Topic started by suma144 (@ 203.106.182.158) on Wed Jan 24 09:47:41 .
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nameste...we know that our india full of advantages in medical and also scientific recoveries, but why india still classified under third world country? we are more productive in scientific than other countries even some of countries need our expertise in for their development..why..why and why this situation happened..see indian known as bollywood and mollywood..what u can find with this?compare with hollywood not only they productive in cinema but living standard of people also very high..but at india you can see any living standard between local people..all concord by local actor and actress..our malaysian lecturer opinion that the vanishment of india own to actress and actor..they keep indias money for their own need but even some of them still helping to rotary club..my opinion my pay more to cinemas actor/actress...they are not gods to determine indias future...less their payment and use money to develop indias peoples...what is your opinio?remember we are first civilized in this world but our country why still in backstep?

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• From: Star (@ adsl-68-77-31-52.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) on: Sat May 8 15:16:34 EDT 2004
  
  "During the pre-Buddhism vedic period, the hymns of the Rig-Veda praised the gods for worldly benefits such as wealth, health, long life, protection and victory over their enemies.
  
  “Let those who have no weapons suffer sorrow”
  
  - Rig-Veda IV: 5:14
  
  This is what the Indian kings and warriors thought about the power and importance of weapons in defeating their enemies.
  
  This was a pre-Buddhism, vedic period.
  
  However, due to various evils of vedic teachings and traditions such as caste system, animal sacrifices, rituals and many nefarious vedic traditions, Buddha was not happy with the situation, he thoroughly rejected the teaching of Vedas and he did not treat Vedas more than a deficient, deluded and biased doctrine.
  
  Gradually, Buddhism gained popularity and the Emperor Ashok, after converting to Buddhism; he spread the Buddhism all over Asia and to the far-flung corners of the globe.
  
  Buddhism flourished and survived in India until about 800-900AD when Adi Shankar & Co., who were too envious towards the dominance of Buddhism, viciously started to attack Buddhism and started their religious and political war against Buddhists and Buddhism. These vedic religious war mongers didn’t rest in peace until they brainwashed every Indian with their vedic trash and until they driven the Buddhism out of India.
  
  Such mindless, selfish religious wars eventually paralysed the entire Indian masses and lead entire India into becoming an easy pray for outside invaders."
  
  Absolute rubbish. This idiot is so desperate to blame colonialism on Vedanta, he can't understand the most basic of historical facts: gunpowder and cannon, not the native ppls, allowed Europeans to colonialize the world. As for India, India was not even controlled by the Britain initially, but a trading company!
  
  India
  
  "India was at the heart of the British Empire but it was initially controlled not by the British government but by the East India Company . This huge company, chartered 1600, set up a number of factories, as their trading posts were called, and steadily increased its possessions and the territories over which it held treaty rights until its power extended from Aden in Arabia to Penang in Malaya, both vital ports of call for company vessels plying between Britain, India, and China. The East India Company was the most powerful private company in history, controlling India partly by direct rule and partly by a system of alliances with Indian princes, maintained by the Company's powerful army. The company's political power was ended by the Indian Mutiny 1857. Although this revolt was put down, it resulted in the Crown taking over the government of India 1858; Queen Victoria was proclaimed empress of India 1 Jan 1877. The British army fought two wars with Afghanistan (1839-41 and 1878-80) to protect India's northwest frontier and invaded Tibet 1904. British India gained independence as the two dominions of India and Pakistan 1947. In 1950 India became a republic but remained a member of the Commonwealth."
  
  http://pages.britishlibrary.net/empirehist/history.html
  
  Perhaps Her Majesty's Heathen Arselicker Sir Rohit should open a history book for a change.
  
  
• From: Star (@ adsl-68-77-31-52.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) on: Sat May 8 15:20:10 EDT 2004
  
  "This is exactly what Swami Vivekananda said in his lecture given at the Parliament of Religions held at Chicago on 26th September 1893 about the series of foreign invasions of India"
  
  A convenient half-quote by the atheist clown, taken way out of context. Here is what the Swami said in full, from the same website:
  
  "Hinduism cannot live without Buddhism, nor Buddhism without Hinduism. Then realise what the separation has shown to us, that the Buddhists cannot stand without the brain and philosophy of the Brahmins, nor the Brahmin without the heart of the Buddhist. This separation between the Buddhists and the Brahmins is the cause of the downfall of India. That is why India is populated by three hundred millions of beggars, and that is why India has been the slave of conquerors for the last thousand years. Let us then join the wonderful intellect of the Brahmins with the heart, the noble soul, the wonderful humanising power of the Great Master."
  
