Topic started by Krishna T. Vanniar (@ 202.184.134.8) on Thu Oct 3 03:45:32 .
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With due respect to Gandhi, Yes Happy Birthday. In the article it was mentioned that a Hindu Fanatic killed Gandhi. True, but shall we ask why the "hindu fanatic "killed Gandhi. This was the time of massive uprooting of hindus and sikhs from present day pakistan and muslims from india moving to and fro. in the orgy of killing almost 3/4 million people were masacred. and arriving in delhi, the uprroteed fanatic who has lost his entire family like many sees Gandhi urging tolerance towards muslims. Is this possible anywhere in the world?No i am urging killing. I am only asking realistic questions. If we were in the same position like the hindu fanatic, how would be our feelings

gandhi was right in practicing ahimsa but he pushed it to far and was almost a dictator in urging that every hindu should follow his path. Yes Gandhi was a dictator albeit in a non- violent way. If you force somebody to accept your views unilaterally, it is dictatorship. Ahimsa is a great philosophy but it should belong to the religious sphere. to mix ahimsa with politics is dangerous. and like every politician who try to play GOD, Gandhi faced his death. But that doesn't take away his achievement at all ie FREEDOM from colonialism.

we hindus should NOT hate the muslim way as wrong. it is their way of life. Gandhi tried the impossible ie to convert Muslims to ahimsa which was opposed violently. what Gandhi sought was to convert muslims to his new religion "Ahimsa". and herein lies the muslim suspicion and desire for a Pakistan in 1940. actually Jinnah the founder of Pakistan the proponents of pakistan in UK in early 1930s as " dreamers who should have their heads examined". Though a muslim . Jinnah didnt practice his religion like the mullahs. Infact he drank whisky. During his last days of illness, he was sustained by will power and whisky. here he tretaed whisky as a form of medicine. so lets not a quick finger at Jinnah for drinking whisky. that would be short sighted. it was only in 1935 , he was convinced that Muslims wont have a place in Free India when Gandhi, perhaps carried away of euphoria, floated the idea of Ram Rajya. Jinnah was convinced. and thus began the road to Pakistan and the continuation of problems between India and Pakistan until today. Many of Gandhi ideas were borrrowed from Henry Thoreau, the great american writer esp the theory of non cooperation which was implemented in a devastating fashion by Gandhi.This was the beginning of of an Independent India.

would india have got freedom without gandhi? OFCOURSE. SOMEONE LIKE SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE , or other leaders would have got it. Gandhi ensured his place his place in history by performing what his conscience told. Despite, any critism, gandhi deserves his place in history. he was one of the seminal figures in 20th century history and the father of a free india.

Tragically, Gandhi committed a grave error and what many other leaders did and still do ( eg Osama bin laden , today) and what the ancient Greeks knew ie the Gods exact a revenge for any mortal human being who plays GOD. That role is reserved for them. ant that price is death or disgrace. so, on this day, let us Indians and Hindus think and ask which path we should take in politics. I would take the path of reality. as for others exercise your GOD GIVEN "FREEDOM OF CHOICE' After deep thought always.

Thank you. god bless you.

Krishna T. Vanniar, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

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• From: genie (@ wwwcache-a.lmu.ac.uk) on: Mon Mar 10 09:57:48
  
  was it not better for gandhi to teach the people not to be VIOLENT towards invading Muslims and be tolerant towards them?
  
  think what a genius this guy was that despite these invading Muslims doing so much wrong to our country, had the HEART and BRAINS to turn the other cheek?
  
  and for the suggestion that he was trying play god and he deserved his death shows the lack of intelligence within themselves.
  
  whether you play god or not death catches up with everyone. and at a time like Gandhis someone had to act like the way he did otherwise many more would have died and even more would be starving as oppressors would have continued to loot our wealth and salt to deprive us of the very right to live and exist.
  
  stop slagging true heroes of the world because you feel so bad about your own life, be positive.
  
  he made the country so ungovernable that the british had to leave, is it so hard for stupid oppressive regimes to understand that when someone goes to that length to make you leave you should get the message unless you truely are SO stupid and unintelligent that you deserve to be labelled as the words that define those actions.
  
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ webcachem03b.cache.pol.co.uk) on: Mon Mar 10 15:23:07
  
  Even when Gandhiji was not there, Mugals invaded India and ruled India for centuries until British came. We Indians were/are sufficiently dumb and weak to let others rule us for centuries. One foreigner could easily rule 2000 Indians for centuries without any challenge. It was only Gandhiji who taught us how to get rid of British by the means of non-cooperation that he knew was going to work.
  
