Topic started by kumar (@ wildcat.polytarp.com) on Tue May 14 01:26:38 .
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I believe we all should worship our creator. I dont know if Bhrama is... But if he is, he should be worshipped instead of the destroyer Shiva. I dont find any temples for Bhrama in India. If you are God, and if you are sidelined and ignored like what Bhrama is now, how would you feel? Doesn't God deserve the glory?

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• From: Gogiya (@ palo5.pacific.net.sg) on: Wed Mar 24 00:04:51 EST 2004
  
  Mr. K is ignorant himself, but still he thinks he is a devotee of krisna.
  
  Always this follower of Aryanism says foolishly that SHIVA is a destroyer. Where this people got this knowledge?
  
  Shiva was the first appearances or knowledge on the earth!
  Vishnu - was the 2nd who came from Shiva himself.
  Brahma - was 3rd
  Above all branched that one comes from the knowledge of other.
  It is true.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: confused k.... (@ 62.105.98.245) on: Fri Apr 2 10:34:10 EST 2004
  
  Gogiya - you are the idiot who said that Sanskrit has been influenced via the middle - east......
  
  and you call me ignorant......
  
  why do we not worship Brahma then?
  
  
• From: ??????? (@ 62.105.98.245) on: Fri Apr 2 10:41:31 EST 2004
  
  Mr. K is ignorant himself, but still he thinks he is a devotee of krisna.
  
  when did i say i was a follower of KRSNA anyway?
  
  or that
  
  Always this follower of Aryanism says foolishly that SHIVA is a destroyer. Where this people got this knowledge?
  
  
  
• From: aaa (@ cs6820424-80.austin.rr.com) on: Wed Apr 7 23:31:07 EDT 2004
  
  BRAHMA'S KINDNESS TOWARDS WOMEN
  
  The creator God's interactions with women, his insatiable lust for lascivious ladies, his lecherous behaviour with his wives and concubines are components that form the model of a true Brahmin. In fact, every Brahmin is said to be a manifestation of Brahma [ cite ] hence they have to follow him in every respect !
  
  The legend of Brahma and Sarasvati is given in the following Vedic texts ( Spellman, p.28 ):
  
  Aitareya Brahmana.III.33
  Satapatha Brahmana.I.7.4.1ff; XIV, 4.2.1ff;
  Matsya Purana.III.32 ff;
  Bhagavata Purana.III.12.28ff.
  Kovoor has amply summed up the acts of this vile `God' Brahma, the model for all Hindus :
  
  " Brahma is one of the 3 main gods - Trimurti - of the Hindu pantheon. He is the creator of the universe. Sarasvati, who became the wife of her own father, was the daughter of Brahma. There are 2 stories about her genesis in the `Saraswati Purana'. One is that Brahma created his beautiful daughter Saraswati direct from his `vital strength' or seminal fluid. The other is that Brahma used to collect his semen in a pot whenever he masturbated fixing his carnal eyes on the celestial beauty Urvasi. Brahma's semen in the pot gave birth to the sage Agastya, and Agastya in turn gave birth to Saraswati. Thus, Saraswati had no mother.
  This daughter or grand-daughter of Brahma is the Hindu goddess of learning. When Brahma saw the beauty of Saraswati he became amorous. To escape from her father's passionate approach Saraswati ran to the lands in all four directions, but she could not escape from her father. She succumbed to Brahma's wish. Brahma and his daughter Saraswati lived as husband and wife indulging in incest for 100 years. They had a son Swayambhumaru and a daughter Satarupa. THrough the incest of Brahma's son and daughter Brahma got two grandsons and two grand-daughters."
  [ Kovoor, p.76 ]
  This shows that Brahma considered women merely as objects for sensual fulfullment. Read on about the `greatness' of these Hindu gods. His constant affairs with women throws light upon his insatiable appetite
  
  
• From: '''''''''''''''' (@ 62.105.98.245) on: Fri Apr 16 10:03:22 EDT 2004
  
  //we are still finding out stuff guys - wake up!!!! //
  
  There he goes - his 'I know all, you know noughts' mentality! Good luck - K!
  
  yes yes that is why your mother called you IDIOT-I-AM...........
  
