Topic started by john-jhani-johnathan (@ webport-cl6-cache3.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on Wed Aug 27 16:16:30 .
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once again simple questions will not be answered by those who CANNOT answer them bcos it means they have to go back on they BELIEVE to be TRUE...

so MADHU is suggesting that SANSKRIT comes from GREEK, LITHUVANIAN and RUSSIAN languages.....

first of all aren't these languages younger than our SANSKRIT?

so where MADHU lives when birds are born they are the oldest point of their lives, they then grow younger and fitter day by day, until they shrink so much that their feathers disappear, and they are naked featherless infants, and then they magically turn inside out into an egg, and then somehow magically conceive themselves into the womb or birthplace within their mother......

you must live in a magical place MADHU......
is it cuckoooo land?

how can a grand-daughter give birth to her grand-mother????

please Madhu, i never intended to have to mirror your actions, i did let you know what my humour is like......

please understand - when i set up the thread there was already about 4-5 open if not more.....

the first thing GOPALOOOOO said was 'not another one haven't we got enuff already!!!'

and he was right except this one was specifically called 'asked if we can call the ARYANS INDO-EUROPEAN....' and i used the name NATRAJ, and for a very good reaason as well, not bcos i think i am him or anything bigotry like that, but it was a TRAP.....

and look how quickly the flock to the bait, even JUVEN BUCHAN who ever he is, obviously European JUMPED to explain how the ARYANS ARE INDO EUROPEAN obviously thinking i was some kind of walkover gullible INDIAN who will listen to a westerner bcos of his name......

get real guys - i have often used the name 'bowled and caught' to hint at various people that i am playing games and they all fall for it and walk straight into it.....

it also proves to you guys in the SOUTH how desperate people are to try and DENY US ALL out HERITAGE.......

MADHU - i am sorry you walked into it but i did let you know that you will be entering an arena where i will simply mirror your actions, you got upset, accused me of BJP favourtism and of being a SAFFRONISER........

you RAN away with out ANSWERING any of my questions and this battle was lost by KRISHNA AND GOPALOOOO on the same grounds that they JUST couldn't answer my questions, you are taking me round in a circle, i am still waiting for someone to REFUTE what has been said and i will say it again to hear what you have to say......

otherwise indians you are all witnessing this act;

10x53 being used 5000BCE - 1500 years before your proposed theory

as for 'the eminent idiologist....' who is suggesting that SANSKRIT comes from European languages without considering the logic that SANSKRIT is older than these languages and therefore making it quite impossible for EUROPEAN lingualistics to be amalgamated to form SANSKRIT,

a grand daughter cannot give birth to her grandmother, bcos she herself wouldnot exist if it wasnot for her grandmother in the first place,
it doesn't get SIMPLER THAN THAT

- unless you can say to me that these languages you are talking about PRE-DATE SANSKRIT due to new evidence......

then i will start taking this silly cuckooo land theory remotely seriously until then we have no grounds what so ever to possibly presume they ever came from EUROPE........

no metals - please ask questions on the VIMAANIKA shaastra please, my friends here pointed out that you behave in a similar fashion to that guy KRISHNA......if you are him stop hiding, you made a mistake you got REFUTED, so what, that is what forums are for.......

i would have loved to have shown the sentence

ishvar alla teru naam

in SANSAR but there is no computer package that houses the SANSAR alphabet.......

call my bluff, for ages you guys dismissed the Vimanika SHASTRA and now it is there you are scared to see the TRUTH for yourselves......

remember it has possibly come from earlier TAMIL texts.......

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• From: truth (@ webport-cl6-cache1.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Thu Aug 28 14:56:12 EDT 2003
  
  
  SHOW ME ONE GENUINE ARCHEOLOGIST/INDOLOGIST WHO WILL ENDORSE THIS SAFFRON THEORY ( except B.B Lal & co )
  
  who is going to believe the il-logical theory that grand-daughters give birth to their grand-mothers and younger languages give birth and influence older ones.......
  
  only those who live in cuckooo land
  
  guys i am no saffronizer - look the chapter on the stonehenge was opened for 2 reasons- the main being that it creates new revenue and becomes a wonder of the world and a tourist atrraction, it also opens new doors to ancient chapters, this is part of my project here in the UK and have no political motives, just wish to see unification and rainbows......
  
  hence the flag and 4 cornered buildings.....
  