  
• From: dhirendra singh gaur (@ 203.145.144.218) on: Tue Mar 11 07:49:10
  
  if i had been in place of nathuram godse,i surely would have donethe same what he did. iappreciate of what he did. the only regrets that now i have is that i wasn't there at that time.
  
  
• From: jai (@ adsl-68-23-38-110.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) on: Sat May 3 06:41:56 EDT 2003
  
  if gandhi was god as most of our countryman feel,then why did he go for a fast till death to oust subhash chandra bose from the presidentship of the congress in 1939?as far as my reading of the subject goes he too was hungry for power and could stoop to such low levels to get his rivals ousted
  
  
• From: Parampreet Singh Sandhu (@ adsl-64-166-3-50.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) on: Sat Jun 21 17:17:17 EDT 2003
  
  I must say there is a great part of me that feels like Dhirendra. I too have this grudge against probably one of the most famous traitors in Indian History, Gandhi and his circus known as the Congress. The simple fact that Gandhi was the head of the Indian National Congress, proves to me that he couldn't have had the heart to do anything good for the Indian people. After all who controlled the Congress, the British. So through an obvious connection, who controlled Gandhi, The British. Gandhi's very idiotic and stalling methods of non-violence helped slow down many uprisings and movements that could saved the people of India from the Imperialist. Gandhi even made pathetic excuses to stop some of the progressive movements he began. For example, the Non-Cooperation Movement. How can anyone stay quite after your own brothers and sisters have been killed. So why did Gandhi call the people uncivilized and unfit to have a country of their own. Its an instinctive drive that man has when they see one of their own people or family members being slaughtered. Yet, this feeble creature who many see as God, did his godlike deed and blamed those who were merely sick of life and the way it was treating them, and responded the way they did.
  
  Many state that the civil rights movement in the U.S. was successful due to the non-violent methods. Well thats nothing new considering how almost all the real freedom fighters such as Chandrashekar Azad or Bhagat Singh stated that there are different magnitudes on which non-violence should be used. If there is an oppressor on you as great as the Imperial Giant, then you must go into self-defense and rid this Mighty Force from your home.
  
  
• From: *Indian* (@ 213.42.2.7) on: Sun Jun 22 05:52:56 EDT 2003
  
  Dear Krishna,
  I can c the point in your argument.. but still, is it not wrong to say that of that man... many a time i too have thought in this way. Its true, hadnt it been 4 Judas, Jesus would have still been a carpenter's son...preaching on some foothill. But is it entirely because of Godse that Gandhiji is who he is now??
  For those of you here, who cant c the sufferings of Gandhiji...those who dont value the freedom he brought to us... who take it all for granted...
  HOPE YOU DIE A SLOW n PAINFUL DEATH... not exactly what the Mahatma would sy.. but then times have changed..
  regards
  
  
• From: Gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Sun Jun 22 07:50:02 EDT 2003
  
  well, i would not call gandhi a traitor. i would not agree that he alone shows the way to salvation. but i want to know one thing:
  
  if you put a gun to my head and ask me to do soemthing is it not violence?
  
  then if you put the same gun to your head (which is what gandhi's hunger strike amounted to) and ask me to do something is it non-violence?
  
  
• From: *Indian* (@ 213.42.2.7) on: Sun Jun 22 12:48:30 EDT 2003
  
  //but i want to know one thing:
  if you put a gun to my head and ask me to do soemthing is it not violence?
  then if you put the same gun to your head (which is what gandhi's hunger strike amounted to) and ask me to do something is it non-violence?//
  Gopal,,
  if in the first place you would have put the gun to your head and pulled the trigger, you wouldnt have been as confused as you are now...
  HA HA.. hey no offence... just joking
  regards
  
  
• From: Gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Sun Jun 22 13:53:51 EDT 2003
  
  but it was gandhi who did it, and if he had pull the trigger himself then where is the place of godse in history?
  
  
• From: blake (@ 166-82-117-204.quickclick.ctc.net) on: Tue Nov 4 20:51:12
  
  gandhi was a great man, never try to say his teachings are like that. he is the best peacemaker in history, this irritates me so much that u can say such things. keep your thoughts to yourself
  
  
• From: karthi (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Tue Nov 4 22:56:15 EST 2003
  
  If Subash Chandra Bose achived the INDEPENDENCE, India would be a better place and a powerful nation than China now!
  
