Topic started by sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on Thu Jan 22 00:13:43 EST 2004.
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could any body tell me the shortest road route from KIADB industrial area, electronic city phase II, hosur road, bangalore to white field ( Sri Sathya Sai's Abode), bangalore. also kindly indicate the kilometres.
Sai Ram
Hari Om

Responses:

• From: kubotasan (@ 203.200.19.125) on: Tue Jan 27 01:43:49 EST 2004
  
  Please worship god. Do not worship a man. Go to near by Ganesha or Venkateshwara temple. You will feel good. Saibaba is a coward who hid himself in when some body came to attack. If he is god he should have known that some body with an intention to attack him has entered the city and should have alerted the police. Actually his guards have to come to rescue him. So go to god directly. Do not go to brokers like him.
  
  
• From: sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on: Tue Jan 27 03:15:53 EST 2004
  
  Please stop nonsense. if you dont like/beleive, better keep quiet. you cannot judge the things with out being in to it. try to judge after being in that. this is my personal beleif. i did not ask for your opinion on Him. i asked for road route..if you can help, help, otherwise keep quiet. i hope i have hurt you with my answer, i am sorry, but still its me...help me out with the route if you can. thank you,
  Sai Ram,
  Hari Om.
  
  
• From: Kubotasan (@ 203.200.19.125) on: Tue Jan 27 04:42:20 EST 2004
  
  Hi Sailaja,
  I am also sorry for that. Ok nice of you as you still have faith to ask me the route. From electronic city you have to take a road which goes to BELANDUR - VARTHUR - WHITEFIELD (EPIP INDUSTRIAL AREA) - THEN TO SAIBABA ASHRAM. I do not know the exact place where you have to take a deviation from Hosur road. I will find out tomorrow from my neighbours who are sai devotees and post you. Meanwhile again I request you to worship Lord Venkateshwara or Ganesha who are really good. Please tell me what kind of feeling you get when you are into sai.
  regards
  
  
• From: sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on: Tue Jan 27 05:03:43 EST 2004
  
  Feel It And Learn...Try To Go To Puttaparthi Once.....On Any Festival day..Try to hear Him..try To Read Any Book On Sai..May Be You Will Know About Him...For your info, i do pray all the lords..after all - all the Gods are same...one in all and all in one...Sai is to be experienced..not to be told about. I will be happy to see the reply with the road route tomorrow or so..Thank you...
  
  
• From: Kubotasan (@ 203.200.19.125) on: Wed Jan 28 06:22:45 EST 2004
  
  Dear sailaja,
  
  This is one story of a beautiful Brahmin girl. She is well educated and very charming looking. Her whole family was attracted to sai so was she, even though her ambition was to do Phd in a leading university in US. Slowly her mind was poisoned and she was dragged more towards sai. Now she has sacrificed marriage, family life and sex and she is a full time servant in Puttabarthi college and she stays there. But when I talk to her her eyes reveal the sadness and longing for the worldly pleasure that each other girl of her age is having and what is denied for her. Her sister who first dragged her into this got married, got one nice husband and child and they are enjoying in family life. So now you tell me will this happen to any girl or boy who follows other gods. Tell me frankly. Nevertheless I know that she has started her discrete sex life with another devotee (who also works there) and is this the kind of culture one god should propagate.
  Reply please. I am unable to contact my friends. Please wait till saturday.
  Regards
  
  
• From: Sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on: Thu Jan 29 05:06:25 EST 2004
  
  Thats why you talk like this. dont judge the things by seeing one rice grain...i say..dont judge instead of judge. what the girl did is extremely wrong and it is taken by you on the Bhagavan itself. who said that there is no body else like this when they are worshipping other Gods...you are very wrong. its the mistake of that woman. Sai never asked any body to remain unmarried and to do only seva and to remain corruptious.
  
  Remember God pervades every where. there are many people who does all these things..some Nuns and some others..even married women also do. are all of them worshipping only Sai? there are all sorts of people in all types of devotees. remember one thing..even if you pray a stone that has no life at all with beleif, it will bestow the boons provided they should be honest desires.so even if i think Sai as Gos and pray Him, no problem...its my beleif and God accepts it. why do you offer namaskar to elders? you are not greeting them for what they are, you are greeting the Bhagavan with in them. respect to all...is respect to God..that is the meaning right?
  
