Does carnatic music need "new" instruments?
Topic started by Subbiah on Thu Oct 21 17:14:24 .
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Hello guys, for so many years, Carnatic music has made a big time impact on India, from the likes of Thyagarajan, and his co-musicians, the traditional instruments were a vocalist/s, veena, tanpura, ghatam, moorsing, mridangam, and so on. And for so many years, the traditional Carnatic instruments were kept and used as in the old days, BUT I am truly disappointed to see "new" instruments come in, like that of Kadri Gopalnath's saxophone. I honestly and fully disagree with instruments like the saxophone to "change" the sound of the old relaxing Carnatic music, and I'm sure others will agree or disagree, what are your responses?
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- From: Rama (@ adsl-67-125-87-56.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
on: Thu Jun 19 05:46:20 EDT 2003
IN response to the original post I am for bringing new instruments. It keeps from the music from becoming stagnant and allows it to evolve. It is also the way for more modern performers to make their mark as the ones who brought the instruments into the music.
- From: Trishala (@ palo5.pacific.net.sg)
on: Fri Jul 25 22:58:47
Can I please have Music Academy, Chennai's e-mail id? Thanks
- From: meena (@ user-1121crr.dsl.mindspring.com)
on: Sat Jul 26 01:31:25 EDT 2003
Trishala,
musicacademy@vsnl.com
website:
http://www.musicacademymadras.org/
- From: Nick (@ mridangam.demon.co.uk)
on: Sat Jul 26 18:58:05 EDT 2003
Music Academy...
According to their home page they are "not averse to ultimate dissimulation.". Oh Dear.
- From: Idiappam (@ cache139.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Sun Jul 27 07:17:08 EDT 2003
//"not averse to ultimate dissimulation.".//
What do they mean by that?
Nick, how could Urumi melam be used in carnatics?
- From: Ramadas (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch)
on: Sun Jul 27 09:05:03 EDT 2003
Urumi Melam is already used in Carnatic, although not much popular. I have heard once a person bringing out a popular krithi in AanandaBairavi using "Idaikka" a percussion instrument similiar to Urumi MeLam. If it is possible in Idaikka it will be more possible using uRumi meLam.
- From: Nick (@ mridangam.demon.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 27 18:51:57 EDT 2003
>> What do they mean by that? <<
The very opposite of the true meaning of the word, I suspect. That is the only way I can make sense of it. But who on earth wrote this rubbish and what on earth were they thinking?
- From: Nick (@ mridangam.demon.co.uk)
on: Sun Jul 27 18:53:09 EDT 2003
My ignorance exposed!-) I do not know urumi melam.
- From: prabhu (@ nat-64-26-196-72.i2.com)
on: Mon Jul 28 18:35:34 EDT 2003
Clairnet has been used for the past 150 years or so with some retuning/modifications. Also, since there are not a complete range of keys and since fingers have to be used on some keys, I am assuming it may be easier than the saxophone.
I have heard that Nagaswaram players use a "cross fingering" technique which has also be adapted on the flute. Can some one throw some light on this?
I guess this technique is not applicable to Sax/Clairnet.
Jalatarangam may be close to Vibraphones or Gender (balinese). How does one get the gamakams on Jalatarangam?
Any one (on the forum) experimented Carnatic on alto-sax? Any modifications to the instrument that you have tried?...thanks
- From: Ramadas (@ dclient80-218-16-207.hispeed.ch)
on: Tue Jul 29 01:02:26 EDT 2003
>>How does one get the gamakams on Jalatarangam?>>
By tapping on intermediate cups with speed, I suppose. I am not a Jalatarangam artiste, but listen to one. Ananyampatti S. Ganeshan.
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/00011F
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