  Gandhi and his congress worked against Bose with British!
  
  Even Gandhi &co promised not to celebrate Subash or proclaiming Subash as an Indian Hero.
  
  Till today, the Indians keep that promise to the Brtish and refuse to recognise Subash as an Indian HERO!
  
  
  
• From: teynampettai theruporukki (@ 66.98.130.76) on: Thu Nov 13 21:31:31 EST 2003
  
  HINDUISM & CASTE
  Caste (varna):
  Brahmin = Priest Caste;
  Ksatriya = Rajanya/Ruler/Warrior Caste;
  Vaisya = Commoner Caste;
  Sudra = Servant/Slave Caste; and
  Avarna = Outcaste/Untouchable/Dalit/Candala/Dog-eater.
  
  There are also many subsets in each caste. Dvija = twice-born (twice-born = upper 3 castes or sometimes just Brahmin caste particularly). Some Hindus have a delusion that caste is not promoted by any of their holy books. Is that really so? Let's find out:
  
  "By his very birth a Brahmin is a deity even for the gods and the only authority for people in this world, for the Veda is the foundation in this matter." -- Manusmrti 11:85.
  
  "People here whose behaviour is pleasant can expect to enter a pleasant womb, like that of a woman of the Brahmin, the Ksatriya, or the Vaisya caste. But people of foul behaviour can expect to enter the foul womb, like that of a dog, a pig, or an outcaste woman." -- Chandogya Upanisad 5:10:7.
  
  "If a man of one birth (Sudra) hurls cruel words at one of the twice-born, his tongue should be cut out, for he was born from the rear-end. If he mentions their name or caste maliciously, a red-hot iron nail ten-fingerslong should be thrust into his mouth. If he is so proud as to instruct priests about their duty, the king should have hot oil poured into his mouth and ears." -- Manusmrti 8:270-272.
  
  "If a man of inferior caste tries to sit down on the same seat as a man of superior caste, he should be branded on the hip and banished, or have his buttocks cut off." -- Manusmrti 8:281.
  
  "If in the process of negotiating betrothal there are first ten suitors of the non-Brahmana varna for a woman (the marriageable girl), all of them lose their claims of marriage and, only the Brahmin, the learned one, if he grasps her hand would be her husband and only he. Not even the man of Ksatriya varna and not even the man of Vaisya varna but only the Brahmin is the husband of the bride in such cases of claimants of betrothal, and the sun, as it appears, revealing this fact to the people of five classes (4 varnas and the fifth avarna) rises up." -- Atharva Veda 5:17:8-9.
  
  "If someone born in a Ksatriya, Vaisya, or Sudra womb should be unable to pay his fine, he may absolve himself of the debt by labour; a Brahmin should pay little by little. The king should have women, children, madmen, and the old, the poor, and the ill chastised with a whip, a bamboo cane, a rope, and so forth." -- Manusmrti 9:229-230.
  
  "The Sudra's duty and supreme good is nothing but obedience to famous Brahmin householders who know the Veda. If he is unpolluted, obedient to his superiors, gentle in his speech, without a sense of 'I', and always dependent on the Brahmins and the other (twice-born castes), he attains a superior birth (in the next life)." -- Manusmrti 9:334-335.
  
  "…thereby the Ksatriya, whenever he likes, says, 'Hello Vaisya, just bring to me what you have stored away!' Thus he both subdues him and obtains possession of anything he wishes by dint of this very energy." -- Satapatha Brahmana 1:3:2:15.
  
  "One-fourth of (the punishment for) Brahmin-killing is traditionally regarded as (the punishment) for the killing of a Ksatriya, one-eighth for (killing) a Vaisya, and it should be one-sixteenth for (killing) a Sudra who knows his place." -- Manusmrti 11:127.
  
  "A Brahmin is a great deity whether or not he is learned, just as fire is a great deity whether or not it is brought to the altar. The purifying fire with its brilliant energy is not defiled even in cremation grounds, and when oblations of butter are placed in it at sacrifices it grows even greater. Thus Brahmins should be revered in every way, even if they engage in all kinds of undesirable actions, for this is the supreme deity. If the Ksatriyas become overbearing towards the Brahmins in any way, the Brahmins themselves should subdue them, for the Ksatriyas were born from the Brahmins." -- Manusmrti 9:317-320.
  