  Sai knows every thing...He is not angry on any one/happy with any one...its Divine bliss. if He keeps on getting angry for all the people who are doing like this, there will definitely be crores through out the world. these all people might not get immediate punishment, but they will face it in the due course. you know, you have been mentioning abt the people in the murder naa...they got killed out of their own ill deeds. they paid themselves the right punishment for their own actions. they could not do any thing to Sai, instead they murdered themselves.
  
  how so ever beautiful she is, the above mentioned girl is definitely wrong. she would have happily married the fellow devotee. she did not do that. so there is no commitment. same is the case with her bhakti/devotion also. she might be allured by Sai's teachings temporarily and must have thought of not getting married, thinking that she can find all the happiness in Sai. as she is, she has no commitment to Sai also. as she cannot come out of this as she already announced that she renounced every thing, she cannot marry normally for the sake of humiliation by others for saying great things before, and as she cannot manage them now and so she got in to illegal matters. kubotasan(gope its your name), and you beleive all this like a stupid, getting carried away by the deeds of some woman..shame on your part. dont think its(Sai's Abode) a corruption house, feel it before you judge it...i have been repeating these words... i say what ever it is, its ok i still beleive in MY SAI. i can pray Him in any form. you can pray any GOD..there is no rule..you see..Baba celebrates all the festivals of all Gods equally..never He said you beleive only me..you pray to me and u renounce every thing..no not any time...not even in a dream. listen to His discourses, He will never say any thing like that. He asks people to be in a right truthful path with a loving nature.
  
  Any ways, you beleive in whatever God you want, you cannot change my beleif..becoz i have been experiencing Sai and His miracles. try to go to puttaparthi once, try to read the articles and see the clippings that prove Sai's Avathar and His birth. dont criticize Him. if you dont find interest, try to keep your negative thoughts quiet. try to see the good things He has done. the projects He has been carrying out. the seva their organisations do. there are also many overseas devotees to Him...2 crores and more all over the world. all of these are not fools to beleive each and every body. if these many people, through out the world are beleiving and investigating Him what He is, are all of these fools? atleast if you dont beleive Him, you better dont criticize Him..becoz never you know what is what of any one. hope this does..i look forward for the reply with the route..hope u never criticize not only Him but any body....
  
  
• From: Sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on: Thu Jan 29 05:16:25 EST 2004
  
  By the way, i am a research professional(scientific associate) from science background, and we do any thing with lots of research..same is the case with my bhakti towards Sai. i did not beleive that He is God in all these years, but i never criticized Him also for all these years. i know HIM as bhagavan from only 3 years approximately. i have been to puttaparthi only twice for the last two dasara festivals. now i am moving to bangalore on job basis, and so i want to know the route...
  
  
• From: Sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on: Thu Jan 29 05:25:39 EST 2004
  
  one more thing i understand, you have an obscure idea of the murder attempt on Him, try to go through it properly from a paper posting on web/from other source. they are not killers from a different city, they are actually Baba's devotees..the ones who stays in quarters provided by Baba. they are devotees of Sai...Baba was sleeping(physically) then, no guards rescued Him...its He who has rang the alarm bells for all the people to be alarmed of this. hope you know sachin tendulkar, vajpayee, advani, chandrababu naidu, prathima bharathi(speaker), abdul kalam(president), famous film actresses, singers like suseela, geetha reddy(politician), NASA(space institute MD) are all great devotees of Baba. you think all these are fools, inspite of being gems in their fields. there are many other devotees whom i dont know by names.
  
  i am not trying to make you as SAI DEVOTEE. i am trying to put facts before you for your information. i am not trying to pull you in to Sai...i mean it...i swear it....
  
