Margazhi and Tirupavai
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The month of margazhi (known as Dhanur in Sanskrit) is the Tamil month of religious austerities and devotional activities. It corresponds to Dec – Jan culminating in the Bhogi festival just a day before pongal /makara shankranti which will be celebrated in 15th January.
This month long celebration is in honour of Andal. The vaisnava saints - Alvars 12 in numbers lived between 5th and 7th century and the only woman among them Andal is considered as the incarnation of Bhudevi.
Andal’s foster father, Periya Alvar (Vishnu chitta) found Andal under the Tulasi bed in his garden in SriVilliputtur. He named her initially Goda and the environment in which she grew up brought out her mystic temperament and she identified with the gopis of Vrndavan, when she listened to the glory of the Lord in His incarnation as Krishna from Periya alvar.
Even as a child of barely 5 years her spiritual maturity reached great heights. Vishnu chitta (Periya Alvar) once caught Andal red handed in the act of admiring her reflection wearing the garlands meant for the Lord and was disturbed by what he considered a sacrilege. He did not offer any garlands to the Lord that day. That night Vishnu chitta (Periya Alvar) was commanded by the Lord in his dream to offer garlands first worn by Goda and overwhelmed by this incident he addressed her as Andal – “One who has conquered the Lord”
While other Alvars had also given expression to their agony over separation from the Lord in the language unique to bridal mysticism, Andals’ outpours scores above them because the emotion comes naturally to her. She threatens that she would not live if betrothed to a mortal when her foster father Periya alvar expressed his intention to get her married
The Tirupavai verses are the expression of Andal’s desire to attain union with the Lord when she performed Pavai nombu, a vow on the lines of Kartyayini vrata performed by the gopis.
Ramanuja acarya admired the work of Andal. Though he was known by many names such as Emperumanar, Yatiraja and Bhasyakarar, he was popularly called “Tirupavai Jiyar”. The version how he earned this appellation is well known but the background is that Tirupavai’s 30 verses spell out the essence of the vedas and reflects how Andal treated Vishnu chitta (Peria Alvar) not only as her foster father but also as her acarya (preceptor)
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Did you know - Quran (4:34) advises a man to beat his wife if she does'nt obey him?
Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
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I left Islam in March 2003 when I was 24, about a year after leaving university. Since I dropped out of university I had more time to study Islam. To my horror I came across certain things in the Quran and Sunna which shook my belief in the Quran as a divine book and Muhammad as a prophet. Firstly, Allah’s saying in the Quran that husbands should beat their wives if they are disobedient. Islamic scholars say that beating is a last resort and that the beating should be done in a way that does not cause injury. That doesn’t make it any better though, a beating is a beating! Secondly, Muhammad having sex with Aisha when she was just nine years old. Apologetics say that she had started menstruating so it was ok. But the authentic hadiths show that she was still a child psychologically because she was still playing with dolls. In my view, Muhammad was a pedophile. These were the two main reasons why I left Islam.
Since my apostasy I have shaved off my long beard which I have had since I was 16. It deeply shocked my family and friends to see me clean shaven and no longer praying and reading the Quran regularly so I can imagine their reaction if I tell them I am no longer a Muslim! That is why I am going to keep my apostasy secret from them. At the moment they think I am still a Muslim but just not practicing. Since my apostasy I have re-examined my beliefs about everything. I still hold on to many of the good things I have learnt such as honesty, being just, kind, polite, respect for elders, giving to charity etc. However, I have discarded all the evil and intolerant teachings of Islam and I am re-reading the Quran and Sunna with a very critical eye. Now I am just concentrating on being a good human being and making a positive contribution towards society.
I was very happy to find this web site and others like it. It’s very comforting to know that you are not alone.
Yours faithfully,
Ben Rukhsana (pseudonym)
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Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
[Read more]
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I have been a practicing Muslim since I was a little boy. My parents are what British newspapers would call practicing moderate Muslims, as were their parents. I grew up aspiring to devote my life to Islam by becoming a religious scholar. This ambition seriously affected my social and work life, which is something I deeply regret now. My greatest regret is how Islam affected my academic life. Up till age 16 I was a good student and earned good grades. At 16 I was influenced by Muslims following the Salafi interpretation of Islam. It’s at this time when my interest in studying dropped. I spent most of my time reading Islamic books and going to Islamic lectures, even at the expense of missing my college classes. I completed my course with poor grades but somehow got into university to study law. After one year of law school I was persuaded by friends to drop out and transfer to another university to pursue Arabic language studies with the hope of eventually studying in Madina University in Saudi Arabia. I studied Arabic at university for 3 years including a year studying in an Arab country. Throughout this time my circle of friends changed to one who practiced a very orthodox Salafi interpretation of Islam. It did not allow co-education. Since this was unavoidable at university, I left. Even though I only had one year of studying before graduation!