  "A Ksatriya in adversity may also make a living by all of these (means); but he should never be so proud as to assume the livelihood of his betters. If a man of the lowest caste should, through greed, make his living by the innate activities of his superiors, the king should confiscate his wealth and banish him immediately. One's own duty, (even) without any good qualities, is better than someone else's duty well done; for a man who makes his livingby someone else's duty immediately falls from (his own) caste." -- Manusmrti 10:95-97.
  
  "With whatever limb an inferior insults or hurts his superior in caste, of that limb the king shall cause him to be deprived. If he places himself on the same seat with his superior, he shall be banished with a mark on hisbuttocks. If he spits on him, he shall lose both lips; If he breaks wind against him, his hindparts; If he uses abusive language, his tongue. If a (lowborn) man through pride gives instruction (to a member of the highest caste) concerning his duty, let the king order hot oil to be dropped into his mouth. If a (low-born man) mentions the name or caste of a superior revilingly, an iron pin, ten inches long, shall be thrust into his mouth (red hot)." -- Visnusmrti 5:19-25.
  
  "His (Purusa's) mouth became the Brahmin; his arms were made into the Ksatriya, his thighs the Vaisya, and from his feet the Sudra was born." -- Rig Veda 10:90:12.
  
  In comparison, Sudras are as low as feet & Outcastes (avarna) are even below that status of course.
  
  
  
  LORD SIVA ENJOYS SLUTS FOR 12 YRS. & IS PUNISHED BY SAGES & CASTRATED
  
  "When the women of the Pine Forest saw Siva begging in their hermitage they were overcome by desire. Only Arundhati, the faithful wife of Vasistha, resisted. All the others, old women and young girls, threw off their clothing and urged Siva to make love to them.... Then the sages beat and reviled Siva, and Siva went to Vasistha's house and said to Arundhati, the daughter of Daksa, 'I have been beaten by the sages in this wood and have come to you as a guest. Give me alms, fair lady.' Then he showed Arundhati all his wounded limbs, covered with blood, and all his body, enticing her, but she bathed his handsome body as if it were the body of her own son, and she said to him, 'My son, you are welcome here.' Then he was pleased with her, and he said, 'We ascetics and naked beggars are well pleased with you. May you prosper in your marriage, and may your old husband become young and able again, with a divine body, never ageing, like an immortal.' Then Siva left the house and wandered through the woods with the frenzied women, laughing and making love to them day and night for twelve years.... Then with a curse the sages caused Siva's linga to fall. The fiery linga stretched for many miles and landed in the body of Sati, but when it had plunged into the ground its divine energy was withdrawn from the universe, and the world became dark. Then Arundhati said to Vasistha, 'I fear that the naked ascetic who came here was Siva, for he did not lose his control or become angry although he was struck by hundreds of weapons. And the mountain woman with him was my sister, Parvati. May we two who participate in the householder stage heal the body of Siva and cause this darkness to vanish.' Vasistha said, 'So be it', and because of that Siva's body was restored.... " -- Siva Purana, Dharmasamhita 10:96-8, 163-8, 193-202, 213-14; cf. Kurma Purana (1818), 2:37:33-9. (Bib. Ind. 2:38, pp.727-8.)
  
  
  
  HOPELESS HINDU GODS ARE PUNISHED FOR RAPE
  
  Lord Brahma, Visnu & Siva rape Anasuya and are cursed. This is also an origin of the holy Shiv linga as Siva is cursed to be worshipped as the linga (phallus):
  
  "One day the sage Atri was performing tapas with his wife Anasuya. Brahma, Visnu, and Siva came and offered him a boon, but Atri remained silent, meditating. Then the three gods went to Anasuya. Siva had his linga in his hand, Visnu was full of erotic feeling, and Brahma was beside himself with desire, saying to Anasuya, 'Make love with me or I will die.' When she heard this coarse speech, Anasuya made no reply, for, although she feared the anger of the gods, she was true to her husband. But they were overcome with delusion, and they raped her by force. Then she became angry and she cursed Siva to be worshipped as a linga, Brahma to be worshipped in the form of a head, and Visnu to be worshipped as feet, in order to ridicule them all, and she cursed them all to be reborn as her sons. Because of this, Siva was reborn as Durvasas."
  
  -- Bhavisya Purana 3:4:17:67-78.
  