  In other words, Buddhism is nothing without Vedic philosophy.
  
  
• From: Star (@ adsl-68-77-31-52.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) on: Sat May 8 15:26:29 EDT 2004
  
  Now read what this double-dealer, mendacious, unreliable and dishonest idiot Star’s says in his posts in other threads:
  
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  “Should Pakistan be finished off”
  Topic started by subodh gupta (@ 210.18.34.6) on Sun Sep 9 03:30:32. All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
  
  From: Star (@ dial0-015.dialin.uic.edu) on: Mon Mar 22 23:47:53
  
  Finish it off now.
  
  From: Star (@ dial0-192.dialin.uic.edu) on: Sun Apr 4 17:11:07 EDT 2004
  
  ………………Anyway, when India nukes Pakistan with all the JAI SHRI RAM missles, Musharaf, jihadi, and madrassa will all be crushed to STONE like PEDOPHILE MUHAMMED'S toilet in MECCA, the KABA.
  
  
  
  
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  Again taken out of context:
  
  So now the street-cleaner geno from TN is singing a different tune: instead of "KKK" threats, US is "funding" $5 billion to Pakistan. Street-sweepers are incapable of understanding economic progress is not dependent on foreign aid. Pakistan is one big madrassa with Western ars-elicker Musharaff standing in the middle. Understand, Musharaff enjoys NO popular support. This maggot is lucky to be alive after all the assassination attempts by JIHADIS. Anyway, when India nukes Pakistan with all the JAI SHRI RAM missles, Musharaf, jihadi, and madrassa will all be crushed to STONE like PEDOPHILE MUHAMMED'S toilet in MECCA, the KABA.
  
  http://forumhub.com/expr/13749.03.30.32.html
  
  As for finish off Pakistan, this is a reference to an imepending war, not Pakistan itself.
  
  The point is, Pakistan is extremely unstable... if one of the Jihadis assumed power, there would be an immediate nuclear war. Musharaff enjoys no popular support, as I have explained elsewhere.
  
  
• From: Star (@ adsl-68-77-31-52.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) on: Sat May 8 15:29:39 EDT 2004
  
  "Musharaf, jihadi, and madrassa will all be crushed to STONE..."
  
  Exactly... the locations and ppl involved in fanaticism will be taken care off. There is no peaceful way to stop a jihadi - a jihadi is a willing suicide bomber. As for Musharaff, he is corrupt beyond imagination and is the centerpiece of Pakistani instability. As for the madrassas, these contain fanatic mullahs who are in many instances suicide jihadis. Notice the peaceful Pakistani ppl will be left alone.
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net) on: Sat May 8 19:32:07 EDT 2004
  
  Thse vedic buffoons are, as always, busy covering their sinister tracks.
  
  The readers have access to all these historical events and relevant facts; let them decide for themselves.
  
  1111 years!! A much too greater length of time to make such a change of heart!
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net) on: Sun May 9 05:04:05 EDT 2004
  
  >>As for India, India was not even controlled by the Britain initially, but a trading company!
  >>A convenient half-quote by the atheist clown, taken way out of context.
  
  Everyone knows that it is you and all vedic buffoons like you, who want to cover-up relevant history and facts.
  
  The question of Swami Vivekananda saying what he said, about the series of foreign invasions and resulting destitution of India, in his lectures given at the Parliament of Religions would have never arisen if it was not relevant.
  
  Along with his conflicting religious opinions, he had no choice but to include some of the “real facts” about the Indian history and exactly that what he did by including:
  
  “This separation between the Buddhists and the Brahmins is the cause of the downfall of India. That is why India is populated by three hundred millions of beggars, and that is why India has been the slave of conquerors for the last thousand years.”
  
  >>As for finish off Pakistan, this is a reference to an impending war, not Pakistan itself.
  >>Exactly... the locations and ppl involved in fanaticism will be taken care off.
  
  Theses, contradictory statements by the vedic charlatans clearly shows how these vedic buffoons, as always, are busy masking their sinister tracks.
  
  1111 years! A much too greater length of time to make such a swing and change of heart!
  
  Anyway, readers have access to all these historical events and relevant facts. Let sensible readers decide for themselves how a series of all these historical events over 1111years – one thousand, one hundred and eleven years - really contributed in inviting foreign invasions, slavery and scandalous, destitute condition of India.
  
  

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