Topic started by Truth Teller (@ 192.149.1.187) on Mon Nov 5 08:58:53 .
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"Wherever ye are, death will find you, even if ye are in Towers, built up strong and tall" (Quran 4:78) See all three translations of this verse in
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.078

There was an urban legend and stupid false romour that Nostradamus predicted the attack on world trade center towers. But the real person who predicted the attack was Mohammad! He said so in Quran.

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• From: God's slave (@ bl1051-3.me.iastate.edu) on: Sat May 4 22:25:18
  
  VIII/65: "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred stedfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence."
  
  The above verse is self explanatory. It clearly orders the Muslim to kill the non believers. It also clearly says that anyone who doesn't believe in Islam has no intelligence!
  
  VIII/67-69: "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise. Had it not been for the ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you on account of what ye took. Now enjoy what ye have won, as lawful and good, and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
  
  Here Allah is clearly instructing the Prophet that hold no prisoners, kill them all as they are criminals for not believing in Allah. The Prophet must do these deeds because Allah desires that the muslims enjoy the Houris and young boys in Jannat (Heaven). The above verses were revealed when the prophet had decided to spare the lives of the prisoners taken at Badr and hold them to ransom, against the wish of Umar who would have executed them for their past crime. The prophet took the verses as a reproof, and they are generally understood to mean that no mercy ought to have been given in that first battle. Such is the nature of the all merciful Allah !!
  
  
  
• From: God's slave (@ bl1051-3.me.iastate.edu) on: Sat May 4 22:27:43
  
  Instructions to Muslims about Unbelievers
  
  Koran 9:29
  Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.
  
  So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when follwers of other religions are humiliated
  
  
• From: God's slave (@ bl1051-3.me.iastate.edu) on: Sat May 4 22:28:00
  
  Koran 9:29
  Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.
  
  Here 'People of the Book' refers to Christians and Jews. The 'Religion Of Truth' refers to Islam. So in the above verse Prophet Mohammed is instructing Muslims to fight and torture Christians and Jews (who do not believe in Islamic version of God) until they pay tax to Muslims for their existence. Muslims are also strictly instructed to make the Christians and Jews feel 'subdued'. Allah is truly benign !!!
  
  
• From: God's slave (@ bl1051-3.me.iastate.edu) on: Sat May 4 22:28:51
  
  Koran 8:73
  The unbelievers give aid and comfort to each other. If you fail to do likewise, there will be disorder in the land and great corruption.
  
  The Great Mohammed divided the Arabian society in two tight compartments: Momins and Kafirs. The word momin means believer in Mohammed and Allah. In contrast a kafir is a non-believer. The momins did not have to be better men than the Kafirs in terms of character or consciousness. Momins had only to recite the Kalima (incantation)- "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet." By doing that the 'momins' become qualified to kill as many kafirs as they could or pleased, looting and burning their belongings and enslaving their women and children in the process. In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed once again is telling his followers to help each other in banning up against unbelievers (people of other religions)
  
  
• From: God's slave (@ bl1051-3.me.iastate.edu) on: Sat May 4 22:30:20
  
  Koran 70:39
  We have created the unbelievers out of base matters.
  
  So here Prophet Mohammed claims that all the people of other religions are basically useless and evil because they are made up of base matters. But the same people become Allah's favourite and become capable of earning Houris and young boys when they convert to Islam.
  
  
• From: God's slave (@ bl1051-3.me.iastate.edu) on: Sat May 4 22:30:36
  
  Koran 2:39
  Those who reject faith shall be the companions of the Fire.
  
  Koran 2:89-90
  The curse of Allah is on the unbelievers... humiliating is the punishment.
  
  Koran 13:13
  ..He hurls his thunderbolts at whom he pleases Yet the unbelievers wrangle about Allah..
  
  Koran 58:5
  Those who resist Allah and his messenger will be humbled to dust.
  
  Koran 70:15-16
  The fire of Hell will pluck out his being right to the skull..
  
  Koran 5:10
  As for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are the heirs of Hell.
  
  The summary of the above six verses is that a person follwing any religion other than Islam, is automatically assigned to Hell. His good thoughts, good actions or peity are of no value until and unless he follows Islam. So if in this life, a person does not follow Islam and does not believe in Islamic scripture, Allah will store Hell-Fire, Hot water, Molten brass, thunderbolts and other humiliating punishments in the life hereafter for him.
  
  
• From: M.S. Zul (@ j41.jrc32.jaring.my) on: Wed Jun 19 13:23:17
  
  you dont quote the complete sentences. you've been unfair to yourself. you know alot about the content of Quran, but prepare not to see the truth in it. lets look it as a whole not a small portion.
  
  pls review if you are a truth seeker. don't scare yourself with negative screening before judging.
  
  
• From: Naseer (@ ) on: Sun Jan 19 04:24:16
  
  i dont think in quran its written like this,because allah and prophet mohammed will never say to kill innocents in the other community.they have told to love everyone .
  
  
• From: kalyan (@ netcache.spectranet.com) on: Mon Jan 20 01:41:10
  
  the truthteller is an idiot. now, they actually PLANNED the attacks, and they say that Mohammed FORESAW the attacks, and expect that one billion muslims worldwide would believe them. it is rubbish. a "tower", can even be the tower in Mecca, u can understand that. just wait till the US bombs the tower in Mecca, and u can gleefully tell that "even this was foreseen by Mohammed" and quote the same verse again from quran,in this same forumhub thread.
  This Truth Teller seems to be insane. no hub visitors need to waste their time with him.
  
  
• From: Surya (@ cache-ntc-aa07.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Mar 20 22:45:25
  
  Ofcourse The Koran knew that something like 9/11 was giong to happen. They way their religion was build, something like this was bound to happen.
  
  

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