  
  
  
  LORD BRAHMA LUSTS SIVA'S WIFE & THOUSANDS OF YOGIS ARE BORN
  
  Brahma instantly becomes the dad of thousands of ascetics; the following takes place at Lord Siva's wedding: "Brahma saw the beautiful face (or feet) of Parvati at the wedding, and he became excited and shed his seed upon the ground. In fear of Siva, he began to make the seed barren, but Siva said, 'Brahma, you should not kill Brahmins, and these are great sages.' Then 88,000 tapasvins were born from the seed, and they ran around Brahma calling him 'Daddy, daddy!' " -- Brahma Purana 72:18; Vamana Purana 27:56-9; cf. Siva Purana, Jnanasamhita 18:62-8; Siva Purana 2:3:49:3-10; Skanda Purana 1:1:26:15-22.
  
  
  LORD BRAHMA'S INCEST
  
  "Brahma desired Sarasvati and went to her, asking her to stay with him. She, being his daughter, was furious at this and said, 'Your mouth speaks inauspiciously and so you will always speak in a contrary way.' From that day, Brahma's fifth head always spoke evilly and coarsely. Therefore one day when Siva was wandering about with Parvati and came to see Brahma, Brahma's four heads praised Siva but the fifth made an evil sound. Siva, displeased with the fifth head, cut it off. The skull remained stuck fast to Siva's hand, and though he was capable of burning it up, Siva wandered the earth with it for the sake of all people, until he came to Benares." -- Siva Purana, Jnanasamhita 49:65-80.
  
  
  Another version:
  
  "Brahma desired his daughter and took the form of a stag to pursue her as a doe. The Brahmins called him to shame, and Rudra shot him with an arrow. The deer's head came away from Brahma's body and became a constellation in the sky. But then Gayatri and Sarasvati [the wives of Brahma] had no husband. They performed tapas for Siva, and he agreed to revive their husband, giving Brahma the four heads of Nandin and others of his hosts. Brahma arose and praised Siva." -- Skanda Purana 3:40:1-59.
  
  More of Lord Brahma's (Prajapati's) incest:
  
  "Prajapati desired his daughter and made love to her. This was a sin in the eyes of the gods, who said to the god who rules over beasts [Pasupati, Rudra], 'He commits a sin, acting in this way towards his own daughter, our sister. Pierce him.' Rudra took aim and pierced him. Half his seed fell to the ground. The gods cured Prajapati and cut out Rudra's dart, for Prajapati is the sacrifice. To utilize [the seed], the gods said, 'Take care that this may not be lost, but that it may be less than the oblation.' They gave it to Bhaga to eat, but it burnt his eyes and he became blind. Then they gave it to Pusan to eat, but it knocked out his teeth. At last they gave it to Savitr [the sun] and it did not injure him, for he appeased it." -- Satapatha Brahmana 1:7:4:1-7.
  
  There are many instances of incest in sacred Hindu scriptures; these are not the only ones.
  
  
  
  
  HINDUS CAUTIONED NOT TO FOLLOW INCESTUOUS EXAMPLES OF THEIR GODS
  
  "It is the very nature of women to corrupt men here on earth; for that reason, circumspect men do not get careless and wanton among wanton women. It is not just an ignorant man, but even a learned man of the world, too, that a wanton woman can lead astray when he is in the control of lust and anger. No one should sit in a deserted place with his mother, sister, or daughter; for the strong cluster of the sensory powers drags away even a learned man." -- Manusmrti 2:213-215.
  
  Watch out Hindus....don't ever sit next to your mom, sister or daughter.....you never know what could happen! You don't want to end up doing what Lord Brahma did to his daughter/wife.
  
  
  