  
• From: sasra no kako no dhikro bego rumooochoooo (@ webport-cl6-cache1.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Thu Aug 28 15:01:22 EDT 2003
  
  these are the projects i am working on - you guys judge if i have any political motives or to saffronize anyones culture......
  
  he is acting evasive and hates being REFUTED
  
  A.N.L -ANTI NAZI LEAGUE
  A.F.A - ANTI FACIST ACTION
  
  R.A.D.I.C.A.L (RACIAL AWARENESS DAY IN COLOUR AND LIGHT) - a project to AMALGAMATE global cultures hence the NEW FLAG OF PEACE, and the 4 cornered religous museum/building/church/temple/artwork....
  
  D.A.A.P.A - DIRECT ACTION AGAINST POVERY ABORAD - THIS IS THE REASON WHY I OPENED THE SRI LANKAN STONEHENGE THREAD, SO I CAN ORGANIZE AND HELP YOU OUT AND INCREASE YOUR TOURISM AND REVEAL TO THE REST OF THE WORLD A CHAPTER THAT HASN'T BEEN OPENED YET AND LET THE WORLD KNOW A BIT MORE ABOUT YOU GUYS? WHAT THE HELLS YOUR PROBLEM MADHURI? THINK ABOUT IT - I AM IN THE UK, HAVE NO TIME FOR POLITICAL MOTIVES, JUST TRUTH, AND WISH TO SEE INDIA GET OUT OF DEBT SO PEOPLE STOP MOCKING US, I HAVE NO TIME TO SEE DIVIDE OK?
  
  D.A.A.N - DIRECT ACTION AGAINST NAZIS
  
  THIS IS MY OWN PERSONAL GROUP - WE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE DISPLAYED TO PEOPLE THE REASONS WHY THER E WAS NO INVASION. AND EVEN WHITE PEOPLE THEMSELVES ARE ACCEPTING LOGIC OVER REPORTS CREATED BY NAZI SYMPATHETIC PEOPLE.
  
  you guys decide
  
  
• From: prussian is the oldest language in cuckoooo land - therefore confirming the ARYAN INVASION THEORY - hahahahaha (@ webport-cl6-cache1.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Thu Aug 28 17:09:50 EDT 2003
  
  Recent archaeological evidence also shows that most of the so-called "Indus River" valley peoples lived in the Sarasvati River, which is mentioned in the Vedic manuscripts as a homeland. And, there is no biological or archaeological evidence of a massive invasion of people of a different race.
  
  unless of course they were imaginary......
  
  of course the FINNISH Indiologists book will be universally accepted bcos he has a NAZI motive you bewildered young man!!!!!1
  
  PRUSSIAN - the language of the BALTICs cannot be compared to SANSKRIT, and yes your Harvard friends might say this, might say that but they also thought the world was flat.........
  
  no discovery of any pre-histori civilisation as advanced as ours has been found, even though the 3-d map, amongst evidence of NANO technology has been found in the URAL region which doesn't suprise me because 'we've been here, done that before....'
  
  so the VIMAANIKA SHAASTRA amongst ancient NANO technology in the past is not suprising, thats why we are on a re-run of the old days.........
  
  look how a specific race were quick to enslave all darkies, kill them off and start taking over land like the world was going out of fashion tomorrow........
  
  anyway the ARYAN way will always prevail, just like nature prevails over concrete............
  
  the old PRUSSIAN language you presume to be the basis of VEDIC knowledge is so laughable that universe is laughing at these laughable inventive brainwashing tactics.......
  
  5500bc they reckon is the earliest trace of PRUSSIAN........
  
  i know our neck of the woods is going to reveal a hell of alot more to send 'tamachas' all the way up the spines of ANY RACIST race who wishes to DENY us INDIANS of our history...............
  
  MADHU also said i only wanted to ignore his recommended sites - i have read them and they are horribly wrong - the URAL region where PRUSSIAN language comes from is more RECENT by so many millenia that you would find it unbelievable that it could have ever have been suggested in the first place, especially when you know of SANSAR.
  
  they don't answer anything my dear friend, only the white mans version, the NAZI flavoured version............
  
  besides MADHU accused me of uniting HINDUS, well whats your philosophy, lets be divided and RULED.
  
  sell your soul if you like, i like mine to be warm yet cold if needed, and am on one payroll only....
  
  that is of DHARMA, and like i said enlighten me on the BRAHMINAL imperialism if IT EVER happened and i will understand a bit more about your anger.......
  