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Book! Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out
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Statement by Ibn Warraq on the WTC Attacks
Islam: Sex & Violence - Online Book by Anwar Sheikh (former Muslim) Book Review
ARTICLES
Mohammad The Pedophile - Parvin Darabi
Breaking the manacles of Islam
I left Islam in March 2003 when I was 24, about a year after leaving university. Since I dropped out of university I had more time to study Islam. To my horror I came across certain things in the Quran and Sunna which shook my belief in the Quran as a divine book and Muhammad as a prophet. Firstly, Allah’s saying in the Quran that husbands should beat their wives if they are disobedient. Islamic scholars say that beating is a last resort and that the beating should be done in a way that does not cause injury. That doesn’t make it any better though, a beating is a beating! Secondly, Muhammad having sex with Aisha when she was just nine years old. Apologetics say that she had started menstruating so it was ok. But the authentic hadiths show that she was still a child psychologically because she was still playing with dolls. In my view, Muhammad was a pedophile. These were the two main reasons why I left Islam.
Since my apostasy I have shaved off my long beard which I have had since I was 16. It deeply shocked my family and friends to see me clean shaven and no longer praying and reading the Quran regularly so I can imagine their reaction if I tell them I am no longer a Muslim! That is why I am going to keep my apostasy secret from them. At the moment they think I am still a Muslim but just not practicing. Since my apostasy I have re-examined my beliefs about everything. I still hold on to many of the good things I have learnt such as honesty, being just, kind, polite, respect for elders, giving to charity etc. However, I have discarded all the evil and intolerant teachings of Islam and I am re-reading the Quran and Sunna with a very critical eye. Now I am just concentrating on being a good human being and making a positive contribution towards society.
I was very happy to find this web site and others like it. It’s very comforting to know that you are not alone.
Yours faithfully,
Ben Rukhsana (pseudonym)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?" -Quran 47:15 [translation:Yusuf Ali]
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Did you know - Quran (4:34) advises a man to beat his wife if she does'nt obey him?
Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
[Read more]
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I have been a practicing Muslim since I was a little boy. My parents are what British newspapers would call practicing moderate Muslims, as were their parents. I grew up aspiring to devote my life to Islam by becoming a religious scholar. This ambition seriously affected my social and work life, which is something I deeply regret now. My greatest regret is how Islam affected my academic life. Up till age 16 I was a good student and earned good grades. At 16 I was influenced by Muslims following the Salafi interpretation of Islam. It’s at this time when my interest in studying dropped. I spent most of my time reading Islamic books and going to Islamic lectures, even at the expense of missing my college classes. I completed my course with poor grades but somehow got into university to study law. After one year of law school I was persuaded by friends to drop out and transfer to another university to pursue Arabic language studies with the hope of eventually studying in Madina University in Saudi Arabia. I studied Arabic at university for 3 years including a year studying in an Arab country. Throughout this time my circle of friends changed to one who practiced a very orthodox Salafi interpretation of Islam. It did not allow co-education. Since this was unavoidable at university, I left. Even though I only had one year of studying before graduation!
HOT LINKS
Book! Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out
Video of Stoning to Death
Yes, this is about Islam - Salman Rushdie
Statement by Ibn Warraq on the WTC Attacks
Islam: Sex & Violence - Online Book by Anwar Sheikh (former Muslim) Book Review
ARTICLES
Mohammad The Pedophile - Parvin Darabi
Breaking the manacles of Islam
I left Islam in March 2003 when I was 24, about a year after leaving university. Since I dropped out of university I had more time to study Islam. To my horror I came across certain things in the Quran and Sunna which shook my belief in the Quran as a divine book and Muhammad as a prophet. Firstly, Allah’s saying in the Quran that husbands should beat their wives if they are disobedient. Islamic scholars say that beating is a last resort and that the beating should be done in a way that does not cause injury. That doesn’t make it any better though, a beating is a beating! Secondly, Muhammad having sex with Aisha when she was just nine years old. Apologetics say that she had started menstruating so it was ok. But the authentic hadiths show that she was still a child psychologically because she was still playing with dolls. In my view, Muhammad was a pedophile. These were the two main reasons why I left Islam.
Since my apostasy I have shaved off my long beard which I have had since I was 16. It deeply shocked my family and friends to see me clean shaven and no longer praying and reading the Quran regularly so I can imagine their reaction if I tell them I am no longer a Muslim! That is why I am going to keep my apostasy secret from them. At the moment they think I am still a Muslim but just not practicing. Since my apostasy I have re-examined my beliefs about everything. I still hold on to many of the good things I have learnt such as honesty, being just, kind, polite, respect for elders, giving to charity etc. However, I have discarded all the evil and intolerant teachings of Islam and I am re-reading the Quran and Sunna with a very critical eye. Now I am just concentrating on being a good human being and making a positive contribution towards society.
I was very happy to find this web site and others like it. It’s very comforting to know that you are not alone.
Yours faithfully,
Ben Rukhsana (pseudonym)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Random Quran:
"(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?" -Quran 47:15 [translation:Yusuf Ali]
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- From: Pee-Boo (@ dial0-301.dialin.uic.edu)
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Did you know - Quran (4:34) advises a man to beat his wife if she does'nt obey him?
Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
[Read more]
Apostate
Ben Rukhsana -
| Contact me |
Testimony
I have been a practicing Muslim since I was a little boy. My parents are what British newspapers would call practicing moderate Muslims, as were their parents. I grew up aspiring to devote my life to Islam by becoming a religious scholar. This ambition seriously affected my social and work life, which is something I deeply regret now. My greatest regret is how Islam affected my academic life. Up till age 16 I was a good student and earned good grades. At 16 I was influenced by Muslims following the Salafi interpretation of Islam. It’s at this time when my interest in studying dropped. I spent most of my time reading Islamic books and going to Islamic lectures, even at the expense of missing my college classes. I completed my course with poor grades but somehow got into university to study law. After one year of law school I was persuaded by friends to drop out and transfer to another university to pursue Arabic language studies with the hope of eventually studying in Madina University in Saudi Arabia. I studied Arabic at university for 3 years including a year studying in an Arab country. Throughout this time my circle of friends changed to one who practiced a very orthodox Salafi interpretation of Islam. It did not allow co-education. Since this was unavoidable at university, I left. Even though I only had one year of studying before graduation!
HOT LINKS
Book! Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out
Video of Stoning to Death
Yes, this is about Islam - Salman Rushdie
Statement by Ibn Warraq on the WTC Attacks
Islam: Sex & Violence - Online Book by Anwar Sheikh (former Muslim) Book Review
ARTICLES
Mohammad The Pedophile - Parvin Darabi
Breaking the manacles of Islam
I left Islam in March 2003 when I was 24, about a year after leaving university. Since I dropped out of university I had more time to study Islam. To my horror I came across certain things in the Quran and Sunna which shook my belief in the Quran as a divine book and Muhammad as a prophet. Firstly, Allah’s saying in the Quran that husbands should beat their wives if they are disobedient. Islamic scholars say that beating is a last resort and that the beating should be done in a way that does not cause injury. That doesn’t make it any better though, a beating is a beating! Secondly, Muhammad having sex with Aisha when she was just nine years old. Apologetics say that she had started menstruating so it was ok. But the authentic hadiths show that she was still a child psychologically because she was still playing with dolls. In my view, Muhammad was a pedophile. These were the two main reasons why I left Islam.
Since my apostasy I have shaved off my long beard which I have had since I was 16. It deeply shocked my family and friends to see me clean shaven and no longer praying and reading the Quran regularly so I can imagine their reaction if I tell them I am no longer a Muslim! That is why I am going to keep my apostasy secret from them. At the moment they think I am still a Muslim but just not practicing. Since my apostasy I have re-examined my beliefs about everything. I still hold on to many of the good things I have learnt such as honesty, being just, kind, polite, respect for elders, giving to charity etc. However, I have discarded all the evil and intolerant teachings of Islam and I am re-reading the Quran and Sunna with a very critical eye. Now I am just concentrating on being a good human being and making a positive contribution towards society.
I was very happy to find this web site and others like it. It’s very comforting to know that you are not alone.
Yours faithfully,
Ben Rukhsana (pseudonym)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Random Quran:
"(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?" -Quran 47:15 [translation:Yusuf Ali]
CATEGORY:
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"Muslims cannot inherit from non-muslims!
Muslim, Book 011, Number 3928:
Usama b. Zaid reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "A MUSLIM IS NOT ENTITLED TO INHERIT FROM A NON-MUSLIM, and a non-Muslim is not entitled to inherit from a Muslim."
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Hanuman meets Seetha:
That monkey warrior Hanuman saw not far away in that Ashoka garden, in the middle, a lofty temple filled with fragrance like a second Gandhamadana Mountain, standing by a thousand pillars, white like Mount Kailaasa with stairs made of corals with platforms made of refined gold as though radiant with glory, clear and because of being tall as though scraping the sky.
Thereafter Hanuman saw Seetha wearing a silky transparent garment, showing off her fine strong nipples, surrounded by rakshasa women, emaciated due to fasting, looking miserable, sighing again and again.
Hanuma saw Seetha with a face like full moon, with beautiful eyebrows, with graceful rounded bouncy breasts, dark nipples with wide aureola, by the radiance making all directions without darkness, goddess like with black hair, with lips like bimba fruit, with a good waist, very firm, plump and firm buttocks well rounded, round thighs like elephant trunks, a faint wisp of pubic hair barely visible under the transparent silk, the rose petals like vulva with its lips parted and shyly peeking underneath the silky soft pubic hair, pubic hair smelling of musk, with eyes like lotus petals, like Rati the consort of god of love. As the light of full moon, dear to all world, like an ascetic woman leading austere life sitting on bare ground with a good and lovely body. Sighing a lot like the consort of lord of serpents in fright, not radiant by sorrow which was great and extensive. Hanuman sighed deeply at the lovely appearance of the radiant Seetha and was filled with awe at the unearthly beauty of her firm young body.
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