  
  KRTTIKAS & PARVATI SWIM IN LORD SIVA'S SEMEN
  
  Parvati drinks Lord Siva's semen & becomes pregnant with a 6-headed boy:"Siva made love to Parvati for a thousand years, without pause, and when the gods came to see Siva, the gate-keeper dismissed them and sent them back. After another thousand years, the gods were frightened and sent Agni to find out what Siva was doing. Agni took the form of a parrot and entered and saw Siva lying on the bed with Parvati. When Siva saw the parrot he was a bit angry, and he said, 'I have shed half of my seed in Devi, but now that she has become embarrassed she is no longer passionate. You, Agni, must drink the other half of the seed since it was you who caused the obstacle.' Agni drank the seed of Siva and distributed it among the bodies of all the gods, but the seed split open their stomachs, and the hot golden liquid spread out in Siva's hermitage and formed an enormous lake full of golden lotuses. Hearing of this, Parvati was full of curiosity and went there to play in the water. Then, wishing to drink the sweet water, she said to the six Krttikas, who were bathing there, 'I want the water that you have taken up in that lotus petal and are bringing home.' They said to her, 'If we give you this water, a child will be born from it. Let him be our son, too, and bear our name.' Parvati said, 'How can one born from my body be your son?' They said, 'Let us create his upper limbs.' She agreed, and she took the golden water and drank it, and it broke out through the right side of her womb as a six-headed boy, Skanda." -- Matsya Purana 158:27-50; Padma Purana 5:41:118-42; cf. Haracaritacintamani 9:196-221.
  
  Another version:
  
  "When Siva had placed his seed in the mouth of Agni, Agni was ashamed and heated by the seed, and he threw it into the waters of the Ganga. She, burnt by the seed, placed it on her bank, and the six wives of the Seven Sages came there to bathe. Pained by the cold, they thought the blazing seed was fire, and they warmed themselves, but the seed entered them through their buttocks. Then, because of its great tapas, the seed broke out of their stomachs and the six parts joined as one six-headed child. They were all very worried and afraid of the sages, because they had gone before the fire, and they threw the child on the top of the white mountain among the reeds." -- Skanda Purana 5:1:34:60-6.
  
  
  
  HINDU GODS RAPE GAUTAMA'S WIFE
  
  "Formerly the gods lusted for Gautama's wife and raped her, for their wits were destroyed by lust. Then they were terrified and went to the sage Durvasas [an incarnation of Siva], who said, 'I will remove all your defilements with the Satarudriya Mantra [an ancient Saiva prayer].' Then he gave them ashes which they smeared upon their bodies, and their sins were shaken off." -- Padma Purana 4:101:174-9.
  
  
  
  
  LORD SIVA GETS THE OTHER HINDU GODS PREGNANT
  
  "The gods came to Siva and said, 'We have all become pregnant and are lactating. Your seed is burning our bodies and we are a laughing-stock, for we are men who have become pregnant. Help us.' Siva smiled and said, 'But this is what you wanted. You did not want a son born in the belly of Devi, and so you yourselves have become the place of the embryo." -- Saura Purana 62:5-12.
  
  
  
  
  HUNGRY HINDU GODDESSES EAT SIVA'S BALLS & SAY 'DELICIOUS'
  
  Foolish Hindu Goddesses ravenously eat Lord Siva's testicles:
  
  "The demon Ruru with his army attacked the gods, who sought refuge with Devi. She laughed, and an army of goddesses emerged from her mouth. They killed Ruru and his army, but then they were hungry and asked for food. Devi summoned Rudra Pasupati and said, 'You have the form of a goat and you smell like a goat. These ladies will eat your flesh or else they will eat everything, even me.' Siva said, 'When I pierced the fleeing sacrifice of Daksa, which had taken the form of a goat, I obtained the smell of a goat. But let the goddesses eat that which pregnant women have defiled with their touch, and newborn children, and women who cry all the time.' Devi refused this disgusting food, and finally Siva said, 'I will give you something never tasted by anyone else: the two balls resembling fruits below my navel. Eat the testicles that hang there and be satisfied.' Delighted by this gift, the goddesses praised Siva." -- Padma Purana 5:26:91-125; cf. Linga Purana 1:106:1-27; Matsya Purana 252:5-19, 179:7-186; Kurma Purana 1:16:141-222.
  
  
  
  FOOLISH HINDU GODDESS LAXMI DWELLS IN COW DUNG & URINE
  
  Laxmi is also known as Sri. She must be smelling like total sh1t by living in cow dung & urine for so long:
  
  "The goddess of fortune (Sri) left the demons and went to the gods. After many years she went to the cows and asked to dwell within them; at first they refused, since she was so inconstant and fickle; at last she said, 'No part of your bodies is disgusting; let me live somewhere in you.' The cows agreed to let her dwell in their urine and dung." -- Mahabharata 13:81:1-86.
  
  
  
  LORD INDRA THE RAVENOUS DOG-EATER
  
  Lord Indra, although the King of Vedic Hindu Gods, is a totally hopeless character:
  
  "[Indra:] 'Because I was in desperate straits, I cooked the entrails of a dog, and I found no one among the gods to help me. I saw my woman dishonoured. Then the eagle brought the honey (soma) to me.' " -- Rig Veda 4:18:13.
  