  
  
• From: Miss Vimatika Shastri (@ webport-cl4-cache5.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Thu Aug 28 18:21:40 EDT 2003
  
  i have also just read on the INDIAN governments reports to dismiss TAMIL as the bearer of SANSKRIT which i totally disagree on, so i can see where your anger comes from TAMILS....
  
  i don't know all this ok?
  i have said time and time again, communicate with me and i will know a bit more about your history, as soon as i realised that i was on a TAMIL site i picked out as much information as i could and set up a thread to show i have no interest in advertising SANSKRIT, or saffronizing your culture HENCE the STONEHENGE thread, i didn't even know of the DIVIDE until now OK?
  
  i still have lots of very positive information on your side of the world....
  
  just communicate and we can open doors for each other, like i said i am not religous, nor am i a politically motivated person, just wish for us to rise high as a country that has faced an ass-kicking like no country has in the history of mankind....all of you.
  
  what is wrong or saffronizing about me wanting India to come up?
  
  or me opening the thread on the stonehenge, which opens new doors to ancient chapters that can help your tourism industry and give the world a chance to see a bit of your realm that connects to the other stonehenges around the world - like the AMERICAN INDIAN stonehenge made of boulders....
  
  the one in your neck of woods is described as being exactly the same as the one in ENGLAND ok so i have no political agenda - just want everyone to chill out, leave old battles in the past where they belong, and enjoy life as it should be enjoyed......
  
  stop fighting me MADHU, instead of wasting negative energies find me more info on this structure, even a photograph or even confirmation and we can meet on a positive platform, forget the ARYAN INVASION crap, read the VIMAANIKA SHAASTRA thread, the proper one OK.
  
  i have nothing to hide,
  and explain why i have changed too.
  
  you like the flag, what about the 4 cornered building?
  
  and moreover find out about the TALMUDRA and the STONEHENGE and we'll have something positive to talk about.....oh yeah please try and find out about SANSAR and see how i already KNOW how beautiful TAMIL is without having to study it.
  
  please do that and you will see what i see, and you won't be bothered about the ARYANS, i only opened that 'can they be called INDO-EUROPEAN' thread to prove to western hindus and white friends and students; how desperate WHITE EUROPEANS are to jump at the chance if given an inch.....JUVEN BUCHAN....being one of them....
  
  read what he said....he presumed i will believe what he believes without stating anything to back his statement......
  
  we have been monitoring this site for ages which is why i have to beg for the inappropriate methods of mind games i had to use to get the desired results to show 'how texts of disinformation such as the ARYAN INVASION THEORY' can cause mass chaos and great hostility between flesh and blood.......
  
  it has been part of a bigger social project i am working on, i am sorry you walked into it MADHU.
  
  and to all those who prior to this announcement thought my 'methods were unscholarly', rude, racist, extreme, fundamental or offensive in anyway then please understand i did what i had to do to PROVE to people how much it is affecting my homeland.
  
  i needed to make people crack - it worked and it was the white people i wanted to catch out not you DRAVIDIANS......
  
  which is why it is only recently i figured out how badly the divide and conquer is working, i even said MADHU 'I AM WILLING TO ACCEPT THE ARYAN INVASION ACTUALLY HAPPENED, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT NEVER....'
  
  How much fairer can my comments be?
  
  Anyway - the American racists came on saying EXACTLY what i wanted them to say.....
  
  'We love you SOUTH INDIANS bcos you convert to Christianity so easily.......and you also make cheap computer programmers.....'
  
  my point exactly - they have even made a product after you guys in the WEST - or in the USA to be more precise......
  
  they are a set of gloves called 'HANDY HINDUS' implying that you DRAVIDIANS are their puppets and are doing the hard work for them, meaning dividing INDIA, and also doing all the NASA and computer programming etc
  
  if you don't believe me then check out the A.H.A.D site and you can view the products for yourselves........
  
  i have nothing to hide and am batting for INDIA not for NORTH INDIA, or SOUTH INDIA, but all of it hence the flag ok?
  
  if they are making products laughing at you guys what makes you think that you are liked by them except for doing their dirty work.....
  