  
  BTW, what made you think that all hindus are vaishnavites??
  
  
  Mr. K is ignorant himself, but still he thinks he is a devotee of krisna.
  
  Always this follower of Aryanism says foolishly that SHIVA is a destroyer. Where this people got this knowledge?
  
  SO WHAT IS HIS ROLE AS NATRAJ THEN?
  
  WHICH SHIVA?
  
  HE HAS A 1008 NAMES.........
  
  unfortunately i donot have the time to devote to KRSNA to be able to call myself a true devotee OTHERWISE i would be lying to myself and the Lord.
  
  And as for the IDIOT I AM - check your facts before you say i used my imagination to tell the story as to why we don't worship BRAHMA.......
  
  'donot worship any deities but me and surrender yourself to me.....'
  
  i believe this is what the Lord said to ARJUN during the battle in the GITA.......
  
  
• From: ????????/ (@ 62.105.98.245) on: Fri Apr 16 10:05:13 EDT 2004
  
  ANYWAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 'BRAHMA' WE HAVE TO ASK WHICH ONE?
  
  PUZZLED? SO WAS HE WHEN HE WENT TO VISIT KRSNA AND KNOCKED ON THE GATE OF KRSNA'S REALM AND TOLD THE GATEKEEPER TO TELL KRSNA THAT 'BRAHMA' IS HERE TO SEE HIM.......
  
  SO THE GATEKEEPER WENT AND DID SO, WITH KRSNA SENDING HIM BACK ASKING HIM 'WHICH ONE - WHICH BRAHMA?'.......
  
  WHEN THE GATEKEEPER CONFRONTED BRAHMA WITH THIS QUESTION 'BRAHMA' WAS OBVIOUSLY SHOCKED......
  
  KRSNA ALLOWED THE GATEKEEPER TO LET 'BRAHMA' IN WHERE HE WAS FIXED IN TANTALISING MESMERISATION BY WHAT HE SAW.........
  
  IN KRSNA'S REALM/PLANET/PALACE THERE WERE INNUMERABLE MORE 'BRAHMAS' WORSHIPPING 'KRSNA'
  AND KRSNA REVEALED TO BRAHMA THAT THE TRIMURTI OF
  'BRAHMA, VISHNU AND SHIVA' WERE OF ONLY ONE MATERIAL REALM......
  
  (THIS IS WHY IT TOOK THE SCHOLARS 50 YEARS TO UNDERSTAND ONE SYLLABLE OF THE LANGUAGE AS IT IS NOT ONLY FOR THIS MATERIAL REALM.....)
  
  
  WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT - IN ORDER TO TRUELY FULLY UNDERSTAND 'KRSNA' YOU HAVE TO FIRST ACCEPT THE ABODE OF BRAHMA, VISHNU AND SHIVA WITHIN YOURSELVES......
  
  BRAHMA - THE CREATOR - REPRESENTING WISDOM
  (YOUR WISE SIDE)
  
  SHIVA - THE DESTROYER - WITH WHOM CREATION WOULD NOT OCCUR....REPRESENTING DESTRUCION
  (YOUR DARK SIDE)
  
  VISHNU - THE PRESERVER, THE DESTROYER AND THE CREATOR ALL TIED IN ONE.....
  
  WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE TRIMURTI THEN YOU CAN ONLY BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND A MINISCULE PART OF 'KRSNA'S PERSONALTIY AND HIS REALM.......
  
  WHAT HE SHOWED 'BRAHMA' WAS THAT CREATION IS ETERNAL AND INFINITE..........AND HAS NO BOUNDARIES OF CREATORS JUST LIKE NATURE, THE KOSMOS AND EVERYTHING IN IT.......
  