  
  
  
  LORD INDRA RAPES GAUTAMA'S WIFE
  
  ".... Indra raped Ahalya and was cursed by her husband, the sage Gautama, to lose all his prosperity ...." -- Brahmavaivarta Purana 4:47:11-45.
  
  
  
  
  
  INDRANI THE SLUT
  
  Lord Indra's wife the Goddess Indrani is a total bimbo:
  
  "[Indrani:] 'No woman has finer loins than I, or is better at making love. No woman thrusts against a man better than I, or raises and spreads her thighs more.' " -- Rig Veda 10:86:6.
  
  
  
  
  LORD INDRA SEDUCES GAUTAMA'S WIFE & HAS BALLS FROM A RAM
  "Indra took the form of Gautama to seduce Ahalya, saying to her, 'I am in the power of Kama. Give me a kiss and so forth.' But as she was worshipping the gods she told him that he had chosen an inappropriate time. He said, 'Enough of this talk of what is done and what is not done. You should obey your husband, especially in the matters of sex. Give me an embrace and so forth.' Then he embraced her and had his pleasure of her, but Gautama knew what had happened by his powers of meditation, and he hurried home and cursed Indra, saying, 'Since you have acted in this way for the sake of the yoni (female-sexual-organ/vagina), let there be a thousand of them on your body, and let your linga fall.' Then Gautama went to do tapas, and Indra, full of shame, stood in the water for a long time, praising Devi in her aspect of Indraksi ['Eyes of Indra']. When she offered him a boon he asked to have his deformity cured, but she said, 'I cannot destroy the evil born of a sage's curse, but I can do something so that people will not notice it: you will have a thousand eyes in the middle of the yonis (vaginas), and you will have the testicles of a ram." -- Padma Purana 1:56:15-53.
  More on Lord Indra:
  
  "Indra lost his virility. The gods used the ram, the male goat, and the bull as recompense. And therefore the bull is sacred to Indra." -- Satapatha Brahmana 12:7:1:10-12; 5:2:3:8.
  
  
  
  
  LORD SIVA & LORD VISHNU HAVE SEX WITH EACH OTHER
  
  Mohini ['The Enchantress'] is a famous apsaras (celestial nymph) of Lord Indra's harem. Although usually the apsarases are real and usually created by the gods for the purpose of distracting enemies or ascetics, Lord Vishnu himself sometimes takes a form to look like the nymph Mohini to delude the demons during battle:
  
  "Visnu took the form of the apsaras Mohini in order to beguile the demons and to steal the Soma back from them. Having accomplished this, Visnu was approached by Siva and Parvati, and Siva asked him to display the seductive form which he had assumed for the demons. Visnu became Mohini, and Siva immediately ran after her, abandoning Parvati who stood with her head lowered in shame. Siva embraced Mohini by force, and his seed fell upon the ground. Mohini disappeared and Siva returned to Parvati."
  
  -- Brahmanda Purana 4:10:41-77.
  
  
  
  HOW LORD HANUMAN (THE MONKEY-GOD) WAS BORN
  
  "One day Siva saw the Mohini form of Visnu. He was struck by Kama's arrows and let fall his seed. The Seven Sages put the seed in a pot and they infused it into the daughter of Gautama through her ear. In time, Hanuman, the monkey-god, was born from it."
  
  -- Siva Purana 3:20:3-7.
  
  
  
  HINDUISM'S AMAZING METHOD OF TURNING 'USED' WOMEN BACK INTO VIRGINS
  A sexual ritual is prescribed to purify a woman who has committed sexual sins:
  
  "A woman who has been unchaste should worship Siva in his calm aspect, Siva who is Kama. Then she should summon a Brahmin and give herself to him, thinking, 'This is Kama who has come for the sake of sexual pleasure.' Andwhatever the Brahmin wishes, the sensuous woman should do. For thirteen months she should honour in this way any Brahmin who comes to the house for the sake of sexual pleasures, and there is no immorality in this for noble ladies or prostitutes." -- Matsya Purana 70:40-60; cf. Mahabharata III:2:23.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: karthi (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Thu Nov 13 23:05:08 EST 2003
  
  Can you tell the stories of Mohamed who fukked a six year old girl or raping his son's wife?
  
  Can you tell some more stories of Virgin Mary who had a son or the SEX episodes of POPES?
  
  

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