  please check the sites out for yourselves, like the v.shaastra i have shuffled and laid the cards out face up, meaning nothing to hide.
  
  oh yeah - i am also part of B.H.A.D British Hindus Against Defamation
  
  so once again no divide seen between us ok?
  
  hence
  
  divide and conquer
  one kills another
  brother kills brother
  
  like i said it - this site has been viewed to display how much 'disinformation' can cause problems in communities, and the people have seen enough and like me want to move on to other chapters - hence the full thread on the v.shaastra has been opened to make you understand the importance of INDIA keeping OUR title to OURselves........
  
  if SANSKRIT comes from TAMIL then the TRUTH will come out as it ALWAYS does.
  
  so please stop fighting me - i apologise you walked into my web, but it helped me display the TRUTH, and i needed to do no EXPLAINING to my friends and colleauges of how affective the divide has been.
  
  lets move on to more interesting topics bcos i am sure more and more evidence will creep up as i breath, as you speak, as i fart, as you grin and as long we both live, hard evidence DISPROVING the invasion theory......
  
  Lets move on and open new doors to ancient connections, its more positive, like the flag and the new museum.
  
  now that i have explained why i behaved in such a manner to set the traps in order for me to use the term 'bowled and caught' to once again mark the dates, and replies as each one was REFUTED, so sorry about any confusion my way of communicating may have seemed and hope people UNDERSTAND I did what i had to, even if it seemed unscholarly in the eyes of others, i am no scholar and only interested in INDIAS interests.
  
  i am also the guy who suggested that if ever the diamonds are to be returned to INDIA, they should all be thrown into a live volcano infront of the world to show that materialistic things don't matter and to return them to the EARTH where they belong......do i sound like someone FANATICAL?
  
  it would be an insult to keep them on show, look how much death those useless jewels have caused, it would be an insult to those who died because of it.......
  
  i also created this sentence so the human race may TRANSCEND in intelligence, not to wear orange robes and chant all day, but to help create a better safe world for all of us, green, black, orange, yellow, blue and anyone else who i missed out.
  
  actions MAY speak louder than words,
  but words will TRUELY display your actions,
  
  catch me drift?
  
  just like finding that sentence
  
  ISHVAR ALLA TERU NAM
  EESHWAR ULLA TERU NAM
  YISHVARA ALLA TERU NAM
  
  it unites our part of the world in a SENSIBLE and peaceful way without the need for raising the sword or even tempers......
  
  defuse the heat,
  and then we can meet,
  to share a seat,
  so we can eat.
  
  until that has been achieved, the world ain't smiling for anyone except the rich and the powerful and i ain't having that.
  
  lets move on to the
  
  TALMUDRA
  V.SHAASTRA
  SRI LANKAs STONEHENGE
  SANSAR chapter
  
  and the reason why i keep changing my name bcos i have no desire to be KNOWN, so i make random names up, the best pieces i go under the name of TRUTH, bcos it will more than likely speak it, when i am playful, i will use that term, and you know i will call my self 'gamra no gando' to mock mylsef, so you can call me what you like MADHU.
  
  i have used this site enough this time round to achieve what i needed to, lets move on to something else like those topics above, and once again apologies that you were stung into my trap, but the title NATRAJ should have warned you, and then i also warned you that i will simply mirror your actions, and the only people who got offensive to me were the ones that were REFUTED which helped the pyschlogical side of my little social experiment/debate.
  
  text books can say allsorts of things, but they take away your ability to think for yourself, never surrender you mind and your freedom to think to any texts.
  
  keep in touch
  
  jai hind
  
  and i will post you some very interesting brand new information that will make you BELIEVE....
  
  once again sorry for the entrapment, but it was needed to PROVE to the WESTERN world that divide and conquer can work, and also wanted you guys to see for yourselves how the USA see you..... as in HANDY HINDUS to the point where they make a product after you guys simply indicating that you are puppets, nothing more......
  
  READ AND INVESTIGATE OUTSIDE OF YOUR PARAMETERS AND YOU WILL SEE A NEW WORLD HIDING BEHIND GREY CLOUDS.......
  
  
• From: friend (@ webport-cl6-cache3.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Tue Sep 2 16:58:58 EDT 2003
  
  madhu bhai - where are you hiding matey?
  
  cat got your tongue?
  
  

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