  HOW FAR DOWN A MICROSCOPE CAN YOU GO?
  
  HOW MANY FRACTALS AFTER FRACTALS MUST YOU INVESTIGATE BEFORE ONES ACCEPTS THAT THERE IS NO BEGINNING OR NO END.....ONE WALKS HAND IN HAND WITH ONE ANOTHER...........
  
  HENCE THE TRIMURTI -
  
  ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT VISHNU IS BOTH BRAHMA AND SHIVA - HENCE THE CREATOR, THE PRESERVER AND THE DESTROYER YOU BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHY 'KRSNA' SAID TO SURRENDER YOURSELVES TO HIM, BECAUSE HE CONTROLS ALL OF THEM......
  
  THEY ARE LIKE A MANAGEMENT TEAM WORKING FOR HIM IN THIS MATERIAL REALM........
  
  THERE ARE MANY REALMS.......
  
  om chanted through tonoscope produces Sri Yantra!!!
  
  the seven chakras alligned together give the same pattern as the spark that ignites life into a computer......................
  
  see articles on OM through tonoscope listed below.....
  
  http://www.hyattcarter.com/path_of_sound.htm
  
  http://www.isibrno.cz/~gott/mandalas.htm
  
  http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/samten/jenny.htm
  
  now do you guys understand why the NAZIS and the west want to keep Aryanism downtrodden and hidden away as theirs?
  
  it is the coolest and most laid back religion, and way of life there is available amalgamating as many realms as possible as one............
  
  and you can understand why the
  
  and this is why they wish to down trod on the mother of all religions and ways of life....
  
  check facts out for yourself
  
  http://www.stephen-knapp.com/recent_archeological_finds_confirming_Vedic_history.htm
  
  website address for full details
  
  we are still finding out stuff guys - wake up!!!!
  
  Jai Hind
  and love to y'all
  
  Dharma Karma
  Hare KRSNA Hare RAMA
  
  
• From: ??? (@ 82-43-98-165.cable.ubr09.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) on: Sun May 2 12:15:36 EDT 2004
  
  where are you?
  
  
• From: Lucifer (@ lv-65-40-255-156.dyn.sprint-hsd.net) on: Sat Nov 13 21:36:09
  
  Why do we not worship Bhrama? The answer is simple and it is found in this question that I ask to you. Do you worship yourself?
  
  
• From: sheila (@ dsl-tn-009.33.101.203.touchtelindia.net) on: Sun Nov 21 14:33:48 EST 2004
  
  It is simple, once a person has been created we dont need to pray to him to create. But we need to pray to the protector to protect us and to the destroyer not to to destroy us too early. The fact we are alive means we dont need to pray to the creator, cos his work is over as soon as we were created. So to hell with the creator all we need is the protector (Vishnu) or the destroyer (shiva) as for the creator (Bhrama) we can show the middle finger. Elementery guys elementery.
  
  
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• From: swarup (@ cpe-144-132-31-232.vic.bigpond.net.au) on: Sun Dec 5 06:07:35 EST 2004
  
  There are Brahma temples in Bihar and also temples of Savitri, who was supposed to be his first wife. See "Being Indian" by Pavan K. Varma.
  
  
• From: Swarup (@ cpe-144-132-31-232.vic.bigpond.net.au) on: Mon Dec 6 05:55:05 EST 2004
  
  Sorry, the Brahma temple I had in mind is in Pushkar, Rajasthan and not Bihar. See:
  http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22Goddess+Savitri%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N
  There is a litigation mentioned about this temple and Savitri's temple in Pavan Varma's book.
  
  
• From: davie (@ ecc-24.ecc.utep.edu) on: Mon Dec 6 19:02:58 EST 2004
  
  wat?
  no one is the creater of no one. there is no god.
  theconcept of god was created by human idiots
  
  

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