga Tamizh.
First let us care for present and future. How many of you really know all the kurals. I hope no one. First think of yourself and get you in right path. We have learn from past, it doesn't mean always boast/ fight about past.
Don't convert or get converted. Respect your eleders and be as you are suppose to be.
- From: satirev (@ 61.2.245.7)
on: Sun Jan 9 03:16:01 EST 2005
So we should not convert idiots into sensible human beings? What is the merit in that arguement?
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