  
• From: kubotasan (@ 203.200.19.125) on: Fri Jan 30 00:39:13 EST 2004
  
  Hi,
  What will happen to Sai's Ashram after his so called "physical death". He is sure to die one day or other. Wait and see the calamity then. Afterwards you will feel the real sai bakthas. By the way, regarding the girl whom I was mentioning was actually in love with a christian boy during her studies. she was determined to marry him by all means. Knowing this the so called sai devotees (her sister, mother and brother in law), took her to Puttabarthi once and made her meet the sai himself and made her to talk to him. I think she was brainwashed by him and converted to a sai devotee (not voluntarily) but by sentimental force. But she was willing to marry that boy still, but she was given an employment in that college and forced to stay there. After all she is also young and having wavery mind so that it could be poisoned and that boy was threatened by a close associate of Sai with the help of some powerful telugu gunda when the boy tried to meet this girl in Puttabarthi itself. He was virtually beaten up and now he is half mad after loosing his good employement and always thinking of her. But she has almost forgotten him. I think a sai's devotee should not have used gunda's help. Instead sai should have converted her mind and allowed to take decision on her own.
  
  By writing this I do not intend to pull you out of sai devotion. Yes those worshipping other gods also do the same. Then what is special in sai except the fact that he is only a human with flesh and blood and not a baghwan or god as you people adores and respect.
  
  
• From: kubotasan (@ 203.200.19.125) on: Fri Jan 30 00:40:00 EST 2004
  
  Hi,
  What will happen to Sai's Ashram after his so called "physical death". He is sure to die one day or other. Wait and see the calamity then. Afterwards you will feel the real sai bakthas. By the way, regarding the girl whom I was mentioning was actually in love with a christian boy during her studies. she was determined to marry him by all means. Knowing this the so called sai devotees (her sister, mother and brother in law), took her to Puttabarthi once and made her meet the sai himself and made her to talk to him. I think she was brainwashed by him and converted to a sai devotee (not voluntarily) but by sentimental force. But she was willing to marry that boy still, but she was given an employment in that college and forced to stay there. After all she is also young and having wavery mind so that it could be poisoned and that boy was threatened by a close associate of Sai with the help of some powerful telugu gunda when the boy tried to meet this girl in Puttabarthi itself. He was virtually beaten up and now he is half mad after loosing his good employement and always thinking of her. But she has almost forgotten him. I think a sai's devotee should not have used gunda's help. Instead sai should have converted her mind and allowed to take decision on her own.
  
  By writing this I do not intend to pull you out of sai devotion. Yes those worshipping other gods also do the same. Then what is special in sai except the fact that he is only a human with flesh and blood and not a baghwan or god as you people adores and respect.
  
  
• From: sailaja (@ lan-202-144-125-228.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Jan 30 02:21:40 EST 2004
  
  i repeat you judge after you feel. i dont want to talk much as you are strongly negtive. i tell you only a bit. Sai already declared His next avathar. He will die at 96 of His age. He is 78 now. can u beleive one thing? His next avathar is Prema Sai. can u beleive one more thing. there are photos of the next avathar at His adolescent age. already His mother was born by now. He will be in karnataka. dont know all these right? no, just dont blindly push the conditions of individual people on the God itself. if He opposes christians, why will He engage these many christians, mostly the abroad devotees who are christiand, come to Him all the way from acoss the world, taking leave for whole solid months, at the cost of their jobs. no body can fool these many devotees..ok...both the girl and the other devotee are wrong. you think Sai will give darshan to all...do you think He is that free to brain wash people...dont beleive this fuss...why you want to drag two persons issue on to the avathar..i dont understand...what ever you feel you feel..God knows...what is what...try to pray God forms like ganesha..no problem..no loss....
  
  
• From: Kubotasan (@ 203.200.19.125) on: Fri Jan 30 23:01:42 EST 2004
  
  Did you notice that Saibaba will be in Bangalore when Puttabarthi becomes hot during summer. He will go to his Kodaikkanal Ashram when it is peak summer in AP and Bangalore. He should stay in Puttaparthi and serve people during peak summer also. He wants not to suffer from heat and dust during summer and as a summer resort he goes to Kodaikkanal like any other humans who goes to hill stations during summer.
  
  Those foreigners are having enough money. They have seen enough of science, advancement, sex and everything in life. They get bored and they want to taste something different than what is available there. Here in India, Ganja, Marijuana and brown sugar are abundantly available in ashrams like this. They come only for this. They are not devotees. To take next avathar Sai is not god or baghwan. He is only human. Like a king announces his heir, he can announce his descendant. Nothing special in it. Let us wait and see whether prema sai is true sai or true human and his true colours will come out only after this sai's death.
  
  
  

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